7/3 Cubs (Lester) v. Mets (Syndergaard) 12:10, WGN

[davell]

My theory is Peralta's sweaty fat man BO befouled everyone's senses and we're a step slower.

[ScrubMD]

Ha! Now their pitcher has to lead off next inning. We've got them right where we want them.

[bcl412]

 

i think it's the 2 months of mediocrity and the realization that we don't have a superteam

 

Not playing at a 130 win pace isn't mediocrity. Prior to the Cards series the Cubs had played at a 108 win pace since May 1st, and at a 114 win pace since June 1st.

 

just because the stretches you listed start on the 1st days of the month don't make them less arbitrary than the one i referenced.

 

i really don't think it's making any kind of leap to say that a 26-24 run is a good stretch of mediocrity.

 

even if they play the rest of the season at that pace they still likely make the playoffs and then it's all crapshoot from there anyways.

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Not playing at a 130 win pace isn't mediocrity. Prior to the Cards series the Cubs had played at a 108 win pace since May 1st, and at a 114 win pace since June 1st.

 

just because the stretches you listed start on the 1st days of the month don't make them less arbitrary than the one i referenced.

 

i really don't think it's making any kind of leap to say that a 26-24 run is a good stretch of mediocrity.

 

even if they play the rest of the season at that pace they still likely make the playoffs and then it's all crapshoot from there anyways.

 

where did i say otherwise?

[TruffleShuffle]

in these games where a team is just getting completely blasted early on and is clearly not going to win, i always wondered why a manager wouldn't just put in all his bench players and let some utility infielder just lob meatballs across the plate for the rest of the game. what's the downside, you lose by 50 runs? it's still just one loss. seems preferable to burning out the bullpen by using all of your arms in a game that's lost.

[dfnowak]

Why not work some counts???

[David]

this is just bizarre...what the hell is going on

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

Not playing at a 130 win pace isn't mediocrity. Prior to the Cards series the Cubs had played at a 108 win pace since May 1st, and at a 114 win pace since June 1st.

 

just because the stretches you listed start on the 1st days of the month don't make them less arbitrary than the one i referenced.

 

i really don't think it's making any kind of leap to say that a 26-24 run is a good stretch of mediocrity.

 

Yeah, but six weeks ago we thought we might be good enough to break the crapshoot, so it is fair to be disappointed.

 

even if they play the rest of the season at that pace they still likely make the playoffs and then it's all crapshoot from there anyways.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

i think it's the 2 months of mediocrity and the realization that we don't have a superteam

 

Not playing at a 130 win pace isn't mediocrity. Prior to the Cards series the Cubs had played at a 108 win pace since May 1st, and at a 114 win pace since June 1st.

 

just because the stretches you listed start on the 1st days of the month don't make them less arbitrary than the one i referenced.

 

i really don't think it's making any kind of leap to say that a 26-24 run is a good stretch of mediocrity.

 

Killing everyone for 6 weeks and then having a terrible 2 weeks and calling it a mediocre 2 months is pretty disingenuous. I chose those endpoints to illustrate that it's a slump, and because I didn't want to go further back into April where the Cubs were even better.

 

The Cubs were other worldly in April, elite in May and the first 3 weeks of June, and garbage the last 2 weeks. Trying to imply that they've been less than very good for a super long stretch is fatalism for fatalism's sake.

[bcl412]

 

just because the stretches you listed start on the 1st days of the month don't make them less arbitrary than the one i referenced.

 

i really don't think it's making any kind of leap to say that a 26-24 run is a good stretch of mediocrity.

 

even if they play the rest of the season at that pace they still likely make the playoffs and then it's all crapshoot from there anyways.

 

where did i say otherwise?

 

Not exactly but the with the continuous expression of concern I just wonder what there is really to be concerned about. Unless the crazy losing continues the only thing we've lost is setting win records.

[Thusly Boned]

Why not work some counts???

 

The team seems to have been doing a lot less of that recently, too. Could just be my inner meatball clouding my perception, though.

[Pushfrog98]

this is just bizarre...what the hell is going on

I'm wondering the same thing. The Mets aren't THAT good, that they'd just destroy our pitching like this, are they? Are we tipping pitches? Getting squeezed with the zone?

[halplm]

Um, I missed the first two innings... what happened?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

even if they play the rest of the season at that pace they still likely make the playoffs and then it's all crapshoot from there anyways.

 

where did i say otherwise?

 

Not exactly but the with the continuous expression of concern I just wonder what there is really to be concerned about. Unless the crazy losing continues the only thing we've lost is setting win records.

