Random In-season Musings and Rumors

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The Royals have acquired outfielder Melky Cabrera and cash from the White Sox in exchange for minor league righty A.J. Puckett and minor league lefty Andre Davis, the White Sox announced. Kansas City has designated minor league righty Andrew Edwards for assignment in a corresponding roster move, tweets MLB.com’s Jeffrey Flanagan. MLB Network’s Ken Rosenthal tweets that the White Sox are paying about half of the roughly $5.2MM that Cabrera is still owed on this year’s $15MM salary.

 

And Soler falls further down the depth chart

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The Royals have acquired outfielder Melky Cabrera and cash from the White Sox in exchange for minor league righty A.J. Puckett and minor league lefty Andre Davis, the White Sox announced. Kansas City has designated minor league righty Andrew Edwards for assignment in a corresponding roster move, tweets MLB.com’s Jeffrey Flanagan. MLB Network’s Ken Rosenthal tweets that the White Sox are paying about half of the roughly $5.2MM that Cabrera is still owed on this year’s $15MM salary.

 

And Soler falls further down the depth chart

 

They are going to have to trade him to some team like Oakland that is going to be bad enough to play him everyday no matter how bad he is (in between injuries)

[Sammy Sofa]

The FO would have been better off just spending their money on a "Cuban Pete" cassingle.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Neither Candelario or Zagunis are starting for Iowa.

[David]

Neither Candelario or Zagunis are starting for Iowa.

 

GIVE ME VERLANDER RIGHT NOW

[We Got The Whole 9]

JV just shut down the Astros too

[Cubswin11]

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Moved to the other thread

[David]

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seems ilke an eternity ago that we got this guy

[CaliforniaRaisin]

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Yes, yes. Ignore the injury red flags all over the rotation and the clear need for a lefty reliever and keep hording prospects like you're in Tampa.

 

The Cubs team on their way to 103 regular season wins had a bullpen that looked fantastic at this time last year but thank goodness for the Chapman (eww) and Montgomery acquisitions.

[Brian]

I've paid almost no attention to the Dodgers since NLCS game 6, except to know they win a lot, they got a rookie that's hit a ton of home runs, and Kershaw's back has flared up from a whiplash injury last October... are they still bad against lefties?

[Liam Neeson]

I've paid almost no attention to the Dodgers since NLCS game 6, except to know they win a lot, they got a rookie that's hit a ton of home runs, and Kershaw's back has flared up from a whiplash injury last October... are they still bad against lefties?

 

No they seemed to have fixed that problem. They have the 3rd highest wRC+ against lefties this year.

 

Dodgers at this point could have had rentals of JD Martinez and Darvish and pushed their WS needle basically into FU mode.

[David]

I've paid almost no attention to the Dodgers since NLCS game 6, except to know they win a lot, they got a rookie that's hit a ton of home runs, and Kershaw's back has flared up from a whiplash injury last October... are they still bad against lefties?

 

No they seemed to have fixed that problem. They have the 3rd highest wRC+ against lefties this year.

 

Dodgers at this point could have had rentals of JD Martinez and Darvish and pushed their WS needle basically into FU mode.

Don't really think the needle gets moved all that much by doing that.

[Tedward]

Looks like the Cubs started the run on relievers.... Addison Reed to BOS is close to being final, and Indians are pushing for Britton ...

[Liam Neeson]

I've paid almost no attention to the Dodgers since NLCS game 6, except to know they win a lot, they got a rookie that's hit a ton of home runs, and Kershaw's back has flared up from a whiplash injury last October... are they still bad against lefties?

 

No they seemed to have fixed that problem. They have the 3rd highest wRC+ against lefties this year.

 

Dodgers at this point could have had rentals of JD Martinez and Darvish and pushed their WS needle basically into FU mode.

Don't really think the needle gets moved all that much by doing that.

 

Fine, the Fangraphs odds go from 19% to 21%. They have endless payroll.

 

"We may have wasted another year of Kershaw but hey at least we have Alex Verdugo and all this money!"

[David]

 

No they seemed to have fixed that problem. They have the 3rd highest wRC+ against lefties this year.

 

Dodgers at this point could have had rentals of JD Martinez and Darvish and pushed their WS needle basically into FU mode.

