2016 Magic Number Thread

[Omar]

lets be honest. at this point, we should +11 to the magic number.

[David]

i guess the main thing that bothers me about the uproar over the all star game HFA thing is that i don't remember there being any uproar before, when something somehow even dumber (even/odd year) determined it. it's not that i disagree that it's dumb. it's that it's always been dumb and nobody seemed to care or notice before.

[jersey cubs fan]

i guess the main thing that bothers me about the uproar over the all star game HFA thing is that i don't remember there being any uproar before, when something somehow even dumber (even/odd year) determined it. it's not that i disagree that it's dumb. it's that it's always been dumb and nobody seemed to care or notice before.

amen brother

 

people who get all worked up about the asg / hfa thing just want to complain about something

 

there's no actual good way

 

 

Just don't let whether or not you have lights determine hfa (yes I know that is a myth)

[Liam Neeson]

i guess the main thing that bothers me about the uproar over the all star game HFA thing is that i don't remember there being any uproar before, when something somehow even dumber (even/odd year) determined it. it's not that i disagree that it's dumb. it's that it's always been dumb and nobody seemed to care or notice before.

 

It was dumb but at least alternating was fair and that's likely why no one raised a fuss before.

 

My gripe is that the ASG should be 100% about the players and not about the outcome of the game.

[David]

i guess the main thing that bothers me about the uproar over the all star game HFA thing is that i don't remember there being any uproar before, when something somehow even dumber (even/odd year) determined it. it's not that i disagree that it's dumb. it's that it's always been dumb and nobody seemed to care or notice before.

 

It was dumb but at least alternating was fair and that's likely why no one raised a fuss before.

 

My gripe is that the ASG should be 100% about the players and not about the outcome of the game.

How was it fair? A given year's league champion had no control over whether they were good in an odd year or even year. Just because the selection alternates evenly doesn't really make it fair in any practical sense.

 

At least, with the current system, that team would have something resembling a fifty fifty chance in any given year. Materially, though, it's not much of a difference either way.

[Liam Neeson]

i guess the main thing that bothers me about the uproar over the all star game HFA thing is that i don't remember there being any uproar before, when something somehow even dumber (even/odd year) determined it. it's not that i disagree that it's dumb. it's that it's always been dumb and nobody seemed to care or notice before.

 

It was dumb but at least alternating was fair and that's likely why no one raised a fuss before.

 

My gripe is that the ASG should be 100% about the players and not about the outcome of the game.

How was it fair? A given year's league champion had no control over whether they were good in an odd year or even year. Just because the selection alternates evenly doesn't really make it fair in any practical sense.

 

At least, with the current system, that team would have something resembling a fifty fifty chance in any given year. Materially, though, it's not much of a difference either way.

 

Its fair like how a weekend visitation schedule is fair.

[Old Style]

Technically, the Cubs have a magic number for each opponent, so here they are down the line:

 

Team          #
----------------
Rangers       29
Nationals     29
Indians       28
Blue Jays     26
Dodgers       26
Red Sox       26
Orioles       25
Giants        24
Tigers        23
Cardinals     23
Mariners      22
Marlins       21
Royals        21
Astros        21
Yankees       21
Pirates       21
Mets          19
White Sox     17
Rockies       15
Phillies      14
Brewers       11
Athletics     10
Reds          10
Rays          10
Angels         9
Padres         8
Diamondbacks   7
Twins          4
Braves         1

A magic number for an American League team is completely worthless because we need the All Star game to mean something.

 

It still would've been worthless before the All Star game "meant" anything.

Not if MLB did the right thing and awarded HFA for the World Series based off record,

 

(cue the unbalanced schedule argument)

[Guancous]

Using each league's interleague record seems like a natural solution.

 

The record for the whole league will hopefully mitigate some of the rivalry issues of individual teams.

[BigSlick]

With interleague and a relative competitive balance between leagues (it obviously changes year to year but not by much) just make the best record in MLB the home field owner. It at least gives a carrot to teams that have pretty much secured their spot to stay competitive in September. Isn't that what MLB wants for viewers to keep watching? (A month of games vs one All Star game)

[Derwood]

The schedule is unbalanced in NHL and NBA too and they have no problem with HFA being determined by best record

[David]

Field hockey and basketball

[Sammys Boombox]

..

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Braves are eliminated from catching the Cubs!

[Brian]

Insert photo of 2015 Addison Russell here

[TruffleShuffle]

Braves are eliminated from catching the Cubs!

 

[Stu]

i guess the main thing that bothers me about the uproar over the all star game HFA thing is that i don't remember there being any uproar before, when something somehow even dumber (even/odd year) determined it. it's not that i disagree that it's dumb. it's that it's always been dumb and nobody seemed to care or notice before.

 

When I was a kid the ASG was the coolest thing around. There was no inter-league play and little national TV coverage of baseball if you lived outside of a big city market -- it was a chance to see players and match ups you otherwise would never see.

 

Now though, it's slightly more interesting for me than the NBA ASG, and I hate the NBA.

[Sammys Boombox]

http://worldseriesdreaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/SosaNumber-500x320.png

[Omar]

[CaliforniaRaisin]

20

[Ding Dong Johnson]

http://desipio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/corey-patterson.jpg

[Omar]

http://i.imgur.com/sdUzEQq.png

[UMFan83]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5724025e/turbine/ct-matt-szczur-grand-slam-cubs-spt-0430-

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Brent+Lillibridge+Milwaukee+Brewers+v+Chicago+_MCQeQwEQ2Xl.jpg

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anthony+Recker+Chris+Rusin+Chicago+Cubs+v+y3gDDaQxEvgl.jpg (who??)

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UQAAAMXQCgpRwdk5/s-l300.jpg (who could forget HoJo's Cubs stint?)

Edited August 29, 2016 by UMFan83

[David]

damn that was a common number for the theo scrub churn of 2012-14

[BigSlick]

Whole lot of really bad and disappointing Cubs with the number 20, huh

[Banedon]

Didn't Tim specifically ask not to use Getty?