Bears offseason

[davell]

At this point, I think my ideal draft goes Adams, QB in the 2nd(or trade up in the late 1st) and a TE like Leggett or Butt.

 

If we can add Wagner to the O-Line? I'd like that a lot. Gilmore to the secondary? Absolutely on board with that.

 

Glennon? Eh. Not thrilled. But OK with it, since it still allows you to draft a QB early too.

 

I really hope we find a way to keep Alshon from hitting the market.

 

If the 1st round pick is NOT Adams(or Hooker), I'd love to see Jefferson or Cyprian, or Swearinger, or SOMEONE pretty solid added.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Just your daily reminder there's no good reason to cut cutler this year with such garbage alternative available

 

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If you're not bringing back Cutler, just re-sign Hoyer on the cheap rather than paying that much for Glennon.

 

Yep:

 

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[davell]

Its again looking like Buffalo is going to get rid of Taylor. His 2018 option vests on 3/11, giving him about 2/30 guaranteed.

 

Cleveland looks to be extremely interested in him. He's worlds better than Glennon. I'd give up a 2018 4th or so, just to get him on his current deal, over paying Glennon the same money. Hell, Glennon may cost MORE than just a two year definite cap hit.

[We Got The Whole 9]

I feel like we have a pretty damn good front 7 and if by some miracle we landed Garrett we would have one of the best units in the league.

 

If we go with a QB we are looking at a couple years before we are up to speed but Trubisky looks so crisp; tantalizing talent. I'm good if we take him at 3 but he's not my first choice.

 

If we take one of the Safeties - I'm ALL IN on Hooker - elite measurables AND his hands are huge and he can really bring down a pass - takeaway machine, which we probably need more than anything on the defense. I keep dreaming about a tandem of Jefferson and Hooker. Amos is steady Eddie but doesn't flash enough unique talent to me to get too excited.

 

I love Adams as well but I really want Hooker. Elite single-high guys are just so rare.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Its again looking like Buffalo is going to get rid of Taylor. His 2018 option vests on 3/11, giving him about 2/30 guaranteed.

 

Cleveland looks to be extremely interested in him. He's worlds better than Glennon. I'd give up a 2018 4th or so, just to get him on his current deal, over paying Glennon the same money. Hell, Glennon may cost MORE than just a two year definite cap hit.

I doubt that. 4/60/30 is probably in the range of what he gets and he'll be cuttable after year 2, IMO.

[Guest]

Trubisky and Watson ran 4.66-4.67. Kizer ran 4.83.

[RammyFanny]

Obi Melifonwu just had a 44-inch vertical and a completely insane long jump. And he looks jacked. Don't think he lasts to the 2nd.

[Derwood]

Just your daily reminder there's no good reason to cut cutler this year with such garbage alternative available

 

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[UMFan83]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18835830/tampa-bay-buccaneers-offered-deal-make-mike-glennon-highest-paid-backup-quarterback

 

The Buccaneers offered Mike Glennon a contract that would make him the highest-paid backup quarterback in the NFL, a source confirms to ESPN's Adam Caplan.

 

WTF, spend your cap money elsewhere Bucs. It's insane that the bidding war is now including teams that already have a starting QB...for Mike Glennon

[cubbyvirus00]

The more I think about it, I can see the Bears drafting Jonathan Allen because he helps them 'win now' with John Fox. I think Ryan Pace has the correct long-term outlook but John Fox might force him to spend a pick on somebody he wouldn't normally take.

[jumbo]

The more I think about it, I can see the Bears drafting Jonathan Allen because he helps them 'win now' with John Fox. I think Ryan Pace has the correct long-term outlook but John Fox might force him to spend a pick on somebody he wouldn't normally take.

 

He's ahead of schedule for an injury that will keep him out at least hlaf the season.

[Guest]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18835830/tampa-bay-buccaneers-offered-deal-make-mike-glennon-highest-paid-backup-quarterback

 

The Buccaneers offered Mike Glennon a contract that would make him the highest-paid backup quarterback in the NFL, a source confirms to ESPN's Adam Caplan.

 

WTF, spend your cap money elsewhere Bucs. It's insane that the bidding war is now including teams that already have a starting QB...for Mike Glennon

 

This could be a very good thing.

[RammyFanny]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18835830/tampa-bay-buccaneers-offered-deal-make-mike-glennon-highest-paid-backup-quarterback

 

The Buccaneers offered Mike Glennon a contract that would make him the highest-paid backup quarterback in the NFL, a source confirms to ESPN's Adam Caplan.

 

WTF, spend your cap money elsewhere Bucs. It's insane that the bidding war is now including teams that already have a starting QB...for Mike Glennon

 

This could be a very good thing.

I mean it already said Glennon wasn't interested because he wants to start, so...

[raw]

I feel like we have a pretty damn good front 7 and if by some miracle we landed Garrett we would have one of the best units in the league.

 

If we go with a QB we are looking at a couple years before we are up to speed but Trubisky looks so crisp; tantalizing talent. I'm good if we take him at 3 but he's not my first choice.

 

If we take one of the Safeties - I'm ALL IN on Hooker - elite measurables AND his hands are huge and he can really bring down a pass - takeaway machine, which we probably need more than anything on the defense. I keep dreaming about a tandem of Jefferson and Hooker. Amos is steady Eddie but doesn't flash enough unique talent to me to get too excited.

