Bears week 6: Commanders on Thursday night

[UMFan83]

The Bears desperately need a WR.

 

The Panthers desperately need salary relief.

 

Sounds good to me.

 

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Smoke....fire?

 

https://twitter.com/jaylonlockson/status/1579542342419484672?s=46&t=Zwog8y5Q7Yd2mq-8fsWvLQ

 

Clearly made up. His other tweets are laughing at others for falling for it lol

[UMFan83]

JT O'Sullivan did a breakdown on Fields performance yesterday but its behind a paywall now:

 

 

Sucks because I loved watching these, but its good enough content that he deserves to make money from it.

 

He did tweet this out though:

 

 

Here's another one. Oh man this is beautiful watching Fields go through his progressions and finding the open guy. Amazing what the man can do with just a little bit of protection.

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

The Bears desperately need a WR.

 

The Panthers desperately need salary relief.

 

Sounds good to me.

 

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Smoke....fire?

 

https://twitter.com/jaylonlockson/status/1579542342419484672?s=46&t=Zwog8y5Q7Yd2mq-8fsWvLQ

 

Clearly made up. His other tweets are laughing at others for falling for it lol

My phone gave me that twitter notification and of course I lost my mind

 

Bastard!

[UMFan83]

Also here's Trent Dilfer's appearance today on The Score:

 

[UMFan83]

Here's another play breakdown, showing a play where the line was hilariously inept forcing Fields to scramble for a 1st on 4th down.

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Here's another play breakdown, showing a play where the line was hilariously inept forcing Fields to scramble for a 1st on 4th down.

 

Did he really say a 54 yard field goal is an 80% proposition?

 

Eta

He said high 80’s, does he not realize you snap the ball backwards on a fg attempt?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Here's another play breakdown, showing a play where the line was hilariously inept forcing Fields to scramble for a 1st on 4th down.

 

Did he really say a 54 yard field goal is an 80% proposition?

 

Eta

He said high 80’s, does he not realize you snap the ball backwards on a fg attempt?

I thought he said 34 yard fg, but that would also be wrong

[WrigleyField 22]

Thought this was interesting.

 

Bears terrible at 1st down passes and actually okay on 3/4th.

 

You'd think a team with bad pass pro and a strong run game would be opposite of that, but maybe the samples are still small

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Here's another play breakdown, showing a play where the line was hilariously inept forcing Fields to scramble for a 1st on 4th down.

 

Did he really say a 54 yard field goal is an 80% proposition?

 

Eta

He said high 80’s, does he not realize you snap the ball backwards on a fg attempt?

I thought he said 34 yard fg, but that would also be wrong

 

He was talking about going for it on 4th and 4 vs attempting the FG. When the ball is on the 36 that is a ~53 yard attempt, and in no way a high 80s percentage kick.

[gflore34]

JT O'Sullivan did a breakdown on Fields performance yesterday but its behind a paywall now:

 

 

Sucks because I loved watching these, but its good enough content that he deserves to make money from it.

 

He did tweet this out though:

 

 

Here's another one. Oh man this is beautiful watching Fields go through his progressions and finding the open guy. Amazing what the man can do with just a little bit of protection.

 

 

With my Post Mitch Traumatic Stress Disorder (PMTSD) it's hard for me to get my hopes up, are we now seeing some things from Justin that we never saw from Mitch? I seem to recall flashes from Mitch as well but, maybe those flashes were of the not missing a wide-open deep throw type.

[BigSlick]

JT absolutely clowning on Mustipher is hilarious. On that 4th down play, somehow, the Center, the Left Guard and the Left Tackle *all* miss their assignments, almost impossible to do!

[gflore34]

JT absolutely clowning on Mustipher is hilarious. On that 4th down play, somehow, the Center, the Left Guard and the Left Tackle *all* miss their assignments, almost impossible to do!

 

Appears to me the guard and tackle are very aware Mustipher is overmatched and in trying to aid or compensate for him miss their assignments.

 

Also, just WTF is Mustipher doing? Playing tag? Maybe some who knows line play can explain.

[minnesotacubsfan]

JT absolutely clowning on Mustipher is hilarious. On that 4th down play, somehow, the Center, the Left Guard and the Left Tackle *all* miss their assignments, almost impossible to do!

 

Appears to me the guard and tackle are very aware Mustipher is overmatched and in trying to aid or compensate for him miss their assignments.

 

Also, just WTF is Mustipher doing? Playing tag? Maybe some who knows line play can explain.

 

Sure, I played line. imho Mustipher is doing everything he can do, but he also might just be the worst OL in the history of the nfl.

[Soul]

With my Post Mitch Traumatic Stress Disorder (PMTSD) it's hard for me to get my hopes up, are we now seeing some things from Justin that we never saw from Mitch? I seem to recall flashes from Mitch as well but, maybe those flashes were of the not missing a wide-open deep throw type.

 

I say no to that right now.

