This is the end, the end, my friend TEN @ CHI (noon)

[jersey cubs fan]

If there is a guy there at 3 you take him, but you do not start him in 2017. That is asking to end his career before it begins. This team is garbage. Stash him behind a Hoyer type until you figure out your offensive line situation.

 

But really, it's not like they are going to spend Cutler's $16m on something more useful.

[WrigleyField 22]

If there is a guy there at 3 you take him, but you do not start him in 2017. That is asking to end his career before it begins. This team is garbage. Stash him behind a Hoyer type until you figure out your offensive line situation.

 

But really, it's not like they are going to spend Cutler's $16m on something more useful.

Yea, Cutlers money is meaningless. They could probably leave $16m of cap on the table this year with his cap hit, let alone without it.

 

If the Bears dont like a QB top 3, I wonder if they will entertain trade offers... could be a good opportunity to do so.

[Guest]

None of the QBs inspire me in 2017. But I doubt anyone is inspired enough to trade up to take a QB, either.

 

I say try to get Romo, draft defense, and go.

[Liam Neeson]

Lets gaze into the crystal ball to see Tony Romo's future behind the 2017 Bears' offensive line...........

 

 

 

[jersey cubs fan]

I say try to get Romo, draft defense, and go.

They have the worst offense in the world. It's a garbage group that is going to get worse before it gets better, with Alshon leaving and the band aid tackles needing to get ripped off. They can't just draft defense and go. That's a recipe for more of the same. They need to make this line a strength.

[We Got The Whole 9]

I think we've finally had enough injuries so that we can lose to SF and get the 2nd pick. It seems like the smart thing to do is to draft Allen or Garrett but with Cutler leaving and all the turbulence his Bears tenure has brought, I feel like the team would prefer to draft a QB and sell the fan base that they finally got a franchise guy to develop. That also buys Pace more time IMO, drafting a QB rather than a defensive stud.

 

The fans are basically at their wits end with the people in charge. They are among the worst owners in major sports. They're so antiquated; it's a damn embarrassment that they need to hire consultants to make their coaching hires.

 

It's like my dad says, I just won't believe in the team fully until the family gets the F out of Dodge.

[raw]

No stopgap. Gonna have a top 3 pick. Pick a guy and spend about 10M less on a backup.

Is one of these guys gonna be worth that investment?

 

Watson certainly won't be. Maybe Kizer?

 

But I'd rather get the best player, especially when you've got a chance at a Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen or Jabrill Peppers.

 

Love Peppers' talent, but he has 1 career forced fumble and 0 turnovers forced in 3 years. Hard to justify top 3, though he's an elite talent (former HS #1 recruit).

 

I actually like Watson, but moreso in the 9-15 range. Don't really want him at 3. Kiser, I don't love, but Trubisky (NC QB) I'd probably take at 3.

[raw]

I think we've finally had enough injuries so that we can lose to SF and get the 2nd pick. It seems like the smart thing to do is to draft Allen or Garrett but with Cutler leaving and all the turbulence his Bears tenure has brought, I feel like the team would prefer to draft a QB and sell the fan base that they finally got a franchise guy to develop. That also buys Pace more time IMO, drafting a QB rather than a defensive stud.

 

The fans are basically at their wits end with the people in charge. They are among the worst owners in major sports. They're so antiquated; it's a damn embarrassment that they need to hire consultants to make their coaching hires.

 

It's like my dad says, I just won't believe in the team fully until the family gets the F out of Dodge.

 

Yeah, I think if they do finish top 3, they have to take a QB. It's hard to justify not taking a QB when you don't have one on the roster (assuming Cutler is gone), especially when you consider that the Bears could have their choice of all the QBs if Cleveland passes on one. If they somehow win a few games and finish in a spot where they don't have a chance at the top 2 QBs, then you can justify not taking the 3rd guy.

 

But the sentiment that "don't like any QBs in this draft" needs to go away. This is as good of a QB draft as it's going to get. There's not even 32 capable starting QBs in the league, so it's not like there's going to be several guys in every draft. And you can't use the don't like any guys at 3 excuse as we are talking about by far the most important position on the team. You reach for a guy you like if you are QB deficient. If you don't like any of the guys enough to reach for, you'll never like any and the GM should probably look for a new line of work.

[Guest]

I say try to get Romo, draft defense, and go.

They have the worst offense in the world. It's a garbage group that is going to get worse before it gets better, with Alshon leaving and the band aid tackles needing to get ripped off. They can't just draft defense and go. That's a recipe for more of the same. They need to make this line a strength.

 

Their interior is a strength, but the tackles suck. They can turn the line into something solid.

[raw]

I say try to get Romo, draft defense, and go.

They have the worst offense in the world. It's a garbage group that is going to get worse before it gets better, with Alshon leaving and the band aid tackles needing to get ripped off. They can't just draft defense and go. That's a recipe for more of the same. They need to make this line a strength.

 

Their interior is a strength, but the tackles suck. They can turn the line into something solid.

 

Whitehair and Long should be very good for a long time. But Sitton is going to be 31 next year and his body looks like it may start deteriorating at some point in the near future. I suspect they'll need another guard at least by the end of 2018. As for the tackles, I think either Massie or Leno would be OK if they had a strong tackle on the opposite side of them. Basically, if one of them was clearly the worst OL on the field...then you'd probably have a pretty good line. But it's hard to hide 2 weak spots as you can't leave TEs in or chip w/ RBs on both sides at the same time.

