Chicago Bears offseason

[WrigleyField 22]

If not Shurmur, hitting up the old Carolina offensive coaching staff might not be a bad idea, if Rivera doesn't bring them over to WAS.

 

Obviously having McCaffrey helps, but theyve been pretty good running the ball the past several years and have a lot of NFL experience on that staff.

 

The tough thing about getting a highly regarded OC is that it doesnt seem like Nagy is going to relinquish playcalling duties, based on what was said in the press conference today. That has to knock the desirability of the job down a peg.

I don't think those guys are going to be too highly regarded. They actually seem attainable, whether it's Turner and his assistants or just poaching a few assistants. Their OL/run coordinator and TE coach have like 50+ years experience, and aren't going to be getting prime positions if not brought over with Chico.

 

Honestly they could probably do worse than hitting up the WAS and CLE staffs too. So they should be able to do decent with FA coach hires and not be as reliant on rejected interview requests from current staffs.

[Derwood]

So the Bears announced the position coach firings AFTER the press conference was over? Wow, brave

 

And so glad that they fired an Offensive Coordinator who doesn't call plays, a TE coach with no TE's, and an O-Line coach with an embarrassing assemblage of talent

[minnesotacubsfan]

So the Bears announced the position coach firings AFTER the press conference was over? Wow, brave

 

And so glad that they fired an Offensive Coordinator who doesn't call plays, a TE coach with no TE's, and an O-Line coach with an embarrassing assemblage of talent

 

They have TE talent, and they’ve invested in the pos the past few years. O-line too via draft picks

[raw]

So the Bears announced the position coach firings AFTER the press conference was over? Wow, brave

 

And so glad that they fired an Offensive Coordinator who doesn't call plays, a TE coach with no TE's, and an O-Line coach with an embarrassing assemblage of talent

 

Eh. Same talent on the OL as last year. Two probowlers in 2018 and a promising young player. Every single player on the OL played much worse this year. Also, Helfrich and Hiestand were "in charge" of the run game. They did nothing to improve an already mediocre run game. Don't understand complaining about this. You rather they bring everyone back and act like everything was fine?

[Derwood]

So the Bears announced the position coach firings AFTER the press conference was over? Wow, brave

 

And so glad that they fired an Offensive Coordinator who doesn't call plays, a TE coach with no TE's, and an O-Line coach with an embarrassing assemblage of talent

 

Eh. Same talent on the OL as last year. Two probowlers in 2018 and a promising young player. Every single player on the OL played much worse this year. Also, Helfrich and Hiestand were "in charge" of the run game. They did nothing to improve an already mediocre run game. Don't understand complaining about this. You rather they bring everyone back and act like everything was fine?

 

Bring them back? Nah. But these feel like "we need to fire somebody but not the people we need to" firings

[Derwood]

So the Bears announced the position coach firings AFTER the press conference was over? Wow, brave

 

And so glad that they fired an Offensive Coordinator who doesn't call plays, a TE coach with no TE's, and an O-Line coach with an embarrassing assemblage of talent

 

They have TE talent, and they’ve invested in the pos the past few years. O-line too via draft picks

 

57 total targets for TE's this season. So....fire the TE coach...for reasons? Seems like a token firing

[WrigleyField 22]

Come on, there's no benefit to anyone to let those firings leak before the PC. Who gives a damn.

[Derwood]

Come on, there's no benefit to anyone to let those firings leak before the PC. Who gives a damn.

 

You don't think they should field questions about those firings?

[UMFan83]

Come on, there's no benefit to anyone to let those firings leak before the PC. Who gives a damn.

 

You don't think they should field questions about those firings?

 

Yeah..not a huge deal but it doesn't really help the perception that Pace avoids having to answer to the media. I didn't watch the press conference today but they were saying it ended abruptly and they ended further questions. And this after not speaking to the media for the entire season, and only doing so today because the NFL mandates it.

[WrigleyField 22]

Come on, there's no benefit to anyone to let those firings leak before the PC. Who gives a damn.

 

You don't think they should field questions about those firings?

Nah.

[UK]

If KC doesn't lose their OC to a HC job, I would inquire about their current QB coach Kafka.

[raw]

So the Bears announced the position coach firings AFTER the press conference was over? Wow, brave

 

And so glad that they fired an Offensive Coordinator who doesn't call plays, a TE coach with no TE's, and an O-Line coach with an embarrassing assemblage of talent

 

Eh. Same talent on the OL as last year. Two probowlers in 2018 and a promising young player. Every single player on the OL played much worse this year. Also, Helfrich and Hiestand were "in charge" of the run game. They did nothing to improve an already mediocre run game. Don't understand complaining about this. You rather they bring everyone back and act like everything was fine?

 

Bring them back? Nah. But these feel like "we need to fire somebody but not the people we need to" firings

 

I mean they were logical firings. These were the guys in charge of getting the run game together. They did not, in 2 years. They got away with it in 2018 because the team won 12 games. Obviously, the QB needs to go, which probably means the guy who drafted him ultimately needs to go. But as bad as this season was, Nagy still won 20 games in 2 years, and the Bears still finished better than 18 of the 32 teams. There's really not anybody that "needs" to be fired right now in a larger scale position. All bets are off in 2020 though.

[minnesotacubsfan]

What about Kitchens for OC?

 

Running backs coach

Offensive coord in the nfl experience

 

 

Would nagy split the run game/pass game responsibilities? Would Kitchens take the job?

