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[Thusly Boned]

Any compelling evidence on the subject indicates that expectancy, mood and other psychosocial and psychosomatic factors are primarily what determines what "type" of drunk a person gets, not the quality (perceived or actual) of the drink. Poorly distilled alcohol can contain impurities like cogeners and non-ethyl alcohols (like methanol, propanol and butanol), and while these are (more) unhealthy, there's no empirical evidence that they affect the "type" of drunkenness in any way (though they may influence hangover).

 

Controlled studies have been conducted where subjects were administered standardized doses of alcohol up to predetermined BAC level, and in these, the subjects have reported wildly different effects and levels of inebriation, almost all of which were consistent with how they expected to be affected. So if you believe that drinking only top shelf will lead to "purer" states of inebriation, then that's probably what you will find to be the case. But there's no compelling evidence to indicate that this is anything but placebo. This is one area where perception and expectation really do shape reality.

 

And as far as quality (ratings, awards and such), data analysis shows that there is almost no correlation with cost (whiskey being a possible exception). So if you're ponying up for premium booze, you've been taken in by marketing, perception and snobbery (this doesn't apply nearly as much to beer, obviously).

You are out of your mind. The fact that most average Joe's on the street can't tell the difference isn't science.

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night, top shelf.

[SouthSideRyan]

I am definitely much more hungover and have far worse headaches if I drink too much crappy beer then if I drink too much craft beer, but I always attributed that to the additives and preservatives in the crappy beer. Not the "quality of the alcohol" or whatever you are trying to say. And drunk is drunk. This isn't beer vs crack

 

I get a worse hangover on crafts.

[Thusly Boned]

For the record, the "ratings and awards" I was referencing were from the San Francisco World Spirits Competition, Wine Enthusiast Magazine, and the Beverage Testing Institute. People whose opinions pale to CubbieSwagger's, I'm sure.

[David]

I am definitely much more hungover and have far worse headaches if I drink too much crappy beer then if I drink too much craft beer, but I always attributed that to the additives and preservatives in the crappy beer. Not the "quality of the alcohol" or whatever you are trying to say. And drunk is drunk. This isn't beer vs crack

 

I get a worse hangover on crafts.

 

Same.

[Cubbie Swagger]

For the record, the "ratings and awards" I was referencing were from the San Francisco World Spirits Competition, Wine Enthusiast Magazine, and the Beverage Testing Institute. People whose opinions pale to CubbieSwagger's, I'm sure.

I will be the first to tell you that there is not always a direct correlation between price and quality. There is plenty of [expletive] marketing and placebo effect involved.

 

For example, I used to drink Grey Goose. Then I realized that Tito's was much better, and only a fraction of the price. So, now I drink Tito's.

 

But, you can't sit here and tell me that you feel exactly the same if you drink Grey Goose or if you drink an $8 bottle. I certainly don't.

Edited April 7, 2016 by Cubbie Swagger

[apete6]

I am definitely much more hungover and have far worse headaches if I drink too much crappy beer then if I drink too much craft beer, but I always attributed that to the additives and preservatives in the crappy beer. Not the "quality of the alcohol" or whatever you are trying to say. And drunk is drunk. This isn't beer vs crack

 

I get a worse hangover on crafts.

 

Same.

 

Same. Probably due to the higher alcohol content and them going down just as smooth, if not smoother, than cheap beer because the crafts taste better.

[Careless]

I definitely get where you guys are coming from, but the quality of the buzz isn't the same. Cheap domestic beer (like the Old Style I drank last night) makes me feel like I got hit in the head with a shovel. It's a more "dirty" buzz and it's like you get more impaired but less euphoria. Not to mention, it also doesn't get you drunk.

 

Honestly, when I'm going out with any serious intent, I don't even bother with beer. When I try to dance with a stomach full of beer, it is not comfortable. Burping, nausea, etc. I also rarely drink beer at Wrigley, because I don't like missing half the game in the bathroom. When I drink top shelf liquor, I can drink like a fish without even slurring my words.

There's zero chance this isn't an artifact of your perception bias.

[Banedon]

But, you can't sit here and tell me that you feel exactly the same if you drink Grey Goose or if you drink an $8 bottle.

 

Can too.

[Careless]

FFS, people, alcohol is alcohol. C2H6O. So you're either getting hangovers from horsefeathering gluten, or it's the alcohol, which is identical to every other alcoholic drink

[Cubbie Swagger]

FFS, people, alcohol is alcohol. C2H6O. So you're either getting hangovers from [expletive] gluten, or it's the alcohol, which is identical to every other alcoholic drink

This is blatantly untrue.