 

Mitch had some flashes of brilliance too. Some great throws, some fantastic scrambles. Easy to forget, his 2nd season was his best. 24TD/12INT, the team went 12-4 and he was a PB selection. Then in year 3 he regressed, the team was bad in no small measure because he was mediocre. That continued into 2020 and he was done.

 

I need to see more from Fields to say he's progressed beyond Mitch, as disappointing as Mitch was.

[UMFan83]

Week 5 PFF grades:

 

 

Interesting about Fields, seems like a big chunk of his grade was due to running and his passing was mediocre.

 

Defense:

 

 

Career game for the much maligned Vildor

 

Also apparently Braxton Jones is PFF's highest rated rookie tackle after week 5.

[raw]

Lot of stuff in this thread already, but don't know if I saw anyone mention that N'Keal Harry has been activated and is eligible to play Thursday night.

 

I think this is a good chance for some good ol competition at the WR spots from now until the end of the season.

 

Mooney obviously is the mainstay. Velus isn't going anywhere for a few years. But is he going to be a #2 type? A #3? Ideally, he'd be the #4 for next year because they added 2 better options than him to go along with Mooney, but I'd love for him to play himself into a larger role the rest of the year, at least.

 

After that, everyone else has an out in their contract after this year. Can Pringle come back and be a reliable option? The bar is pretty low there, though I'm not sure what he could do to get another contract after this year.

 

Harry and St. Brown I feel are in a competition to potentially be re-signed as the 4th/5th WR. Both are big bodied, good blockers, not big separators, but have some value in giving Fields an occasional big target. St. Brown has familiarity in the scheme. Harry has former 1st round pedigree.

 

Then you have Smith-Marsette and Pettis. Pettis is a potential roster crunch cut when Harry and Jones Jr are hopefully relegating him to 7th WR duties once everyone is 100% healthy. ISM despite the bonehead play Sunday, I'm not giving up on. He has some potential as an end of depth chart WR, who can return kicks. If he shows anything, wouldn't mind giving him a shot to compete with UDFA types as WR6 next year.

 

But my ideal WR corps for next year:

FA/trade for WR

Mooney

Rookie top 60 pick

Jones Jr

Harry/St Brown

ISM/Webster/Coulter/late draft pick

[UMFan83]

I've been obsessed with all these different breakdown videos. Here's a couple from Brian Baldinger

 

 

[raw]

IDK if they do these for every young QB (no need to do them for Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc), but the breakdowns always make me feel better about what I actually saw on the field. Like I know I want to say Fields is making progress, but they kinda of articulate it much better than I could. I know at least O'Sullivan does for other young QBs. But he, Dilfer, and Baldy are all really big Fields fans in general so may be a little bias (only showing the good). But I'll effing take it!

[UMFan83]

IDK if they do these for every young QB (no need to do them for Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc), but the breakdowns always make me feel better about what I actually saw on the field. Like I know I want to say Fields is making progress, but they kinda of articulate it much better than I could. I know at least O'Sullivan does for other young QBs. But he, Dilfer, and Baldy are all really big Fields fans in general so may be a little bias (only showing the good). But I'll effing take it!

 

Yeah...I don't have the football acumen that you do (based on your years of posts), so I need it to tell me things rather than confirm. I understand there's definitely bias there and potential misleading conclusions drawn by these videos, but most of the breakdowns make a ton of sense in terms of how they explain the defense, explain the routes, explain the blocking, etc that I find them very valuable and helpful in increasing my own acumen.

[raw]

IDK if they do these for every young QB (no need to do them for Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc), but the breakdowns always make me feel better about what I actually saw on the field. Like I know I want to say Fields is making progress, but they kinda of articulate it much better than I could. I know at least O'Sullivan does for other young QBs. But he, Dilfer, and Baldy are all really big Fields fans in general so may be a little bias (only showing the good). But I'll effing take it!

 

Yeah...I don't have the football acumen that you do (based on your years of posts), so I need it to tell me things rather than confirm. I understand there's definitely bias there and potential misleading conclusions drawn by these videos, but most of the breakdowns make a ton of sense in terms of how they explain the defense, explain the routes, explain the blocking, etc that I find them very valuable and helpful in increasing my own acumen.

 

Thanks. I coached for years and I don't think many people in general know much about QB play. It's just really hard to explain and even teach at a youth level, so I can't imagine on a professional level when the athletes are so much better. And I frankly didn't really work with the QBs much at all.

[minnesotacubsfan]

all I can say is if Fields starts to combine those timely check downs to his deep throws, I think we'll all be very happy fans

[WrigleyField 22]

I'll be a pleased fan. I won't be a happy fan until Poles gives him an actual supporting cast worthy of a good team.

[David]

in that baldy video, possibly my favorite part was when he slid over within the pocket in response to the pressure (rather than actually bailing running)

[David]

 

 

 

if you're only gonna watch one of these, go with the youtube clip on the bottom.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

 

 

if you're only gonna watch one of these, go with the youtube clip on the bottom.

It's like He has the talent to be Barry Sanders-like, QB version. The dude is tough to get, and if he can consistently use that illusiveness in the pocket, progress through check downs, or run, well that would be fun to watch