8/9 Angels (Weaver) @ Cubs (Lackey) 7:05 CST WGN

[Clem Fandango]

The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim will send up Jered Weaver to try and take down the Cubs on Tuesday.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jered Weaver's stats look like this:

 

                                                                               
W      L  ERA   G  GS     IP  HR  BB   SO ERA+  FIP  WHIP   H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W
8      8 5.11  21  21  123.1  23  33   64   78 5.42 1.451 10.7 1.7 2.4 4.7 1.94

 

He gives up lots of home runs and runs in general. What a boner.

 

Meanwhile, John Lackey was unable to collect his 206th tooth the last time I started his game thread but that might be because I, for whatever reason, read his statistics completely wrong and just realized he only has 173 teeth, not 205. My bad, John. Sorry for getting your statistics wrong. I didn't mean it! I swear!

 

No! NO! NO JOHN STOP!

 

http://i.imgur.com/vajnmOy.jpg

 

Keep winning, Cubs. For all our sakes, or else Lackey will get you.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

The only bad thing about facing horrible starting pitchers is that we only get to face them for 2 or 3 innings. Weaver would be best off to fake an injury before facing us, unlike Sonny Gray who waited until we were in the midst of laying waste to him.

[Omar]

Cubs v. Weaver

Name            PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
Ben Zobrist     28 27 8  3  1  1   4  1  6 .296 .321 .593  .914  0  0   0   0         0
Dexter Fowler    7  5 0  0  0  0   0  2  3 .000 .286 .000  .286  0  0   0   0         0
Anthony Rizzo    3  2 1  0  0  0   0  1  0 .500 .667 .500 1.167  0  0   0   0         0
Total           38 34 9  3  1  1   4  4  9 .265 .342 .500  .842  0  0   0   0         0
Has not faced: Javier Baez, Kris Bryant, Chris Coghlan, Willson Contreras, Jason Heyward, Miguel Montero, David Ross, Addison Russell, Jorge Soler and Matt Szczur & Has not faced pitchers: Jake Arrieta, Aroldis Chapman, Carl Edwards, Justin Grimm, Kyle Hendricks, John Lackey, Jon Lester, Mike Montgomery, Hector Rondon, Joe Smith, Pedro Strop and Travis Wood

 

Angels v. Lackey

Name                PA AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
Yunel Escobar       37 33 13  4  0  0   5  3  5  .394  .432  .515  .948  0  1   0   0         0
Cliff Pennington    17 16  1  0  0  0   0  0  2  .063  .118  .063  .180  0  0   0   1         0
Albert Pujols        3  3  1  0  0  0   0  0  1  .333  .333  .333  .667  0  0   0   0         0
Mike Trout           3  3  1  0  0  1   1  0  1  .333  .333 1.333 1.667  0  0   0   0         0
Ricky Nolasco        2  2  0  0  0  0   0  0  2  .000  .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Andrelton Simmons    2  2  1  0  0  0   0  0  0  .500  .500  .500 1.000  0  0   0   0         0
Shane Robinson       1  1  1  0  0  0   0  0  0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000  0  0   0   0         0
Total               65 60 18  4  0  1   6  3 11  .300  .338  .417  .755  0  1   0   1         0
Has not faced: Jett Bandy, Kole Calhoun, Ji-Man Choi, Johnny Giavotella, Jefry Marte, Carlos Perez and Gregorio Petit & Has not faced pitchers: Jose Alvarez, Cam Bedrosian, Jhoulys Chacin, Deolis Guerra, Mike Morin, J.C. Ramirez, Fernando Salas, Matt Shoemaker, Tyler Skaggs, Jose Valdez and Jered Weaver

[Derwood]

Angels vs. Weaver?

[Omar]

Monday morning cobwebs

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Angels vs. Weaver?

 

You don't think this is an angel?

 

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0321/chi_cubs_forecast_02.jpg

[UMFan83]

Happy 27th birthday Anthony Rizzo. Now don't get any horsefeathering older.

[Gilby]

I know he makes quite a bit of money and the Angels are really bad, but I can't believe they've actually kept Weaver in the rotation to make 21, soon to be 22, starts. ERA/FIP over 5, K/9 well under 5, avg fastball velocity 82.8 mph!