 

 

If Arrieta has lost the magic and some of our other pitchers show age, it has implications beyond this season.

[Tim]

 

where did i say otherwise?

 

Not exactly but the with the continuous expression of concern I just wonder what there is really to be concerned about. Unless the crazy losing continues the only thing we've lost is setting win records.

 

 

If Arrieta has lost the magic and some of our other pitchers show age, it has implications beyond this season.

I highly recommend reading Aaron's front page article on Arrieta to make you feel better there.

[Sammy Sofa]

Whoa. I thought Kyle was dead.

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Not playing at a 130 win pace isn't mediocrity. Prior to the Cards series the Cubs had played at a 108 win pace since May 1st, and at a 114 win pace since June 1st.

 

just because the stretches you listed start on the 1st days of the month don't make them less arbitrary than the one i referenced.

 

i really don't think it's making any kind of leap to say that a 26-24 run is a good stretch of mediocrity.

 

Killing everyone for 6 weeks and then having a terrible 2 weeks and calling it a mediocre 2 months is pretty disingenuous. I chose those endpoints to illustrate that it's a slump, and because I didn't want to go further back into April where the Cubs were even better.

 

The Cubs were other worldly in April, elite in May and the first 3 weeks of June, and garbage the last 2 weeks. Trying to imply that they've been less than very good for a super long stretch is fatalism for fatalism's sake.

 

you're still just choosing the way you want to split up the season. i don't understand how you can realistically argue that a 26-24 run isn't a long stretch of mediocrity by picking out smaller sample sizes in the middle of it.

 

i get it. it's annoying when fans are constantly fatalistic with sports, especially when the team is at legitimately good as this one. that doesn't mean you have to take it to the other extreme.

[bcl412]

 

where did i say otherwise?

 

Not exactly but the with the continuous expression of concern I just wonder what there is really to be concerned about. Unless the crazy losing continues the only thing we've lost is setting win records.

 

 

If Arrieta has lost the magic and some of our other pitchers show age, it has implications beyond this season.

 

Yeah, I don't think that's where any of the frustration that's being expressed is focused.

[David]

this is just bizarre...what the hell is going on

I'm wondering the same thing. The Mets aren't THAT good, that they'd just destroy our pitching like this, are they? Are we tipping pitches? Getting squeezed with the zone?

 

the mets are almost the opposite of being THAT good...especially right now offensively.

 

this is as weird as that crazy reds game in cincinatti except twice in 4 games. stupid baseball (not as in cubs are playing stupid baseball, as in baseball is stupid)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Whoa. I thought Kyle was dead.

 

I was hiding in the GoT thread until there was something t to complain about.

[Thusly Boned]

this is just bizarre...what the hell is going on

I'm wondering the same thing. The Mets aren't THAT good, that they'd just destroy our pitching like this, are they? Are we tipping pitches? Getting squeezed with the zone?

 

All I can attribute this to is it being a confluence of unfortunate circumstances. The Mets' offense is nowhere near this good, the Cubs' pitching is nowhere near this bad (well, the bullpen might be), and the Mets' pitching is pretty good. Definitely a heavy dash of babip today, too (and on that go ahead hit last night, ffs). Pretty much just a horsefeathers sandwich.

[Thusly Boned]

And of course, my MLB.tv is stuttering and sputtering, just to add a touch of extra aggravation.

[TruffleShuffle]

Um, I missed the first two innings... what happened?

 

lester was trying to get people to spend more time with their family and friends on this holiday weekend. YOU'RE WELCOME

[Transmogrified Tiger]

you're still just choosing the way you want to split up the season. i don't understand how you can realistically argue that a 26-24 run isn't a long stretch of mediocrity by picking out smaller sample sizes in the middle of it.

 

i get it. it's annoying when fans are constantly fatalistic with sports, especially when the team is at legitimately good as this one. that doesn't mean you have to take it to the other extreme.

 

 

I'm arguing against the implications being made by claiming the team has been mediocre for months-long stretches. In a literal sense have they been average for that stretch? Yes, and they still have a stranglehold on the division and the best record in baseball. Since I know that stretch is almost exclusively driven by a horrible two weeks, I'm not going to extrapolate that performance for the rest of the season and worry about them losing the division lead or even keeping home field in the NLCS. So while the losing is aggravating(especially to the Mets), I'm not going to make it more than that, a short lived aggravation in a long and successful season.

[Derwood]

So Hammel and Lester both have the worst outings of their lives in the same series? Whole team is swinging at first pitches and not working counts? Sure, I'm not worried