7/22 Cubs (Hendricks) @ Reds (Leake) 11:35AM CST ABC7

[Guest]

Has anyone been able to find the passage in the MLB rulebook about where the first baseman needs to be in relation to the base to receive a pickoff throw?

 

This is all the rules say.

 

The pitcher, while touching his plate, throws, or feints a

throw to an unoccupied base, except for the purpose of

making a play;

 

Comment: When

determining whether the pitcher throws or feints a throw to an

unoccupied base for the purpose of making a play, the umpire

should consider whether a runner on the previous base demonstrates

or otherwise creates an impression of his intent to

advance to such unoccupied base.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

watching gamecast,why did joe get ejected?

 

They called a balk because Rizzo was moving towards the plate(to field a potential bunt) when Hendricks started a pickoff throw, and therefore was throwing to an unoccupied base, even though Rizzo was back at the base by the time the throw got there. In the most charitable interpretation the ump is calling something that is against the spirit of the rule and never called in practice, in the more likely interpretation he straight up blew the call and rang up Maddon out of partial embarrassment.

 

I've seen it called in high school and lower from time to time, but usually in a much more blatantly unoccupied base fashion. Never when the 1b was only a step or two in front. I agree, the umpire overreacted and called something that shouldn't have and then issued the ejection because he did not want to be called out on it. It was bush league and if the kid can't handle himself better, he needs to go back to umpiring high school ball.

[Gilby]

Has anyone been able to find the passage in the MLB rulebook about where the first baseman needs to be in relation to the base to receive a pickoff throw?

 

It's in there, but it's meant for when there's runners on first and second base, the first baseman is behind the runner, and the pitcher forgets and turns to pick off and he throws it to the first baseman nowhere near the base. It's not meant for when the first baseman is a few feet away from the base when the pitcher turns and is on the base when he receives the ball.

[Guest]

Has anyone been able to find the passage in the MLB rulebook about where the first baseman needs to be in relation to the base to receive a pickoff throw?

 

It's in there, but it's meant for when there's runners on first and second base, the first baseman is behind the runner, and the pitcher forgets and turns to pick off and he throws it to the first baseman nowhere near the base. It's not meant for when the first baseman is a few feet away from the base when the pitcher turns and is on the base when he receives the ball.

 

Right, the spirit of the rule is not to call a balk when the first baseman is holding a runner on then steps towards the plate before moving back to the base to catch the throw. Textbook umpshow.

[Schwarber Fan]

Obviously that goes.

[Ski]

Whelp, time to hope for a big late clutch hit, and Schwarber only occupies one ninth of the lineup.

 

For the 45th straight game, I request that the rest of the offense get its [expletive] together.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Has anyone been able to find the passage in the MLB rulebook about where the first baseman needs to be in relation to the base to receive a pickoff throw?

 

This is all the rules say.

 

The pitcher, while touching his plate, throws, or feints a

throw to an unoccupied base, except for the purpose of

making a play;

 

Comment: When

determining whether the pitcher throws or feints a throw to an

unoccupied base for the purpose of making a play, the umpire

should consider whether a runner on the previous base demonstrates

or otherwise creates an impression of his intent to

advance to such unoccupied base.

Isn't "unoccupied base" there referring to a base that is not occupied by a runner? I don't see anything specifically stating that the base must be occupied by a fielder or what defines a fielder occupying the base.

[sontensei]

Beeler in game 2?! aw sh!@#!@#!@t

[Ski]

Lulz, only one reaction to the home run by Votto. I guess everyone is just sick of the Cubs consistently being the ones on the losing end of easy wins.

[ARCubsFan]

Really they're a Schwarber away from facing a 4 game sweep to the Reds

[Schwarber Fan]

I'm sick of this stupid park.

[Gilby]

lol, 1200 feet worth of outs from Rizzo, Bryant, and Schwarber today Edited July 22, 2015 by Gilby

[Guest]

Lulz, only one reaction to the home run by Votto. I guess everyone is just sick of the Cubs consistently being the ones on the losing end of easy wins.

 

or, you know, it's 1pm on wednesday

[UMFan83]

Really they're a Schwarber away from facing a 4 game sweep to the Reds

 

Or a Grimm away from looking to win the series tonight

 

http://www.premiersportpsychology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/half-full-glass.jpg

[Ski]

Really they're a Schwarber away from facing a 4 game sweep to the Reds

 

Or a Grimm away from looking to win the series tonight

 

http://www.premiersportpsychology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/half-full-glass.jpg

Three meatballs away from being 14 games over .500.

[ARCubsFan]

Really they're a Schwarber away from facing a 4 game sweep to the Reds

 

Or a Grimm away from looking to win the series tonight

 

http://www.premiersportpsychology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/half-full-glass.jpg

Three meatballs away from being 14 games over .500.

And the Mets away from being .500 exactly

[Sammys Boombox]

The "occupied base" is in regards to the runner. The pitcher has to throw "to the base." Therefore, a fielder has to be at the base if he doesn't step off. In other words, the pitcher can't be in contact with the plate and turn around and throw it to the second baseman who is halfway between first and second. He has to step off first to do that. It's ridiculous to be used in this case.

 

It also brings up the classic argument of why can't a pitcher with a runner on first, 2 outs, 3-2 do an inside move to second base? The rules state that second is an unoccupied base, BUT that you can throw to an unoccupied base (second) to make a play - runner is stealing second.

Edited July 22, 2015 by Sammy's Boombox

[Banedon]

Really they're a Schwarber away from facing a 4 game sweep to the Reds

 

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[sontensei]

yeah i dont think schwarber is playing game 2 so

[Ski]

Really they're a Schwarber away from facing a 4 game sweep to the Reds

 

Or a Grimm away from looking to win the series tonight

 

http://www.premiersportpsychology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/half-full-glass.jpg

Three meatballs away from being 14 games over .500.

And the Mets away from being .500 exactly

So what you're saying is that the baseball season is long and full of positive and negative [expletive]?

 

Get your reason out of here.

[sontensei]

wait a sec so if they go with say wood after hendricks as the long man and the beelers start is a similar outcome who is the long man?

[Andy]

aquarterofaninchtheotherwayandyoudhavemissedcompletely.gif

 

Also, the Google results for "a quarter of an inch the other way" gif are strange.

[ARCubsFan]

Just let David Ross pitch the next 3 innings, pointless to waste the bullpen when the Cubs aren't scoring 4

[Guest]

wait a sec so if they go with say wood after hendricks as the long man and the beelers start is a similar outcome who is the long man?

 

Wood threw more than an inning last night, so there's probably no one who will go 2+ innings today. Which is fine because they have 9 relievers.

 

EDIT: And Hendricks has already thrown 6 innings today.

[Banedon]

Just let David Ross pitch the next 3 innings, pointless to waste the bullpen when the Cubs aren't scoring 4