Pirates (Jones, 2-4, 2.68 ERA) vs. Cubs (Steele, 0-0, 4.73 ERA) 6:40 CDT

[Irrelevant Dude]

44 minutes ago, Andy said:

That's something like the 4th time Seiya has flat out whiffed a play in RF in the last few months of games he's played, which is annoying.

I have also seen several instances of him taking odd routes on fairly routine balls, like he isn't getting a good read on them and has to adjust at the last second.

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I have also seen several instances of him taking odd routes on fairly routine balls, like he isn't getting a good read on them and has to adjust at the last second.

Agreed. He is not good defensively and he should have caught that ball. After that I am not sure what happens. But I would have liked to have found out. 

[profisme]

18 hours ago, Stratos said:

I'd rather they play the best player, whoever that is, rather than the most exciting player.  I think winning is the most exciting thing anyways.

I agree the best player should be playing.  But being the best and being the most exciting aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

[CubinNY]

let's get a thread up today so we can whine about the game.

What a juxtaposition 

[morrisjon]

13 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

Does he throw out the runner at home if he catches the ball? I am not sure he does. The bigger non play to me was the perfect double play ball that wasn’t turned in the first inning. That has to be a double play. Instead the next guy homers. 

I only watched the condensed game but I heard the Pirates announcer say that the runner was half way since the ball was not hit very deep. My understanding is that he was not on the base to tag. 

That throw by Madrigal in the first was brutal. I wonder how many reps Mastrobuoni and Madrigal get together turning double plays.

Are there defensive metrics that takes into account the leverage of the situation? It might just be selective memory but it really feels like Suzuki and also Swanson make mistakes in the field at the most inopportune time. I'd be curious if there was a 'defensive clutchyness' type stat.