[jersey cubs fan]

Kyle long is already 28 and chronically hurt.

[WrigleyField 22]

Kyle long is already 28 and chronically hurt.

I mean its football. You're perpetually in danger of almost any position group being decimated within two years.

 

They definitely need to spend a high pick on a QB, but I dont't think it has to be in the first if you feel really comfortable with the alternatives and its an impact position. Wish there was a more premier LT prospect this year.

 

They should also consider a 4th round QB as well ala Washington when they went RG3/Cousins.

[WrigleyField 22]

They have the worst offense in the world. It's a garbage group that is going to get worse before it gets better, with Alshon leaving and the band aid tackles needing to get ripped off. They can't just draft defense and go. That's a recipe for more of the same. They need to make this line a strength.

 

Their interior is a strength, but the tackles suck. They can turn the line into something solid.

 

Whitehair and Long should be very good for a long time. But Sitton is going to be 31 next year and his body looks like it may start deteriorating at some point in the near future. I suspect they'll need another guard at least by the end of 2018. As for the tackles, I think either Massie or Leno would be OK if they had a strong tackle on the opposite side of them. Basically, if one of them was clearly the worst OL on the field...then you'd probably have a pretty good line. But it's hard to hide 2 weak spots as you can't leave TEs in or chip w/ RBs on both sides at the same time.

Good news- Massie's contract is easy to cut loose. Bad news, this FA class sucks.

[Guest]

Kyle long is already 28 and chronically hurt.

 

Dude fell on his ankle and crushed it. Not exactly a "soft-tissue" injury.

[raw]

Kyle long is already 28 and chronically hurt.

 

Dude fell on his ankle and crushed it. Not exactly a "soft-tissue" injury.

 

Shoulder is chronically injured technically. But the shoulder will be surgically repaired, and he won't be chronically injured. He's also NOT 28 quite yet and will play 3/4 of next season at 28, so "already 28" is a little misleading also.

[jersey cubs fan]

Kyle long is already 28 and chronically hurt.

 

Dude fell on his ankle and crushed it. Not exactly a "soft-tissue" injury.

 

Shoulder is chronically injured technically. But the shoulder will be surgically repaired, and he won't be chronically injured. He's also NOT 28 quite yet and will play 3/4 of next season at 28, so "already 28" is a little misleading also.

However you slice it he's not young nor an anchor to depend on.

 

The line is garbage.

[raw]

 

Dude fell on his ankle and crushed it. Not exactly a "soft-tissue" injury.

 

Shoulder is chronically injured technically. But the shoulder will be surgically repaired, and he won't be chronically injured. He's also NOT 28 quite yet and will play 3/4 of next season at 28, so "already 28" is a little misleading also.

However you slice it he's not young nor an anchor to depend on.

 

The line is garbage.

 

Yeah, not true. He's in his prime for a lineman, a position in which guys can play at a high level later in age moreso than any position along w/ QB.

 

The line overall is probably average to slightly below, not garbage. And it's also not the primary reason the offense isn't good enough.

[raw]

The Bears offensive starter this week with the most games as a Bear..... Charles Leno.

[SpongeWorthy]

goony is a cutler apologist. the line is middle of the pack not a dumpster fire. when healthy it could be a top 10 unit with the same exact personnel.

[WrigleyField 22]

goony is a cutler apologist. the line is middle of the pack not a dumpster fire. when healthy it could be a top 10 unit with the same exact personnel.

Eh, I think it would need at least one tackle upgrade, like raw said.

[jersey cubs fan]

goony is a cutler apologist. the line is middle of the pack not a dumpster fire. when healthy it could be a top 10 unit with the same exact personnel.

I have been a cutler apologist. Not sure what that has to do with the fact that the line is garbage, is not healthy and isn't going to become magically healthy any time soon. People turned a blind eye to the fact that they do not have viable tackles just because the middle was theoretically solid, but they lost all the up the middle depth in the offseason and the one good lineman has been injured since training camp, and probably going back to the end of last season. You can't have a top 10 unit without outstanding tackles, let alone with bad ones, and the Bears tackles are bad.

[jersey cubs fan]

Just watching what dak prescott has to work with in Dallas makes me fear what would happen if/when the Bears ever bring in a similar player. Elite pass catchers, elite RB and elite offensive line really makes the difference in how a QB can handle his introduction to the league. There's not an elite body on that side of the ball for the Bears and the groups in total peak at above average. Howard has been solid, but he lacks the homerun capability that affects defenses. Jeffery has always shown flashes but he's yet to really break out as an elite guy and the rest of the group is a huge question mark. The offense is a complete mess and some rookie QB isn't going to be able to turn things around. How many good teams are being led by top 3 pick QBs these days?

 

The vast QB wasteland is a real thing, but so is the top 3 pick was a QB and 2 years later we still suck wasteland. You can't lock onto a QB at the top of the draft mentality, especially when nobody looks to be a lock for that type of pick. Teams can score on 2nd round QBs, and your best chance of making that QB good is making your team good. And this team isn't one QB away.

[raw]

Bears best play is to throw deep and make the other team interfere.

[Outshined_One]

Can't wait for Cutler to return next week and tear his rotator cuff on a horrific sack/fumble.

[davell]