 

I love Adams as well but I really want Hooker. Elite single-high guys are just so rare.

 

Keep in mind Hooker will not be able to workout before the draft, will miss all of rookie and minicamps, and will likely start camp on the PUP. He's also only a 1-year starter.

[Guest]

I'd much rather draft Lattimore. He ran a 4.36.

 

Teez Tabor, who was projected as maybe the top CB in the draft, ran 4.63.

[Derwood]

I'd much rather draft Lattimore. He ran a 4.36.

 

Teez Tabor, who was projected as maybe the top CB in the draft, ran 4.63.

 

40 times are an incredibly stupid way to judge players. Who cares how fast they can run in a straight line with no pads?

[Guest]

I'd much rather draft Lattimore. He ran a 4.36.

 

Teez Tabor, who was projected as maybe the top CB in the draft, ran 4.63.

 

40 times are an incredibly stupid way to judge players. Who cares how fast they can run in a straight line with no pads?

 

Because generally, the faster they run in a straight line with no pads, the faster they play.

 

And it's not like there's no film on Lattimore, the fact that he possesses world class speed indicates he can keep up with receivers in addition to having instincts.

Edited March 7, 2017 by Stannis

[Derwood]

I'd much rather draft Lattimore. He ran a 4.36.

 

Teez Tabor, who was projected as maybe the top CB in the draft, ran 4.63.

 

40 times are an incredibly stupid way to judge players. Who cares how fast they can run in a straight line with no pads?

 

Because generally, the faster they run in a straight line with no pads, the faster they play.

 

and the NFL is littered with All-Pro's with crappy combine numbers.

[We Got The Whole 9]

I feel like we have a pretty damn good front 7 and if by some miracle we landed Garrett we would have one of the best units in the league.

 

If we go with a QB we are looking at a couple years before we are up to speed but Trubisky looks so crisp; tantalizing talent. I'm good if we take him at 3 but he's not my first choice.

 

If we take one of the Safeties - I'm ALL IN on Hooker - elite measurables AND his hands are huge and he can really bring down a pass - takeaway machine, which we probably need more than anything on the defense. I keep dreaming about a tandem of Jefferson and Hooker. Amos is steady Eddie but doesn't flash enough unique talent to me to get too excited.

 

I love Adams as well but I really want Hooker. Elite single-high guys are just so rare.

 

Keep in mind Hooker will not be able to workout before the draft, will miss all of rookie and minicamps, and will likely start camp on the PUP. He's also only a 1-year starter.

To post the numbers he did with such little experience and make the incredible Center Field plays he does, all the more impressive. His instincts in the pass game are insane. Granted he was terrible a lot of the times in run defense but I chalk most of that up to inexperience and hope that our coaches could polish him up into All-Pro status.

 

We're certainly not in a win-now window so those truths don't scare me off one bit. Elite single high Safeties are just so rare.

Edited March 7, 2017 by We Got The Whole 9

[Guest]

 

40 times are an incredibly stupid way to judge players. Who cares how fast they can run in a straight line with no pads?

 

Because generally, the faster they run in a straight line with no pads, the faster they play.

 

and the NFL is littered with All-Pro's with crappy combine numbers.

 

Ok? Not sure what your point is.

 

No one is judging Lattimore by his time. Sounds like you're regurgitating platitudes you've overheard at the bars.

[Splendid Splinter]

 

40 times are an incredibly stupid way to judge players. Who cares how fast they can run in a straight line with no pads?

 

Because generally, the faster they run in a straight line with no pads, the faster they play.

 

and the NFL is littered with All-Pro's with crappy combine numbers.

 

Richard Sherman for example.

 

40 time for CBs does make some sense (compared to like OL/DL which is just useless for those guys except for the 10 yd split) as they will run a straight line a lot and the other thing is to see if the game tape matches up with that 40 time (maybe you had questions whether that CB lack the top end speed to keep up).

[Derwood]

 

Because generally, the faster they run in a straight line with no pads, the faster they play.

 

and the NFL is littered with All-Pro's with crappy combine numbers.

 

Ok? Not sure what your point is.

 

No one is judging Lattimore by his time. Sounds like you're regurgitating platitudes you've overheard at the bars.

 

Ah, your go-to line when you've got nothing more to say.

 

The Combine is just a big show. All GM's actually care about is game tape and personal interviews. As long as the measurables are with the accepted ranges, the specifics are meaningless

[Guest]

Yeah, yeah. We all know if you step on a crack you break your mother's back, Derwood.

[Guest]

A 4.36 40 is ridiculously fast for a guy regarded as a great cb prospect already.

 

Your knowledge of football is limited to the equivalent of an apple a day keeps the dr. away.

[davell]

I'd much rather draft Lattimore. He ran a 4.36.

 

Teez Tabor, who was projected as maybe the top CB in the draft, ran 4.63.

 

 

I like Lattimore. But he also tweaked his hamstring right after running and has had hamstring issues in the past. A bit too much risk to take at 3 for me. A trade down to the 8-10 range? Yeah, he's a definite possibility in that range. That said, I don't see a team trading up with us.