[Cubbie Swagger]

As someone else stated before, different types of alcohol give you different buzzes. Alcohol is not alcohol.

[Tim]

FFS, people, alcohol is alcohol. C2H6O. So you're either getting hangovers from [expletive] gluten, or it's the alcohol, which is identical to every other alcoholic drink

This is blatantly untrue.

Well, yeah, a lot of hangover symptoms are due to dehydration.

[jersey cubs fan]

For the record, the "ratings and awards" I was referencing were from the San Francisco World Spirits Competition, Wine Enthusiast Magazine, and the Beverage Testing Institute. People whose opinions pale to CubbieSwagger's, I'm sure.

I will be the first to tell you that there is not always a direct correlation between price and quality. There is plenty of [expletive] marketing and placebo effect involved.

 

For example, I used to drink Grey Goose. Then I realized that Tito's was much better, and only a fraction of the price. So, now I drink Tito's.

 

But, you can't sit here and tell me that you feel exactly the same if you drink Grey Goose or if you drink an $8 bottle. I certainly don't.

You didn't realize Tito's was much better, you convinced yourself it was much better.

 

Either way it's horsefeathering vodka.

[Careless]

As someone else stated before, different types of alcohol give you different buzzes. Alcohol is not alcohol.

Again, C2H6O. Alcohol is alcohol.

[jersey cubs fan]

the beer before liquor axiom is definitely an issue for me. But that's usually because it means I drink 8-15 beers in some sort of pregame scenario, some whiskey, then wine at dinner and some jackass forces shots on me later.

[Careless]

FFS, people, alcohol is alcohol. C2H6O. So you're either getting hangovers from [expletive] gluten, or it's the alcohol, which is identical to every other alcoholic drink

This is blatantly untrue.

Well, yeah, a lot of hangover symptoms are due to dehydration.

 

Which is caused by C2H6O, which affects the DHA. Again, it's just the alcohol, which is completely identical no matter what you're drinking, unless you horsefeathers up and drink methanol

Edited April 7, 2016 by Careless

[Cubbie Swagger]

As someone else stated before, different types of alcohol give you different buzzes. Alcohol is not alcohol.

Again, C2H6O. Alcohol is alcohol.

Again, you are wrong.

[Cubbie Swagger]

If alcohol is alcohol, then what is the point of aging whiskey? Is a $200 bottle the same as Jack Daniels?

[Careless]

As someone else stated before, different types of alcohol give you different buzzes. Alcohol is not alcohol.

Again, C2H6O. Alcohol is alcohol.

Again, you are wrong.

Aside from being completely incorrect, I guess you're correct.

[Careless]

If alcohol is alcohol, then what is the point of aging whiskey? Is a $200 bottle the same as Jack Daniels?

Because it changes the non-alcohol components of the whiskey. What a moronic question

[jersey cubs fan]

If alcohol is alcohol, then what is the point of aging whiskey? Is a $200 bottle the same as Jack Daniels?

flavor

[Banedon]

Again, C2H6O. Alcohol is alcohol.

Again, you are wrong.

Aside from being completely incorrect, I guess you're correct.

 

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[SouthSideRyan]

For the record, the "ratings and awards" I was referencing were from the San Francisco World Spirits Competition, Wine Enthusiast Magazine, and the Beverage Testing Institute. People whose opinions pale to CubbieSwagger's, I'm sure.

I will be the first to tell you that there is not always a direct correlation between price and quality. There is plenty of [expletive] marketing and placebo effect involved.

 

For example, I used to drink Grey Goose. Then I realized that Tito's was much better, and only a fraction of the price. So, now I drink Tito's.

 

But, you can't sit here and tell me that you feel exactly the same if you drink Grey Goose or if you drink an $8 bottle. I certainly don't.

You didn't realize Tito's was much better, you convinced yourself it was much better.

 

Either way it's [expletive] vodka.

 

He realized it was much better once this bad boy started getting put on the bottle.

[SouthSideRyan]

This is blatantly untrue.

Well, yeah, a lot of hangover symptoms are due to dehydration.

 

Which is caused by C2H6O, which affects the DHA. Again, it's just the alcohol, which is completely identical no matter what you're drinking, unless you [expletive] up and drink methanol

 

Why should it matter if you're drinking methanol? Alcohol is alcohol.

[jersey cubs fan]

I mean, cheap domestics will mess me up more because I might drink a 30 pack of coors light on a Saturday. While I'm not chugging much more than a dozen of some tasty stout.

 

Similarly, a bottle of don julio 1942 will last me a couple months but some cheap ass booze will only be purchased for quick intake of large quantities.

 

It's not the quality of the booze that determines how much is messes you up. It's the willingness/ability to drink it irresponsibly and aggressively.