10/22 Cubs (Hendricks) vs Dodgers (Kershaw) 7 p.m., FS1

[imb]

a little surprised how much fresh seeming 2003 baggage there still is for some of you guys.

 

i watched and lived it. i was pulling up yankees tickets and mapquesting the drive. it was awful. but it's so far gone from my consciousness about this team.

 

i actually even liked the 30 for 30 on it.

 

not a single moment of that lingers with me. I think it helps in a way that Wood and Prior both died after that, because i feel so disconnected from that team at this point that i couldn't care less what happened then. I was even thinking last night that if the cubs do the remarkable and win the world series this year, ill be glad that it's this year's team that did it and not that year's team.

[minnesotacubsfan]

2008 honestly crushed me more. all my angst about everything about the playoffs stems from 07-08.

 

 

If 2003 doesn't sit burning in your memory banks, you either 1)aren't a Cubs fan 2)didn't witness it 3)aren't human

 

 

2008 sucked but comon

[David]

a little surprised how much fresh seeming 2003 baggage there still is for some of you guys.

 

i watched and lived it. i was pulling up yankees tickets and mapquesting the drive. it was awful. but it's so far gone from my consciousness about this team.

 

i actually even liked the 30 for 30 on it.

 

not a single moment of that lingers with me. I think it helps in a way that Wood and Prior both died after that, because i feel so disconnected from that team at this point that i couldn't care less what happened then. I was even thinking last night that if the cubs do the remarkable and win the world series this year, ill be glad that it's this year's team that did it and not that year's team.

 

yep. i totally agree. i think how much i hate dusty is also related.

[Banedon]

2008 honestly crushed me more. all my angst about everything about the playoffs stems from 07-08.

 

 

If 2003 doesn't sit burning in your memory banks, you either 1)aren't a Cubs fan 2)didn't witness it 3)aren't human

 

It was 13 years ago. I think it's perfectly ok to let it go.

[David]

2008 honestly crushed me more. all my angst about everything about the playoffs stems from 07-08.

 

 

If 2003 doesn't sit burning in your memory banks, you either 1)aren't a Cubs fan 2)didn't witness it 3)aren't human

 

 

2008 sucked but comon

 

in 2003 we rode the playoff luck wave and beat one way better team and almost beat a second better team...and it was really close so that sucked. but my expectations in 08 were way higher, and the outcome was way worse.

 

i've always been the type anyway that would rather get to the dance and get my ass kicked than not make it at all.

[KingCubsFan]

Let's not forget Rizzo's glenallen hill foul ball

True, forgot about that one.

[minnesotacubsfan]

2008 honestly crushed me more. all my angst about everything about the playoffs stems from 07-08.

 

 

If 2003 doesn't sit burning in your memory banks, you either 1)aren't a Cubs fan 2)didn't witness it 3)aren't human

 

It was 13 years ago. I think it's perfectly ok to let it go.

 

 

I'm not saying I haven't let go of it, but there's no way I look back on it with fondness. And to compare the disappointment of 2008 to being 5 outs away is a bit crazy honestly.

 

It was hell, but we survived.

[minnesotacubsfan]

To me, being in the moment: 2008 was just "horsefeathers baseball". 2003 was "horsefeathers life"

[David]

all that lingers with me from 2003 are the happy things. wood practically winning the NLDS on his own. going to game 5 in atlanta and watching them close out a series easily. the insane sammy HR off urbina in game 1. the insane game 2 and the HR sammy hit to the camera shed that lofton could not believe. the aramis grand slam. even the wood HR in game 7. i have very little pain left associated with that year. just annoyance at the bartman nonsense that always comes up.

 

that was a lot more fun than getting my heart ripped out immediately and swiftly in 08. (and i still look back on 08 fondly - just referring to their respective playoff runs)

[minnesotacubsfan]

Oh man. We are so different :)

[Old Style]

Cubs are on the verge of winning the pennant and you guys are talking about '03?

That's because it's all the national media idiots and non-Cub fans can talk about right now. I almost want to watch Game 6 in a bar with no sound so I don't have to hear Joe horsefeathers opine endlessly about Steve horsefeathering Bartman.