[WrigleyField 22]

What about Kitchens for OC?

 

Running backs coach

Offensive coord in the nfl experience

 

 

Would nagy split the run game/pass game responsibilities? Would Kitchens take the job?

Could do worse. Could do better.

 

No one seems more logical that Shurmur if not for the fact that it doesn't seem like Nagy is going to give up play calling.

 

I wonder how much Nagy will prioritize the West coast/zone blocking schemes. Could he go college again? Chasing the RPO concepts Helfrich was supposedly hired to incorporate?

[raw]

What about Kitchens for OC?

 

Running backs coach

Offensive coord in the nfl experience

 

 

Would nagy split the run game/pass game responsibilities? Would Kitchens take the job?

Could do worse. Could do better.

 

No one seems more logical that Shurmur if not for the fact that it doesn't seem like Nagy is going to give up play calling.

 

I wonder how much Nagy will prioritize the West coast/zone blocking schemes. Could he go college again? Chasing the RPO concepts Helfrich was supposedly hired to incorporate?

 

Nah. I think the whole purpose of firing the run game coordinators (and not the passing game guys) is to find experience running an NFL run game.

[David]

[raw]

Castillo is solid. He came from Michigan (where he coached earlier today as the OL coach), but has a ton of NFL experience, with the Eagles under Reid. He coached 6 top 10 rushing teams, and actually was Eagles defensive coordinator at one point. He knows football in general.

[UK]

Castillo is solid. He came from Michigan (where he coached earlier today as the OL coach), but has a ton of NFL experience, with the Eagles under Reid. He coached 6 top 10 rushing teams, and actually was Eagles defensive coordinator at one point. He knows football in general.

 

He's a safe pick for Nagy given their history. I would have preferred Callahan (Wash) or Matsko (Car).

[raw]

Castillo is solid. He came from Michigan (where he coached earlier today as the OL coach), but has a ton of NFL experience, with the Eagles under Reid. He coached 6 top 10 rushing teams, and actually was Eagles defensive coordinator at one point. He knows football in general.

 

He's a safe pick for Nagy given their history. I would have preferred Callahan (Wash) or Matsko (Car).

 

Yeah safe but competent works in this case. I too wouldve preferred those other 2.

[WrigleyField 22]

Castillo is solid. He came from Michigan (where he coached earlier today as the OL coach), but has a ton of NFL experience, with the Eagles under Reid. He coached 6 top 10 rushing teams, and actually was Eagles defensive coordinator at one point. He knows football in general.

 

He's a safe pick for Nagy given their history. I would have preferred Callahan (Wash) or Matsko (Car).

 

Yeah safe but competent works in this case. I too wouldve preferred those other 2.

Could still bring in one of those guys as OC?

[MidoreX]

If KC doesn't lose their OC to a HC job, I would inquire about their current QB coach Kafka.

 

A blog or two on my news feed are throwing his name around as a top of the list candidate. That would be a pretty fast rise... 1 year at quality control coach, 2 years as QB coach with what seems to be a generational quarterback, and then OC.

 

The relative lack of experience compared to Shurmur and others is cause for concern, but he'd definitely be on the same page as Nagy. It's sounding like he wants nothing but Reid deciples this time around. I wonder what effect (good or bad) grabbing helfrich and hiestand from outside that tree/system had on what they were trying to do offensively

[WrigleyField 22]

If KC doesn't lose their OC to a HC job, I would inquire about their current QB coach Kafka.

 

A blog or two on my news feed are throwing his name around as a top of the list candidate. That would be a pretty fast rise... 1 year at quality control coach, 2 years as QB coach with what seems to be a generational quarterback, and then OC.

 

The relative lack of experience compared to Shurmur and others is cause for concern, but he'd definitely be on the same page as Nagy. It's sounding like he wants nothing but Reid deciples this time around. I wonder what effect (good or bad) grabbing helfrich and hiestand from outside that tree/system had on what they were trying to do offensively

Chief fans are already calling him, the heir apparent to Reid haha.

 

First Bieniemy's situation has to get settled. He's already got 2 interviews lined up.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

They restructured Fuller’s contract to create $6m in cap space this offseason while raising his cap hit in 2021 and beyond.

 

Borrowing from the future to pay for 2020 is the worst thing they could be doing

[David]

They restructured Fuller’s contract to create $6m in cap space this offseason while raising his cap hit in 2021 and beyond.

 

Borrowing from the future to pay for 2020 is the worst thing they could be doing

 

can't they pretty much do this cap dance indefinitely? there's always somewhere to go.

[WrigleyField 22]

They restructured Fuller’s contract to create $6m in cap space this offseason while raising his cap hit in 2021 and beyond.

 

Borrowing from the future to pay for 2020 is the worst thing they could be doing

 

can't they pretty much do this cap dance indefinitely? there's always somewhere to go.

With a raising cap, its impact is definitely lessened to a degree. They are still in a pretty overall healthy cap situation and one or two of those isn't going to be a killer. Some of its just a guarantee/non-guarantee dance, and some of the space you created now could be for non-guarantees in future years which won't ever hit that cap unless the player is still productive and worth that cap. Also, with cap rollovers its also sometimes a "six of one, half a dozen of the other" scenario.

 

Of course, if you're just really just 100% done with this team, any of that is bad. You want to do the exact opposite and no amount of backloading is reasonable.