[UMFan83]

I know he makes quite a bit of money and the Angels are really bad, but I can't believe they've actually kept Weaver in the rotation to make 21, soon to be 22, starts. ERA/FIP over 5, K/9 well under 5, avg fastball velocity 82.8 mph!

 

it makes no sense. He's old (33), he's not under team control beyond this year, he hasn't been good for several years. He totally seems like the kind of guy you DFA and give his starts to pitchers in AAA, even if they aren't highly regarded prospects (see: 2006 Cubs rotation), because whats the point in giving them to Weaver?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This is the team that gave 9 starts to the ghost of Tim Lincecum. Weaver is starting mostly because there is almost literally no one else to do it.

[Agony and Ivy]

I am just really disappointed that we won't get to face Lincecum.

[Cubswin11]

I know he makes quite a bit of money and the Angels are really bad, but I can't believe they've actually kept Weaver in the rotation to make 21, soon to be 22, starts. ERA/FIP over 5, K/9 well under 5, avg fastball velocity 82.8 mph!

 

it makes no sense. He's old (33), he's not under team control beyond this year, he hasn't been good for several years. He totally seems like the kind of guy you DFA and give his starts to pitchers in AAA, even if they aren't highly regarded prospects (see: 2006 Cubs rotation), because whats the point in giving them to Weaver?

I think they literally have no other options internally. They have at least 2 of their young pitchers on the DL with TJS if not more. Their system is garbage and has no one so they need someone to show up every 5 days they can depend on to be healthy. It would be either Weaver or some re-thread like Lincecum already or the Edwin Jackson, Jerome Wiliiams, Kyle Lohse's of the world.

[UMFan83]

This is the team that gave 9 starts to the ghost of Tim Lincecum. Weaver is starting mostly because there is almost literally no one else to do it.

 

They have a AAA team right?

 

I mean the 2006 Cubs gave starts to guys like Marmol, Juan Mateo, Les Walrond, Ryan O'Malley, Jae Kuk Ryu, Wade Miller and Jerome Williams.

 

None of them worked out, but at least they got a good look at Marmol and turned him into a quality reliever. Maybe that would have happened without auditioning him, but it certainly didn't hurt him.

 

Point is that there is absolutely no future with Jered Weaver and the Angels season has long since been lost. I'm sure there's a AAA pitcher that's worth looking at, or a Brian Matusz out there. At least those options have a non-zero chance of impacting the organization in the future.

[UMFan83]

My point still kind of stands but I feel less strongly about it after looking at their AAA roster. Of pitchers who have made 3 starts for the Salt Lake Bees, only 2 of them have an ERA under 4.74. Those pitchers are Lincecum, who failed spectacularly in the bigs and was DFA'd and Tyler Skaggs who is currently in their depleated rotation.

 

The ERAs of the rest of the guys who have made at least 3 starts for them (from most starts to least): 4.74, 7.19, 6.26, 5.24, 6.42, 6.91, 5.92, 15.00

 

What a dumpster fire of an organization.

[Omar]

[Omar]

My point still kind of stands but I feel less strongly about it after looking at their AAA roster. Of pitchers who have made 3 starts for the Salt Lake Bees, only 2 of them have an ERA under 4.74. Those pitchers are Lincecum, who failed spectacularly in the bigs and was DFA'd and Tyler Skaggs who is currently in their depleated rotation.

 

The ERAs of the rest of the guys who have made at least 3 starts for them (from most starts to least): 4.74, 7.19, 6.26, 5.24, 6.42, 6.91, 5.92, 15.00

 

What a dumpster fire of an organization.

 

its okay, they will continue to buy their way to mediocrity every offseason.

[Cubswin11]

My point still kind of stands but I feel less strongly about it after looking at their AAA roster. Of pitchers who have made 3 starts for the Salt Lake Bees, only 2 of them have an ERA under 4.74. Those pitchers are Lincecum, who failed spectacularly in the bigs and was DFA'd and Tyler Skaggs who is currently in their depleated rotation.

 

The ERAs of the rest of the guys who have made at least 3 starts for them (from most starts to least): 4.74, 7.19, 6.26, 5.24, 6.42, 6.91, 5.92, 15.00

 

What a dumpster fire of an organization.