[UMFan83]

all that lingers with me from 2003 are the happy things. wood practically winning the NLDS on his own. going to game 5 in atlanta and watching them close out a series easily. the insane sammy HR off urbina in game 1. the insane game 2 and the HR sammy hit to the camera shed that lofton could not believe. the aramis grand slam. even the wood HR in game 7. i have very little pain left associated with that year. just annoyance at the bartman nonsense that always comes up.

 

that was a lot more fun than getting my heart ripped out immediately and swiftly in 08. (and i still look back on 08 fondly - just referring to their respective playoff runs)

 

Yeah I am 100% over 2003 and have been for a long while. I can read articles, rewatch the most painful moments and it has no effect on me.

[Banedon]

I remember the Kerry Wood homer most about 2003. The rest of it, good and bad are all very fuzzy.

[David]

anyone have any theories as to why we haven't seen the crazy crowds around wrigley that we saw in 03? it's not like those people were out on sheffield and waveland just to ballhawk, and they obviously couldn't see horsefeathers.

[David]

I remember the Kerry Wood homer most about 2003. The rest of it, good and bad are all very fuzzy.

 

mostly the sammy stuff for me

[minnesotacubsfan]

All I remember about 2008 was thinking about how the team was a bunch of choking dogs

 

I remember pain in 2003.

[Banedon]

anyone have any theories as to why we haven't seen the crazy crowds around wrigley that we saw in 03? it's not like those people were out on sheffield and waveland just to ballhawk, and they obviously couldn't see horsefeathers.

 

Do balls just not get to the streets as often thanks to bleacher expansion?

[Old Style]

I remember the Kerry Wood homer most about 2003. The rest of it, good and bad are all very fuzzy.

My dad had to be rushed to the ER right before Game 7 started. He wouldn't let me go with him because of the game. His excuse was that he needed me to text game updates to my sister so he could know what was going on while his life was hanging in the balance. He was the biggest Cub fan I ever met and it kills me that he passed before he could see the fruits of the Theo/Hoyer regime. Winning the WS without him will be bittersweet for me whenever that happens.

Edited October 21, 2016 by Old Style

[David]

anyone have any theories as to why we haven't seen the crazy crowds around wrigley that we saw in 03? it's not like those people were out on sheffield and waveland just to ballhawk, and they obviously couldn't see horsefeathers.

 

Do balls just not get to the streets as often thanks to bleacher expansion?

 

the expansion and the boards i think have really cooled that. but, again, those people were seemingly there just to be there.

[ScrubMD]

03 took us so high and threw us down so hard. 07 and 08 were pretty much just tripping over our feet and then getting stepped on. Both methods are uniquely awful, but to me 03 was much more painful. Many more awesome moments, but it's difficult to separate those from the dick punch.

[minnesotacubsfan]

anyone have any theories as to why we haven't seen the crazy crowds around wrigley that we saw in 03? it's not like those people were out on sheffield and waveland just to ballhawk, and they obviously couldn't see horsefeathers.

 

Do balls just not get to the streets as often thanks to bleacher expansion?

 

the expansion and the boards i think have really cooled that. but, again, those people were seemingly there just to be there.

 

Seems to me they were there to catch home runs. For free.

[David]

 

Do balls just not get to the streets as often thanks to bleacher expansion?

 

the expansion and the boards i think have really cooled that. but, again, those people were seemingly there just to be there.

 

Seems to me they were there to catch home runs. For free.

 

you think that a few hundred people were there so they might get a chance to catch a home run if one went on the street?

[Banedon]

 

the expansion and the boards i think have really cooled that. but, again, those people were seemingly there just to be there.

 

Seems to me they were there to catch home runs. For free.

 

you think that a few hundred people were there so they might get a chance to catch a home run if one went on the street?

 

What other reason would there be?

[Omar]

 

Seems to me they were there to catch home runs. For free.

 

you think that a few hundred people were there so they might get a chance to catch a home run if one went on the street?

 

What other reason would there be?

 

The atmosphere, potential to get drunk and celebrate

[David]

 

you think that a few hundred people were there so they might get a chance to catch a home run if one went on the street?

 

What other reason would there be?

 

The atmosphere, potential to get drunk and celebrate

 

exactly