2017 Actual MLB Draft Day(s) Thread

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If anyone has access or can find the scouts' takes, that would be cool.

The "scouts take" on Cubs picks from The Athletic (really nothing new):

 

With their second-round pick, the Cubs selected righty Cory Abbott out of Loyola Marymount in California. Scouts say the righty has a fastball that sits in the low 90s, but has enough movement to generate a significant amount of groundballs. His curve also is a groundball-inducer, but he has a quite a bit of a back stab, which leads to a lack of deception. His upside is a strike-thrower who generates a lot of grounders and works in the back of a rotation.

 

According to scouts, Estrada’s stuff slid back a bit after a strong summer as his velocity dipped and the results did as well. However, when he’s at his best, Estrada has both stuff and feel to pitch, with a solid changeup to complement a fastball that can touch the mid-90s.

 

Weird to reference a curve when Abbott's big out pitch is his slider (which he famously learned by watching video of Noah Syndergaard).

 

Yeah, I found that part weird too -- about Abbott having a curveball when the scouting reports say he has a pretty effective slider. I mean it could fall in that C. Kluber breaking-ball gray area I guess? I doubt it though.

 

Also, nice to hear the Cubs saved some money on B. Little. I hope they save some when they sign A. Lange too. We really need to develop a pitcher from this draft class, and by pitcher I mean a decent starting pitcher (hopefully mid-rotation starter).

[Hrubes20]

Andrew Karp was really good yesterday against a strong LSU team in the CWS. FSU lost, but certainly not because of Karp.

 

5.1 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 Ks. - 81 pitches (55 strikes), 7-1 GO/AO ratio

 

He came on in relief of Cole Sands, who laid an egg. The path still isn't clear for him to get a weekend rotation spot at FSU next year, so there is a small glimmer of hope that he could be signed. The 2 more years of eligibility make it tough, though.

[davell]

 

Lange, Velázquez, and Estrada are unsigned, as far as top 10 rounds go.....Wish like hell we'd get some bonus numbers.

[davell]

[Hrubes20]

 

Slot value is good news, IMO. Boras always scares me a bit, even with Thompson's injury history.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Austin Filiere also signed for slot.

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The original post has been updated to include all official signings and bonuses where we have them.

[davell]

 

Hmm, kind of thought we may get a slight discount on him.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

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Hmm, kind of thought we may get a slight discount on him.

 

Obviously Abbott is the key money saver.

[davell]

 

Wow, the money here really surprises me. 1) He was ranked top 50ish or so and 2) He's a Boras client.

 

For him to fall to the 5th, with that type of figure is surprising. It'll be very interesting to see Estrada's number.

[craig]

Austin Filiere also signed for slot.

Surprised at full slot there. Curious.

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Hmm, kind of thought we may get a slight discount on him.

 

Also, when he was drafted, I thought his name was Erlich a la Erlich Bachman. It was pretty disappointing to find out it's not but I think I'm still going to call him Erlich.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Lange is pitching currently on ESPN, against Oregon State.

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[davell]

That's a shock. So, we're saving 173k on Little, probably 100k apiece or so on Carrier and Glowicki, and have the overage of 374k to use on Estrada....Basically, we can offer 950,000-1M on Estrada, assuming the 9-10th round seniors are savings of at least 100k. And Lange and Velázquez come in at slot.

[craig]

That's a shock. So, we're saving 173k on Little, probably 100k apiece or so on Carrier and Glowicki, and have the overage of 374k to use on Estrada....Basically, we can offer 950,000-1M on Estrada, assuming the 9-10th round seniors are savings of at least 100k. And Lange and Velázquez come in at slot.

 

Thanks for the numbers Dave, and agree it's a surprise. Bad one, but perhaps also a good one.

 

Bad re Estrada: maybe we don't have that much to spend on him, maybe they won't even get him signed, and even if they do maybe that means he wasn't valued as that great of a prospect; if he barely gets a million and the rest of the league let him go to round 6 because they didn't think he was worth even a mill.

 

But I think it's very good re Abbott. Think we've been assuming he was a budget pick, was taken to save $$ for Estrada, and isn't really a legit 2nd-round talent. This suggests that the Cubs scouting saw otherwise. There were other college pitchers who'd have signed for the same slot value; Cubs obviously liked him a lot better than some of the media scouting sources, or perhaps better than other teams. Of course it's possible that they mis-scouted him and he'll prove he's not really a 2nd-round value.

 

But I think the Cubs have some smart scouts and are pretty thorough. I'm really pretty happy that they think he's good enough to be worth full 2nd-round slot, and that he was the best BPA there. That's more fun and makes me more optimistic than if they think he's a 4th round talent.

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What the hell? So essentially the Cubs liked Abbot more than absolutely everyone. That's a headscratcher.

 

Also, have I mentioned how much I horsefeathering hate having college draft picks still in the CWS? Mainieri inexcusably had Lange throw 115 pitches today. He was at exactly 100 pitches through 6 innings. He put him out there again for the 7th, in which he threw another 13 pitches, and then had him face the first batter of the 8th. This was simply absurd.

 

Lange was 90-93 (mostly 91) again. His curve is pretty damn great when he's commanding it. However, he lost all command of it in the 3rd inning and ended up walking in a run. Still ended up with 8 K's in the 7.1 IP against one of the best college teams we've seen in a decade. I'm not sure I could even classify the few changeups I saw today as "show me", though. They were pretty bad.

[craig]

Lange 8K/4BB/2hits over 7.1. Walked in a run in the 3rd, that was it, and was apparently cruising down the stretch, I believe got last 8 guys and 12 of last 13. Kendall Rogers said he K'd the last guy in the 7th with a 93 mph fastball.

[OleMissCub]

Lange 8K/4BB/2hits over 7.1. Walked in a run in the 3rd, that was it, and was apparently cruising down the stretch, I believe got last 8 guys and 12 of last 13. Kendall Rogers said he K'd the last guy in the 7th with a 93 mph fastball.

 

Against what is probably the best college baseball team in history. Good to see.

[davell]

Yeah, I agree with Craig....Its definitely intriguing that we gave Abbott that much. We obviously valued him as a true 2nd rounder. If we get Estrada as a 950k-1M type, that's cool too. I think I'm more intrigued that we're giving Abbott that much, than I am if Estrada is getting a bit less than I'd have thought.....

[davell]

And yeah, its frustrating as hell seeing these guys pitch in the CWS, especially at 110+ pitches....

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Hmm, kind of thought we may get a slight discount on him.

 

Also, when he was drafted, I thought his name was Erlich a la Erlich Bachman. It was pretty disappointing to find out it's not but I think I'm still going to call him Erlich.

 

ERICH A LIAH

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hello eric, this is you as a old man

 

you win many world series with cubs, but you are alone, and old

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Lange 8K/4BB/2hits over 7.1. Walked in a run in the 3rd, that was it, and was apparently cruising down the stretch, I believe got last 8 guys and 12 of last 13. Kendall Rogers said he K'd the last guy in the 7th with a 93 mph fastball.

 

Just an FYI, Lange gave up what should have been a 2-run double in that third but the umps ruled it foul and inexplicably didn't review it.

[mdwilla]

Kinda shocked we didn't sign anyone to underslot deals, what a weird year to shy away from that strategy with the extra first round pick.