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David GOAT

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an update from the cat

 

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same thing he's been saying...and same thing the sun times reported back in december.

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hey let us know what the offer is before he signs it

 

lol ok

 

"wow this horsefeathers is GENIUS, look out stearns there's a new chess player in town"

David GOAT

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hey let us know what the offer is before he signs it

 

lol ok

 

"wow this horsefeathers is GENIUS, look out stearns there's a new chess player in town"

 

yeah, i was going to make fun of that...

 

i mean, if they know how strong harper's desire to be a cub is, acting like they're suddenly poor as horsefeathers out of nowhere all offseason and letting it play out this way and then spinning it as ownership coming in to save the day or something at the last minute is probably a good way to get him as cheaply as possible (if he agrees to give you last look). it's also a shitty thing to do and it's also almost certainly not what's happening.

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hey let us know what the offer is before he signs it

 

lol ok

 

"wow this horsefeathers is GENIUS, look out stearns there's a new chess player in town"

 

theo can sell the hot tip about harper signing with the phillies to an enterprising twitter reporter and then next offseason we can buy TWO daniel descalsos (unless trump asks for the money first)

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If you're Philly, are you better off putting that money into Harper, or investing in some combo of Keuchel/Kimbrel/Gonzalez/??? instead

 

The answer is always the one elite guy when these questions come up

 

Even if the non-elite guys are on shorter deals?

 

Harper has averaged around 5 fWAR over the past 3 seasons

 

Keuchel/Kimbrel/Marwin have combined to average around 7.5 fWAR over the past 3 season.

 

And you wouldn't have any on the hook for a 10 year commitment.

 

Instead of signing Greg Maddux the Cubs used the money on Jose Guzman, Randy Myers, Dan Plesac, Candy Maldonado, and Willie Wilson. That didn't turn out too hot.

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The answer is always the one elite guy when these questions come up

 

Even if the non-elite guys are on shorter deals?

 

Harper has averaged around 5 fWAR over the past 3 seasons

 

Keuchel/Kimbrel/Marwin have combined to average around 7.5 fWAR over the past 3 season.

 

And you wouldn't have any on the hook for a 10 year commitment.

 

Instead of signing Greg Maddux the Cubs used the money on Jose Guzman, Randy Myers, Dan Plesac, Candy Maldonado, and Willie Wilson. That didn't turn out too hot.

 

Those guys are totally equivalent to Keuchel and Kimbrel, good call

 

I'm not saying I would sign the 3 over the 1, just throwing it out there for discussion.

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Don't sleep on SF. They want him, and if the choice is living as a rich man in Philadelphia or San Francisco...
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I wonder if SF may bomb the market. That is, a very short term deal with such an immensely high AAV that Boras and Harper can't say no. I suggested something similar early in the offseason, not really thinking it was a real possibility. But say someone threw 3/120+.

 

Still, at the end of the day, the most likely scenario seems to be a creative long term deal (that could be a short term deal in actuality), with options, perhaps on both sides, and maybe deferrals.

 

Sure feels like no one wants Philly ... and it's sort of baffling. Yeah, the Natonals/Braves look good, but the Phillies are promising. Sure feels like they have really go stupid to get Bryce ... and if Manny was option A for them, I wonder if they will go that stupid. Still, after going "in" (maybe not all-in, but they sure moved chips to the middle) with the Realmuto move, now is as good a time as any to live up to the owner's stupid money comments.

 

Still think it's Philly's to lose, but the rumor a couple months or so ago was that the Nationals final offer was closer to 10/350 than the reported 10/300. If that's the case ... can they still come up with that money, after spending big on Corbin and others this offseason?

 

There is a part of me that wonders if a legitimate sleeper is out there, (and I'd count the Cubs as a sleeper by now), but it's just hard to see who emerges this late in the game.

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Man, what a humongous missed opportunity this Harper situation - and entire offseason - is for the Cubs.

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