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Get ready for the MLB Draft to take another Holliday.

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8. Cubs: Seth Hernandez, RHP, Corona HS (Calif.)
The Vanderbilt recruit is the best prep arm in the class and gives high school powerhouse Corona HS two potential first-rounders. The 6-foot-4 Hernandez has three quality pitches with a smooth and clean delivery, showing off a mid-90s fastball, a very good changeup and good feel to spin a breaking ball.

 

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Kiley has Jace LaViolette ahead of Ethan Holliday:

50 FV tier
1. Jace LaViolette (21.6), CF, Texas A&M

45+ FV tier
2. Ethan Holliday (18.3), 3B, Stillwater (Oklahoma) HS, Oklahoma State commit
3. Cam Cannarella (21.8), CF, Clemson

45 FV tier

4. Devin Taylor (21.5), LF, Indiana
5. Tyler Bremner (21.2), RHP, UC Santa Barbara
6. Jamie Arnold (21.2), LHP, Florida State
7. Eli Willits (17.6), SS, Fort Cobb-Broxton (Oklahoma) HS, Oklahoma commit
8. Xavier Neyens (18.7), 3B, Mount Vernon (Washington) HS, Oregon State commit
9. Seth Hernandez (19.0), RHP, Corona (California) HS, Vanderbilt commit

40+ FV tier

10. Wehiwa Aloy (21.4), SS, Arkansas
11. Kade Anderson (21.0), LHP, LSU
12. Coy James (18.3), SS, Davie County (North Carolina) HS, Ole Miss commit

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41 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

Better, worse, good, bad…The only truth is they’ll never quench the thirst for business friendly profit and production in our great, free so-ciety 

For the love of god Tom, this is exactly why people give you horsefeathers.

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On 7/26/2024 at 8:33 AM, CubinNY said:

As it stands today, where does the class rank compared to 23 and 24? In the middle?

personally i think you all but have to say 'worse' just simply because we have so much more information now and that Shaw, Wiggins, Rosario, Hope all look like great picks and Sanders & Melendez have also flashed, but there's so much unknown with all these '24 guys until they face real competition

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17. Chicago Cubs

Cameron Appenzeller, LHP — Glenwood
HOMETOWN: Springfield, Illinois
HEIGHT: 6-5
WEIGHT: 185
BAT/THROW: L-L

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What Appenzeller lacks in present stuff he more than makes up for in terms of projection. This is as good as it gets from an upside perspective. A tall, lean left-hander, Appenzeller lives in low-90s but projects to tick into the mid 90s with his long, wiry frame. He’s already grabbed 94 but is yet to make his anticipated significant velocity jump. It’s a controlled delivery featuring very little effort. The arm action works well with looseness and fluid athleticism, some funk and angles.

Appenzeller throws an above-average low-80s slider that flashes ‘plus’ upside with big two-plane tilt. Appenzeller shows a real understanding for shaping the baseball with a willingness to sweep the ball away from left-handed bats and bury breakers onto the back-foot of righties. The changeup has taken major strides over the last several months and is routinely average with more ceiling coming. It’s a low-to-mid 80s off-speed weapon with strong action into the left-handed batters box.

Appenzeller is one of the more premium arms in the class with strikes, projection, three pitches and a good breaker. A two-sport guy, Appenzeller is also a talented basketball player. Tons to like here with even more to dream on.

 

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17. Cubs — Aiva Arquette, SS, Oregon State

Arquette is the top transfer in college baseball this year and will play with Oregon State this spring after a pair of strong seasons with Washington, including a 12-homer campaign that featured a .325/.384/.574 line this spring. He was an everyday second baseman during the spring with Washington but handled himself nicely at shortstop in the Cape Cod League while having exciting power projection thanks to a 6-foot-5, 220-pound frame.

 

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At this time last year, the 2024 MLB draft crop looked like a down class, but things improved greatly during the spring with a solid group of quality prospects landing in my top 100 list after signing. The 2025 crop looks a good bit weaker than the 2024 crop did at the same stage (my No. 1 prospect is comparable to a former teammate that went 12th overall in the 2024 draft), but it's smart to leave room for the 2025 spring to prove that this will also be at least an average draft class.

 

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13 hours ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

 

Law said this year's prospects were down too, especially at the top of the draft. Time to find some value picks Jed and Co.

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3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Holliday at 9. I thought he was supposed to be better than his brother 

It's early days, but he didn't blow away the competition last season, and there's bound to be prospect fatigue with a guy who's been on teams' radars since he entered high school.

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20 hours ago, CubinNY said:

Holliday at 9. I thought he was supposed to be better than his brother 

Longenhagen wrote up why he had Holliday lower: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/updating-the-2025-draft-rankings/

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I’m a little apprehensive about, and therefore lower on, Stillwater High School (OK) shortstop Ethan Holliday. To run through some positives, Holliday is incredibly physical and strong, and he’s a big time rotator, absolutely electric for a guy his size; his swing has huge finish in the dirt behind him and natural lift toward the oppo gap. He has plus raw power right now and still has room for strength on his gigantic frame. He’s going to have special power.

But there are some alarming, pause-giving indicators here. Per Synergy, Holliday hit .246/.446/.346 combined in 2023 and 2024 against his most talented peers. I can guess what you’re thinking, and I agree — that’s surprisingly low. Holliday is very often late getting to pitches on the outer third of the zone. His swing is super long and makes it tough for him to pull fastballs at all, which is a red flag at this stage (see: Jones, Druw). The amount of whiffing, combined with the lack of actual in-game power production, means I’m not comfortable windmill slamming Holliday as a top two player in this class.

Because most teams care so much about how hitters perform against the cream-of-the-crop pitchers from their grad class, it’s going to be tough for Holliday to make these concerns go away when he’s facing guys who sit 83-85 mph during spring varsity play. Holliday’s special power and upside justify a high pick, but he isn’t a no-doubt star. The team that drafts him should have some idea of how they might help him be in better position to cover the up-and-away quadrant of the zone and, in general, pull fastballs with power.

Also a good time to remember that while BA has multiple contributors and Pipeline has both Callis and Mayo, The Athletic (Law), ESPN (McDaniel) and Fangraphs each only have 1 person doing draft work so they are more likely to have individual outlier rankings published.

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Keith Law's ranking top 30 draft prospects

1. Liam Doyle (LHP)

2. Ethan Holliday (SS/3B)

3. Aiva Arquette (SS)

4. Jamie Arnold (LHP)

5. Kayson Cunningham (SS)

Best name: Ike Irish (C - Auburn), he's a legend there. But he's a bat first catcher. 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6165485/2025/03/04/mlb-draft-2025-rankings-prospects-keith-law-liam-doyle-ethan-holliday/

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8 hours ago, CubinNY said:

Keith Law's ranking top 30 draft prospects

1. Liam Doyle (LHP)

2. Ethan Holliday (SS/3B)

3. Aiva Arquette (SS)

4. Jamie Arnold (LHP)

5. Kayson Cunningham (SS)

Best name: Ike Irish (C - Auburn), he's a legend there. But he's a bat first catcher. 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6165485/2025/03/04/mlb-draft-2025-rankings-prospects-keith-law-liam-doyle-ethan-holliday/

Dang, he knocked Bremner all the way down to 13 over 2 bad starts.

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