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Ding Dong Johnson

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I just found out that an old high school classmate has severe liver failure, due to drinking vodka while undergoing treatment for a brain tumor the past couple of years. He's about 6'2" and now weighs 105 pounds and his yellow skin is nearly gold. So it just goes to show you...
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You could put me in a double-blind test with top shelf vodka and Skol, and I would be able to tell them apart 100% of the time. I will bet you ANY amount of money.

They have literally done this exact double blind test many times and shown that for the majority of people, this simply isn't true. And for the ones who can tell a slight difference, it is only on the first drink, if taken neat, when their taste buds are sharpest, and if they're comparing a top shelf to the absolute lowest of the low quality. After one vodka, or if the vodka is mixed with anything at all, or if it's served cold, or if you're comparing to more middling brands...the results are the same as it would be with random guessing. I've drunk about 9 million gallons of vodka in my life, and I would absolutely agree. Get yourself a $15 bottle of vodka. It's just as good and you'll save a lot of money.

I'm telling you with certainty that I could I could tell the difference on my 1st, 3rd, or 18th drink. While I'm eating an italian beef.

 

I will admit that I could only do this when comparing top shelf to bottom shelf, though. I'm not going to claim that I can tell the difference between Belvidere and Grey Goose with 100% accuracy.

 

This is a graph plotting vodka ratings (again, blind tests by an array of professional tasters) against the corresponding prices:

 

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Cloudstrife219/vodka_quality_b_zpsw2ly0uuy.png

 

That's zero correlation. There is, as you say, a "spectrum of quality", but it has no positive correlation with cost whatsoever. $10, $60, doesn't matter.

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So are you folks at least in agreement with me that top shelf tastes better and gives you less severe hangovers? Seems like the "quality of the buzz" issue is the only thing we are hung up on.

 

This is how I tend to see it, though it's possible I'm completely operating on bias as far as the severity of hangover stuff.

 

Usually if I hydrate well, I avoid bad hangovers. If I don't, I get bad hangovers. How much of a role the quality of it plays I can't really say much on beyond my anecdotal belief that it might be better with good liquor.

 

My last trip the bar was a Corona every hour for the first three hours, which is my general casual gotta drive home pace, then 6 shots of Tullamadoo as my buddy calls it in a matter of 30 minutes, more commonly known as Tullamore Dew. Call my wife to come and get me. It gets scary when everyone feels the need to buy a round. The beers also start going down a lot quicker during this shot frenzy, of course.

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Yeah, I just kind of jumped in here. I already assumed it was the adjuncts. Since I mostly drink unfiltered, I always assumed the type of yeast plays a role since some beers wreck my stomach and others are fine.

I have actually been considering the possibility that I might be allergic to hops. I have a feeling that dietary sensitivities play a role in how certain booze affects people individually.

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Yeah, I just kind of jumped in here. I already assumed it was the adjuncts. Since I mostly drink unfiltered, I always assumed the type of yeast plays a role since some beers wreck my stomach and others are fine.

I have actually been considering the possibility that I might be allergic to hops. I have a feeling that dietary sensitivities play a role in how certain booze affects people individually.

 

 

How so? I thought I was allergic to hops a couple years ago cuz I was feeling weird after drinking craft beers and getting hives. It ended up being a pre cursor to me having gout.

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I have actually been considering the possibility that I might be allergic to hops.

Would you say it's more of an energetic allergy, or kind of a smoother, mellower one?

 

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They have literally done this exact double blind test many times and shown that for the majority of people, this simply isn't true. And for the ones who can tell a slight difference, it is only on the first drink, if taken neat, when their taste buds are sharpest, and if they're comparing a top shelf to the absolute lowest of the low quality. After one vodka, or if the vodka is mixed with anything at all, or if it's served cold, or if you're comparing to more middling brands...the results are the same as it would be with random guessing. I've drunk about 9 million gallons of vodka in my life, and I would absolutely agree. Get yourself a $15 bottle of vodka. It's just as good and you'll save a lot of money.

I'm telling you with certainty that I could I could tell the difference on my 1st, 3rd, or 18th drink. While I'm eating an italian beef.

 

I will admit that I could only do this when comparing top shelf to bottom shelf, though. I'm not going to claim that I can tell the difference between Belvidere and Grey Goose with 100% accuracy.

 

This is a graph plotting vodka ratings (again, blind tests by an array of professional tasters) against the corresponding prices:

 

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Cloudstrife219/vodka_quality_b_zpsw2ly0uuy.png

 

That's zero correlation. There is, as you say, a "spectrum of quality", but it has no positive correlation with cost whatsoever. $10, $60, doesn't matter.

There is loose correlation. The cheap vodkas on that chart that were rated highly are not available at most stores, at least in this part of the country. When I walk into a grocery store, there is nothing I can buy for $10 or $13 or whatever that compares to top shelf. Most places are going to have the real cheap nasty stuff like Skol for $7-$8, then some mid level stuff like Smirnoff in the $10-15 range, then you're gonna have Goose, Belvedere, etc. I wouldn't call that zero correlation. The fact that some small distillery in Idaho or someplace sells a really good vodka for $13 has no effect on my life.

 

But, like I said before, my favorite vodka is not the most expensive, so I totally get you on that note.

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I...like vodka

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The water in the Gatorade I just had hydrated me differently than the water in the green tea I had earlier.

 

Actually, it probably did because of the diuretic effect of the caffeine in the green tea.

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Yes, that's the point.

 

The water in both is just water and does water things; other ingredients do other things.

 

But the alcohol is really the only thing doing the intoxicating (or BY FAR the primary thing...I concede that there may be some other ingredients interacting, but I'd say any effect there would be marginal at best), so suggesting that this alcohol intoxicates differently than that alcohol isn't really the same.

 

"Hey, this expensive top shelf liquor makes me a smoother and more sophisticated type of drunk than that other cheap one," is one of the craziest/silliest things I've read in a while.

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