Starting Pitching candidates

[David]

that goofy polite clapper nerd in the bottom right gets me every time

[CubinNY]

That ball has yet to land.

[Cubswin11]

These guys are just lying

 

 

[Tryptamine]

I just can't get myself to want Jake back unless his contract is way below the supposed market value. I mean like 3/60, because even at 4/90 or something along those lines I just have zero interest. I hope the Cubs feel the same, because if that 4/112 rumor is true I'm going to vomit.

[Thusly Boned]

I just can't get myself to want Jake back unless his contract is way below the supposed market value. I mean like 3/60, because even at 4/90 or something along those lines I just have zero interest. I hope the Cubs feel the same, because if that 4/112 rumor is true I'm going to vomit.

 

I really feel like Arrieta is about to fall apart, and I want no part of him on a multi-year contract. It was a great time, but happy trails to you, Jake.

[davell]

I kind of think we may wind up seeing each of Darvish and Jake signing deals for less than originally anticipated. Yu for 5/125 or so, Jake for 4/100 or so. Maybe each get a vesting option. But BOTH get an opt out after year 1, to potentially put themselves back into the market, when more teams are expected to be spending.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I kind of think we may wind up seeing each of Darvish and Jake signing deals for less than originally anticipated. Yu for 5/125 or so, Jake for 4/100 or so. Maybe each get a vesting option. But BOTH get an opt out after year 1, to potentially put themselves back into the market, when more teams are expected to be spending.

 

Darvish's MLBTR projection was 6/160, so that's basically only taking a year away. Arrieta's projection was 4/100. I think if they're getting less than anticipated you're talking about Darvish maybe dipping into 4 years, and Arrieta definitely not getting 9 figures.

[davell]

I kind of think we may wind up seeing each of Darvish and Jake signing deals for less than originally anticipated. Yu for 5/125 or so, Jake for 4/100 or so. Maybe each get a vesting option. But BOTH get an opt out after year 1, to potentially put themselves back into the market, when more teams are expected to be spending.

 

Darvish's MLBTR projection was 6/160, so that's basically only taking a year away. Arrieta's projection was 4/100. I think if they're getting less than anticipated you're talking about Darvish maybe dipping into 4 years, and Arrieta definitely not getting 9 figures.

 

Eh, I want no part of Jake, but I've always figured Boras would get him nine figures. I was figuring him for 5/125 from someone. That's about what I figured Darvish would get though. 6/160ish. I don't think Darvish will have to settle for 4 years and I don't see Jake settling for 3. But, they both got the short end of FA, with teams gearing up for next year.

[Cubswin11]

I'd be fine going to 4/85-95 with an opt out for either of Jake or Darvish. Wouldn't do 5 years on Jake but I'd be okay with doing 5/105-115 for Yu with the opt out. Cobb can go horsefeathers off at this point unless he comes for 3 years or less and $15 aav or less.

[imb]

God can you imagine how bad Jake will be by year 5 of whatever deal he signs? At least with Yu you can be relatively confident you're getting some value on the front end

[CyHawk_Cub]

I can't even get myself to presume that Jake would be worth his contract in year 1. horsefeathers that. I don't even want him on a discount.

 

For me, it's basically Yu or bust. If he can't be landed, then piece together #5/#6. Sign Addison Reed & try to approximate a super bullpen the best they can.

[Lefty]

I am starting to think that Arrietta will be reintroduced at the Cubs Convention. Not an optimist by nature. I would love Darvish on a decent deal, whatever that means nowadays.

 

Does anyone think the front office looks for excuses to show loyalty as a signal to future targets? If Arrietta comes cheaper than Darvish in terms of years and money, a baseball decision can be couched as a decision to stick with "our guy." I assume that the FO is more sanguine about Arrieta's future than many of us are.

[David]

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[Cubswin11]

Good, go sign Yu now

[Bertz]

There's gotta be more right? Musgrove and Moran should get you a good setup man, not Gerrit Cole.

[Tryptamine]

Michael Feliz also involved

[Jaxbro]

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RHP Mike Feliz also heading to Pittsburgh. Moran is the Astros #5 prospect

[Lefty]

Assuming Twins and Astros out on Darvish, we are competing with Dodgers and Yankees; an unenviable financial position. If the luxury tax is so punishing, how can they be in at all?

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RHP Mike Feliz also heading to Pittsburgh. Moran is the Astros #5 prospect

CF Jason Martin their #15 prospect is supposed fourth piece

[Dfan25]

Assuming Twins and Astros out on Darvish, we are competing with Dodgers and Yankees; an unenviable financial position. If the luxury tax is so punishing, how can they be in at all?

There is no indication the Twins are out on Darvish. I would say they are the biggest competition for the Cubs if Darvish is going for the money. Yankees and Dodgers need to make trades to get rid of money first.

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RHP Mike Feliz also heading to Pittsburgh. Moran is the Astros #5 prospect

CF Jason Martin their #15 prospect is supposed fourth piece

 

People are going to disagree, but I think it was a nice return for Pittsburgh. They didn't get star power but they got 3 guys who will provide long term cheap value and are ready to play immediately.

[r_mack]

Good God, we gave up Eloy for Jose Quintana

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Good God, we gave up Eloy for Jose Quintana

 

Quintana is better and we have him about twice as long.

[Cubswin11]

Good God, we gave up Eloy for Jose Quintana

 

Quintana is better and we have him about twice as long.

Yeah and he also helped win us a division and got us within a stones throw of the WS