Don't really think the needle gets moved all that much by doing that.

 

Fine, the Fangraphs odds go from 19% to 21%. They have endless payroll.

 

"We may have wasted another year of Kershaw but hey at least we have Alex Verdugo and all this money!"

 

if we're having this conversation a year ago, maybe you're talking about cody bellinger and not alex verdugo.

 

i just don't see how it makes sense for any team that has the division locked up and is on pace for 114 wins to give up any future value for "upgrades."

 

diminishing returns. i'm not even sure you get a 2% gain there. their WS odds are already absurdly high. maxed out.

 

hell, they can still trade verdugo when they actually need an upgrade, maybe next year. how the hell do you get better than a .700 baseball team?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Don't really think the needle gets moved all that much by doing that.

 

Fine, the Fangraphs odds go from 19% to 21%. They have endless payroll.

 

"We may have wasted another year of Kershaw but hey at least we have Alex Verdugo and all this money!"

 

if we're having this conversation a year ago, maybe you're talking about cody bellinger and not alex verdugo.

 

i just don't see how it makes sense for any team that has the division locked up and is on pace for 114 wins to give up any future value for "upgrades."

 

diminishing returns. i'm not even sure you get a 2% gain there. their WS odds are already absurdly high. maxed out.

 

hell, they can still trade verdugo when they actually need an upgrade, maybe next year. how the hell do you get better than a .700 baseball team?

 

Verdugo isn't on the same level as Seager or Bellinger (I'm not sure Joc won't end up with a better career).

 

How much did the Cubs gain in WS% by trading away a better prospect than Verdugo for Chapman? The Cubs don't win last year's WS without Chapman. There are actual deficiencies and red flags on the Dodgers roster that should be addressed.

[David]

 

Fine, the Fangraphs odds go from 19% to 21%. They have endless payroll.

 

"We may have wasted another year of Kershaw but hey at least we have Alex Verdugo and all this money!"

 

if we're having this conversation a year ago, maybe you're talking about cody bellinger and not alex verdugo.

 

i just don't see how it makes sense for any team that has the division locked up and is on pace for 114 wins to give up any future value for "upgrades."

 

diminishing returns. i'm not even sure you get a 2% gain there. their WS odds are already absurdly high. maxed out.

 

hell, they can still trade verdugo when they actually need an upgrade, maybe next year. how the hell do you get better than a .700 baseball team?

 

Verdugo isn't on the same level as Seager or Bellinger (I'm not sure Joc won't end up with a better career).

 

How much did the Cubs gain in WS% by trading away a better prospect than Verdugo for Chapman? The Cubs don't win last year's WS without Chapman. There are actual deficiencies and red flags on the Dodgers roster that should be addressed.

 

That's speculative hindsight. I don't really agree that they don't win it without him (in the sense that they won it because they got him). They probably don't win it either way if they do it over again, but they did something very improbable. It's just not something worth debating. Of course you can point to any player who contributed and say, "Oh, they don't win it without that guy." The fact is, they had to strongly defy the odds either way. They did. I don't think they did anything right beyond just being a good baseball team that had some improbable things fall their way in key moments. You're not gonna convince me otherwise on the math. We just got very lucky, despite being really damn good.

 

And not that it's all that consequential to the argument, Bellinger was only a top 100 prospect (54) on BA's list a year ago (I'm guessing by midseason he had moved onto lists but I'm too lazy to check). Verdugo went into this year 58th on BA, 61st and MLB.com, and 66th on BP. I don't think their value (bellinger last year) is crazy off as prospects.

[David]

seems like the cardinals are gonna end up trading lynn

[Post Count Padder]

Looks like Astros are getting Liriano and the Nats are trying to land Kintzler from the Twins.

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Mejia was dealt for Montero with Godley.

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And Jeffries back to Milwaukee for like the third time.

[David]

as i posted earlier, i obv don't think a .700 team needs to really do anything, but this nevertheless is still funny to me if it's all they do after all the rumors lol

 

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[Ding Dong Johnson]

lol, Harold Reynolds seems to think the Dodgers are the only team that could get Britton, Darvish, or Verlander, and I believe he thinks they're going to get all 3 of them

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