Andrew Heany, Garret Richards, and Nick Tropeano all went down with TJS surgery this year. Those were/are their young guys.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This is the team that gave 9 starts to the ghost of Tim Lincecum. Weaver is starting mostly because there is almost literally no one else to do it.

 

They have a AAA team right?

 

I mean the 2006 Cubs gave starts to guys like Marmol, Juan Mateo, Les Walrond, Ryan O'Malley, Jae Kuk Ryu, Wade Miller and Jerome Williams.

 

None of them worked out, but at least they got a good look at Marmol and turned him into a quality reliever. Maybe that would have happened without auditioning him, but it certainly didn't hurt him.

 

Point is that there is absolutely no future with Jered Weaver and the Angels season has long since been lost. I'm sure there's a AAA pitcher that's worth looking at, or a Brian Matusz out there. At least those options have a non-zero chance of impacting the organization in the future.

 

Salt Lake SP with more than 2 starts this year:

 

- Nate Smith - This is the one person they could call up that would make sense, although he's not really any good

- Skaggs - already in the MLB rotation

- Chris Jones - 27 years old, 7+ ERA in AAA

- Kyle Kendrick - 31 years old, 5+ ERA in AAA, hoping to slightly change his last name to trick a future MLB team into giving him a contract

- Kyle McGowin - 24 years old, 6+ ERA in AAA

- Zach Nuding - 26 years old, 6+ ERA in AAA

- David Huff - 31 years old, near 7 ERA in AAA

- Yunesky Maya - 34 years old, near 6 ERA in AAA

- Blayne Weller - 26 years old, 15.00 ERA

 

 

Now those stats are a little exaggerated because Salt Lake is a hitter's paradise, but I think it makes the point. Right now the Angels rotation is Shoemaker, Skaggs, Nolasco, Weaver, and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Jhoulys Chacin(also a pending FA) already got banished to the pen for being worse than Weaver. There's nothing there.

[Gilby]

I remember Haren talking (tweeting) about how little confidence he had in the last few years because of his velocity. I can't imagine what goes through Weaver's mind when he's topping out at 83 mph. I sure as hell wouldn't walk away from $20 million either, but I'd need a daily appointment with a sports psychologist or something.

[David]

this conversation about the angels being a massive dumpster fire of an organization is taking me back to this fun argument from 2014

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62811&p=3099988&hilit=angels+trout#p3100014

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I almost feel like you're messing with me by saying his fastball velocity is at 83. like you're waiting for me to look it up on the internet and call you out only to have to punch me in the balls and scream "I GOT YOU GOOD, [expletive]"

[David]

i just realized this game is tomorrow and not today. what the horsefeathers.

[mul21]

I almost feel like you're messing with me by saying his fastball velocity is at 83. like you're waiting for me to look it up on the internet and call you out only to have to punch me in the balls and scream "I GOT YOU GOOD, [expletive]"

 

He tops out at around 85, so yeah, he's probably averaging 83 or so. It's insane he's still getting anyone out.

[Sammy Sofa]

this conversation about the angels being a massive dumpster fire of an organization is taking me back to this fun argument from 2014

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62811&p=3099988&hilit=angels+trout#p3100014

 

Huh. I wonder what happened to dew.

[illiniguy]

This is the team that gave 9 starts to the ghost of Tim Lincecum. Weaver is starting mostly because there is almost literally no one else to do it.

 

They have a AAA team right?

 

I mean the 2006 Cubs gave starts to guys like Marmol, Juan Mateo, Les Walrond, Ryan O'Malley, Jae Kuk Ryu, Wade Miller and Jerome Williams.

 

None of them worked out, but at least they got a good look at Marmol and turned him into a quality reliever. Maybe that would have happened without auditioning him, but it certainly didn't hurt him.

 

Point is that there is absolutely no future with Jered Weaver and the Angels season has long since been lost. I'm sure there's a AAA pitcher that's worth looking at, or a Brian Matusz out there. At least those options have a non-zero chance of impacting the organization in the future.

Plus without that rotation, no Josh Vitters. Wait, I did that wrong...