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Can't believe people think they should've gone for the FG last drive. It was 4th and inches. You should expect to get that every time. It was the best drive of the game. Seize that momentum. Take a chance for a TD when you don't know if you'll get another chance.

 

Don't blame Nagy for going for it. Blame him for having a team that constantly shoots itself in the foot.

 

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Bears are losing a game by 3 scores where they've held Henry to 2ypc and the QB to 5 complete passes.

 

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And the game ends with a Peanut Punch against the Bears
In the same place he had 4 of them several years ago

 

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Tough 1-score loss in a close hard fought game.

 

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92 points in the 4th quarter, 7 in the 3rd this year.

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.
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There was a Calvin and Hobbes comic I loved when I was a kid where Calvin says something about how the doubters think he can't do some insane thing he's about to do, then he fails and as he's on the ground he says "sometimes the doubters are right." And Hobbes says "we usually are."

 

I can't find it though :(

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Remember when the Bears started great and we were like “we’ll see who they really are after this stretch against the Rams, Titans, etc?”

 

Well we know who they are now

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

 

You know what the next step is. Bears fandom just isn't ready to admit it yet. Clean house and rebuild from scratch.

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

 

You know what the next step is. Bears fandom just isn't ready to admit it yet. Clean house and rebuild from scratch.

Does that include the McCaskeys?

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

I know you are frustrated, this isn't entirely accurate.

 

1) to compare Nagy with Reid is....not reassuring. Reid's been in the league for decades and failed multiple times before he won the SB. Nagy COULD do that too, but if he follows Reid's trajectory, it won't be with us

 

2) Pace didn't stabilize the franchise with Fox, Fox was not Paces hire iirc

 

3) Paces drafts have been a little here, a miss there.

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

 

You know what the next step is. Bears fandom just isn't ready to admit it yet. Clean house and rebuild from scratch.

 

They can't even do that because of all the money owed to players. Mack, Quinn, Goldman, Trevathan, Jackson, Foles, and Whitehair all have untradeable, uncuttable contracts. So, when you have that much money tied up....you're basically forced to do a mini rebuild and best and hope to compete. I'd be comfortable if cleaning house was the next step. That's Jacksonville. I'd kill to be Jacksonville right now. Next step is to again try to find a QB, fix the OL, and do so super quick while the defense is still competent; with or without a new coach and/or GM.

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

I know you are frustrated, this isn't entirely accurate.

 

1) to compare Nagy with Reid is....not reassuring. Reid's been in the league for decades and failed multiple times before he won the SB. Nagy COULD do that too, but if he follows Reid's trajectory, it won't be with us

 

2) Pace didn't stabilize the franchise with Fox, Fox was not Paces hire iirc

 

3) Paces drafts have been a little here, a miss there.

 

I wasn't comparing Nagy to Reid, it was moreso to Pederson. Fox was Pace's hire. Might not have been his choice only, but it was his hire and we can't just throw out those 3 years.

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

I know you are frustrated, this isn't entirely accurate.

 

1) to compare Nagy with Reid is....not reassuring. Reid's been in the league for decades and failed multiple times before he won the SB. Nagy COULD do that too, but if he follows Reid's trajectory, it won't be with us

 

2) Pace didn't stabilize the franchise with Fox, Fox was not Paces hire iirc

 

3) Paces drafts have been a little here, a miss there.

 

I wasn't comparing Nagy to Reid, it was moreso to Pederson. Fox was Pace's hire. Might not have been his choice only, but it was his hire and we can't just throw out those 3 years.

I've been under the impression that Pace was forced to hire Fox from McCaskey or Phillips, was that not true?

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Pace's problem, besides not being able to identify QB talent, is that he has no sense of value. He sees the shiny thing, he pays whatever it takes to get it, then he runs out of resources for the rest of the roster. Then we all talk about how great the great parts of the roster are, it's a shame they're brought down by the bad parts. But that's always going to happen when you operate the way he does in a league where your cap space and draft capital are limited but you have no sense of their value.
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I've been under the impression that Pace was forced to hire Fox from McCaskey or Phillips, was that not true?

I think Accorsi was helping Pace with the search for Head Coach. Once Fox became available (remember he was fired after a playoff run), there was likely a lot of pressure and "don't overthink it" from Accorsi.

 

But that story has become very distorted over the years, IMO. At the time it was mainly speculated, but I don't think any reporter ever had an unnamed source or anything to back that up.

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I think the worst part of this is that people are saying on Twitter that "this is the worst offensive performance in years". But it's really not. It's a typical offensive performance. Hell, they were worse just 2 games ago against the Rams. Performances like this have happened time and again. Under Nagy, under Fox, under Trestman, under Lovie, under Jauron, Wannstedt, Ditka, every coach ever. Why in 2020 are the Bears still the only team that hasn't ever figured out the offensive side of the ball? Can blow it up and start all over, but is it even going to matter? The Bears did everything right. Hired a young, upstart GM that moved his way up from a scout to player personnel director in a championship organization. He stabilized a disaster with a professional hire in John Fox. He didn't sit back and hope to luck into a QB, he got his guy at QB, got him what should have been the perfect coach. A young coach from a very successful coaching tree who had success with QBs, even called some offensive plays for a bit. A coach that followed in the same exact footsteps of the previous Andy Reid coaching tree hire, who would go on to win a Superbowl for a championship starved franchise. I hate that i don't know what the next step would even be. And I hate it more that it's very possible that step doesn't work either.

 

You know what the next step is. Bears fandom just isn't ready to admit it yet. Clean house and rebuild from scratch.

Bears fandom has wanted to clean house and rebuild every year for 30 years.

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