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respect to the Jets

 

 

But did the Jets vote to implement the rule?

 

He did vote for it, so this is a weird mixed message.

 

The story that there wasn’t an actual vote and just basically a straw poll taken makes this a little more interesting. I hope the NFLPA takes it to court as something that should have been collectively bargained.

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Trey Wingo, who usually has the most milquetoast, tepid takes on the radio, really laid into the NFL about this. Completely called out the league using patriotism to turn a buck, called out Goodell's buddy buddy relationship with Trump, and said that with Trump and Pence chiming in about sports decisions, that no one can tell athletes to "shut up and stick to sports" anymore.
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Well said Steve Kerr

 

They're just playing off their fan base, and they're just basically trying to use the anthem as fake patriotism, nationalism, scaring people. It's idiotic, but that's how the NFL has handled their business

 

I'm proud to be in a league that understands patriotism in America is about free speech, It's about peacefully protesting. I think our leaders in the NBA understand that when an NFL player is kneeling, they were kneeling to protest police brutality, to protest racial inequality. They're weren't disrespecting the flag or the military, but our president decided to make it about that and the NFL followed suit and pandered to their fan base by creating this hysteria.

 

It's kind of what's wrong with our country. People in high places are trying to divide us, divide loyalties, make this about the flag, as if the flag is something other than what it really is. It's a representation of what we're about, which is diversity, peaceful protest, the abilities, the right to free speech. So, it's really ironic, actually, what the NFL is doing

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Doesnt the NBA require their players to stand during the anthem?

Yes, but conventional wisdom is that since the NBA tolerates and even encourages its players to speak out on topics that mean something to them, they're happier to play ball on that topic.

 

And in any case I think that's an old rule, made before this stuff blew up, that could be changed.

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Doesnt the NBA require their players to stand during the anthem?

Yes, but conventional wisdom is that since the NBA tolerates and even encourages its players to speak out on topics that mean something to them, they're happier to play ball on that topic.

 

And in any case I think that's an old rule, made before this stuff blew up, that could be changed.

 

Also, it was collectively bargained rather than implemented unilaterally.

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Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.

 

It was enacted because a Muslim wouldn't though.

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Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.

 

It was enacted because a Muslim wouldn't though.

A black man from Mississippi who converted to Islam, at that. Ultimately, he and the league worked out a compromise and he ended up playing for several more years. I can't imagine that would be the outcome today.

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I forgot all about that. In grade school the 4th, 5th & 6th graders would have a indoor volleyball tournament where the winning team would face the teachers. The year my team won, I did this before serving every time... I was really cool.

 

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Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.

 

Those people all left as NBA fans when Allen Iverson was the face of the league and "thugs" were ruining the game. They don't pay attention to basketball at all.

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Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.

 

Those people all left as NBA fans when Allen Iverson was the face of the league and "thugs" were ruining the game. They don't pay attention to basketball at all.

Kinda. Didn’t AI’s throwback jerseys on the bench lead to the mandate to wear a suit when injured?

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https://sports.yahoo.com/cant-win-one-president-trump-told-jerry-jones-private-player-protests-182554834.html

 

 

The NFL can’t win.

 

That was the message that President Donald Trump delivered to Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones in a private telephone conversation between the two men in September of 2017 – an exchange that took place in the midst of a mushrooming player protest controversy for the league. Jones revealed Trump’s warning in an April deposition in the collusion complaint brought against the NFL by Colin Kaepernick, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal. The contents of that deposition, which have been confirmed to Yahoo Sports by a source familiar with the proceedings, included revelations about Jones’ conversation with Trump regarding political attacks against the league for failing to quell player protests during the national anthem.

 

According to the Wall Street Journal story and an additional confirming source, Trump instructed Jones to relay a simple message to other power brokers in the league:

 

“Tell everybody, you can’t win this one,” Jones recalled Trump saying, according to a deposition transcript. “This one lifts me.”

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So, ostensibly, doesn't that really open the door to players being able to take this up as a true First Amendment issue?

 

Would think that this first moves the collusion case forward and then that would be the next domino to fall.

 

horsefeathers, this is the most interesting the NFL has been in years

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