Albert Amora Jr

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, and it's that Baez is an awesome baseball freak and that Almora is likely Just Some Dude, so get outta here with that stuff.

[Old Style]

Using that link (https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/expected ... HC&min=100), we should have traded Baez two years ago because he was due for a big regression. Stats are fun and great for argumentative purposes, but there's a reason the game is played on the field.

 

There was a way to say this without being a [expletive]

Sounds like you need a safe space. The internet may not be for you, little girl.

[imb]

GET OFF THE INTERNET, FEMALE

[Tim]

Using that link (https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/expected ... HC&min=100), we should have traded Baez two years ago because he was due for a big regression. Stats are fun and great for argumentative purposes, but there's a reason the game is played on the field.

Stats are good for even more than that if you know how to use them and put them in the proper context. :good:

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Using that link (https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/expected ... HC&min=100), we should have traded Baez two years ago because he was due for a big regression. Stats are fun and great for argumentative purposes, but there's a reason the game is played on the field.

 

There was a way to say this without being a [expletive]

Sounds like you need a safe space. The internet may not be for you, little girl.

 

get the horsefeathers out of here with this.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

As the person who was being skeptical of xwOBA like 5 posts ago, it is measuring what happens on the field. Do you think it's a ranking of their Mario Kart abilities or something? Is it 2004 again?

[Old Style]

 

There was a way to say this without being a [expletive]

Sounds like you need a safe space. The internet may not be for you, little girl.

 

get the horsefeathers out of here with this.

 

Jokes, yo.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Sounds like you need a safe space. The internet may not be for you, little girl.

 

get the horsefeathers out of here with this.

 

Jokes, yo.

 

it was a really bad joke.

[Old Style]

QUIT BEING SO MEAN TO ME YOU MEANIE HEAD.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

QUIT BEING SO MEAN TO ME YOU MEANIE HEAD.

 

is this another joke i can't tell

[Old Style]

QUIT BEING SO MEAN TO ME YOU MEANIE HEAD.

 

is this another joke i can't tell

No, the internet is serious business. You have crushed my will to live. I am now going to swerve into oncoming traffic because of the continued harassment here on this message board.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

QUIT BEING SO MEAN TO ME YOU MEANIE HEAD.

 

is this another joke i can't tell

No, the internet is serious business. You have crushed my will to live. I am now going to swerve into oncoming traffic because of the continued harassment here on this message board.

 

Just so we're clear: misogynistic jokes, even if they're ironic, aren't okay. You can banter and even needle people for being over-sensitive without crossing that line. This is not a suggestion. I'd also suggest that trying to use safe space as a pejorative is also something to seriously reconsider.

[Old Style]

I apologize for my poor attempts at humor. I did not mean to offend or upset anyone here.

[Derwood]

I knew an Old Style meltdown would happen eventually, but didn't think this would be what set him off

[Old Style]

That's nowhere close to a meltdown. Not saying I'm not capable of one, though. :hello:

[Backtobanks]

Insults aside, I still tend to agree with TT that all of these advanced stats are not very predictive especially with young players. If Almora is terribly over-valued at this point and due for an ugly regression according to these stats, then I'm sure the other teams use those same stats when making decisions on trades and certainly wouldn't trade us a TOR starter. BTW, using some of those advanced stats has us 4.5 games ahead of the Brewers instead of 1.5 back.

[Old Style]

Insults aside, I still tend to agree with TT that all of these advanced stats are not very predictive especially with young players. If Almora is terribly over-valued at this point and due for an ugly regression according to these stats, then I'm sure the other teams use those same stats when making decisions on trades and certainly wouldn't trade us a TOR starter. BTW, using some of those advanced stats has us 4.5 games ahead of the Brewers instead of 1.5 back.

Have any three team trade proposals you'd like to hit us with?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Insults aside, I still tend to agree with TT that all of these advanced stats are not very predictive especially with young players. If Almora is terribly over-valued at this point and due for an ugly regression according to these stats, then I'm sure the other teams use those same stats when making decisions on trades and certainly wouldn't trade us a TOR starter. BTW, using some of those advanced stats has us 4.5 games ahead of the Brewers instead of 1.5 back.

 

[Tim]

Insults aside, I still tend to agree with TT that all of these advanced stats are not very predictive especially with young players. If Almora is terribly over-valued at this point and due for an ugly regression according to these stats, then I'm sure the other teams use those same stats when making decisions on trades and certainly wouldn't trade us a TOR starter. BTW, using some of those advanced stats has us 4.5 games ahead of the Brewers instead of 1.5 back.

This is so far off in so many ways I'm perplexed on how to respond.

[Rob]

I also would like to agree with TT that the moon landing was a hoax perpetuated by the lizard people.

[Bertz]

I actually agree about the over-valued thing. It's not 2005 anymore, if his BABIP is really just a mirage that's not fooling anybody in the game to give up excess value for him. There are no dumb FO's anymore except maybe Colorado.

[davell]

I actually agree about the over-valued thing. It's not 2005 anymore, if his BABIP is really just a mirage that's not fooling anybody in the game to give up excess value for him. There are no dumb FO's anymore except maybe Colorado.

 

Baltimore. Unless you didn't list them because dumb is way too positive of a description for them.

[Bertz]

I actually agree about the over-valued thing. It's not 2005 anymore, if his BABIP is really just a mirage that's not fooling anybody in the game to give up excess value for him. There are no dumb FO's anymore except maybe Colorado.

 

Baltimore. Unless you didn't list them because dumb is way too positive of a description for them.

 

Yeah Baltimore is a good call. Though I tend to think Duquette knows what he's doing and Angelos is just a nightmare, meaning their issues are more big picture and less not properly valuing guys in trade.

 

The larger point still stands, there aren't any FOs anymore that don't get BABIP or FIP or other concepts that were novel like 12 years ago. If we can spend 30 seconds on Fangraphs and figure out that a guy has been fortunate then they're not going to be overvalued on the market.

[Tim]

I actually agree about the over-valued thing. It's not 2005 anymore, if his BABIP is really just a mirage that's not fooling anybody in the game to give up excess value for him. There are no dumb FO's anymore except maybe Colorado.

 

Baltimore. Unless you didn't list them because dumb is way too positive of a description for them.

 

Yeah Baltimore is a good call. Though I tend to think Duquette knows what he's doing and Angelos is just a nightmare, meaning their issues are more big picture and less not properly valuing guys in trade.

 

The larger point still stands, there aren't any FOs anymore that don't get BABIP or FIP or other concepts that were novel like 12 years ago. If we can spend 30 seconds on Fangraphs and figure out that a guy has been fortunate then they're not going to be overvalued on the market.

Given that Colorado demoted Gray because they didn't understand it, how about we propose that swap?

[Bertz]

 

Baltimore. Unless you didn't list them because dumb is way too positive of a description for them.

 

Yeah Baltimore is a good call. Though I tend to think Duquette knows what he's doing and Angelos is just a nightmare, meaning their issues are more big picture and less not properly valuing guys in trade.

 

The larger point still stands, there aren't any FOs anymore that don't get BABIP or FIP or other concepts that were novel like 12 years ago. If we can spend 30 seconds on Fangraphs and figure out that a guy has been fortunate then they're not going to be overvalued on the market.

Given that Colorado demoted Gray because they didn't understand it, how about we propose that swap?

 

I believe most indications out of Colorado are that they wanted to give him a mental breather more than they actually think he's bad now. Similar to Schwarber being sent down last year, pull the cord before he starts pressing too much and developing bad habits.