jon lester pickoff yips thread

[Guest]

you spelled mute wrong

[MWV]

Is there a joke I'm missing?

[beersoakedivy]

you spelled mute wrong

I hope you're joking...it's spelled correctly for the context in which the word was used.

[Banedon]

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[Tracer Bullet]

how quickly the bum classics are forgotten.

[Banedon]

Lester should've tried this against Hamilton.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Px_HL_J8lY

[apete6]

Lester should've tried this against Hamilton.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Px_HL_J8lY

 

That's the Catholic school from my home town. My old coach is now coaching that team. Hahaha.

[Smack]

Lester should've tried this against Hamilton.

 

He would've found a way to score.

[Sammy Sofa]

National broadcasts are the absolute [expletive] worst about stories like this; Kruk and Schilling flat out said they don't know how teams didn't notice Lester not throwing over this year like it was a fact. OF COURSE teams noticed it before this year, you dopes. This isn't some kind of crippling problem that needs to, as they put it, "be handled before the playoffs." Like half of the steals on him this year are courtesy of a single player, so no, I seriously doubt it's something they need to worry about unless Hamilton gets traded to a different team.

[imb]

lester had a grounder hit to him in the reds game and he ran the [expletive] ball all the way to first like that idiot nerd in the sandlot

[sontensei]

the fact that our ace isnt a strikeout pitcher, pretty bad defender, and needs a personal catcher leads me to believe he is not really an ace.

the guy has a track record of winning and is a bulldog out there, but i think Arrieta is the actual ace of the cubs staff right now.

[Clem Fandango]

What exactly is your definition of someone who is a strikeout pitcher? Someone who has more K's than IP? Lester has 5 fewer K's than he does IP and is at 8.4 K/9. There's only 39 pitchers in MLB (22 in the NL) with a K/9 above 8.0. Lester is one of them. He is a strikeout guy.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What exactly is your definition of someone who is a strikeout pitcher? Someone who has more K's than IP? Lester has 5 fewer K's than he does IP and is at 8.4 K/9. There's only 39 pitchers in MLB (22 in the NL) with a K/9 above 8.0. Lester is one of them. He is a strikeout guy.

Don't you dare use facts.

[Gilby]

National broadcasts are the absolute [expletive] worst about stories like this; Kruk and Schilling flat out said they don't know how teams didn't notice Lester not throwing over this year like it was a fact. OF COURSE teams noticed it before this year, you dopes. This isn't some kind of crippling problem that needs to, as they put it, "be handled before the playoffs." Like half of the steals on him this year are courtesy of a single player, so no, I seriously doubt it's something they need to worry about unless Hamilton gets traded to a different team.

 

To me, this is similar to front offices learning about pitch framing about the same time fans did. You'd think Theo would've beaten the general population to that info, but it looks like he caught on about when we did. You'd think other teams would've known about Lester's yips before this season, and maybe some had an idea, but I think it's clearly more well-known and more of an issue now. He went through a long stretch of never throwing to 1st. At least then there was the possibility that he COULD pick someone off and was just doing the whole Maddux thing and not caring. Now, it's clear that he can't. He has two throws this season - a lob that was not on line to the base, and a harder throw that was 30 feet away from Rizzo. He hasn't thrown over since.

 

The meatballs are taking this to the extreme that this now means he's not nearly the pitcher we thought he was. I can't help but think the people who are saying it's no issue at all are just wanting to take the other side. It matters a little. He's still a really good pitcher who, when he's on, doesn't give up many baserunners. And when he does, he's quick to the plate. Those two things help, but it stinks that a fast runner is essentially gifted 3rd base if no one is ahead of him and an OK runner has an easier time sealing 2nd. Whether it's a playoff game or just another game in general, it could have an affect.

Edited June 16, 2015 by Gilby

[Cubswin11]

What exactly is your definition of someone who is a strikeout pitcher? Someone who has more K's than IP? Lester has 5 fewer K's than he does IP and is at 8.4 K/9. There's only 39 pitchers in MLB (22 in the NL) with a K/9 above 8.0. Lester is one of them. He is a strikeout guy.

Yes, but is he elite?

[Guest]

What exactly is your definition of someone who is a strikeout pitcher? Someone who has more K's than IP? Lester has 5 fewer K's than he does IP and is at 8.4 K/9. There's only 39 pitchers in MLB (22 in the NL) with a K/9 above 8.0. Lester is one of them. He is a strikeout guy.

 

he is, however, right that arrieta is our best pitcher and i fully expected that going into the season

 

but yeah, calling lester not a strikeout guy is lol

 

like he's some bulldog getting by on guile and grit

[Clem Fandango]

What exactly is your definition of someone who is a strikeout pitcher? Someone who has more K's than IP? Lester has 5 fewer K's than he does IP and is at 8.4 K/9. There's only 39 pitchers in MLB (22 in the NL) with a K/9 above 8.0. Lester is one of them. He is a strikeout guy.

 

he is, however, right that arrieta is our best pitcher and i fully expected that going into the season

 

One could argue that Jason Hammel qualifies for that title...

 

Arrieta

6-4 3.16 ERA 77.0 IP 83 K 15 BB 122 ERA+ 1.117 WHIP 2.79 FIP 1.2 rWAR 2.0 fWAR

 

Hammel

5-2 2.81 ERA 80.0 IP 80 K 12 BB 136 ERA+ 0.963 WHIP 3.17 FIP 1.6 rWAR 1.5 fWAR

[Guest]

What exactly is your definition of someone who is a strikeout pitcher? Someone who has more K's than IP? Lester has 5 fewer K's than he does IP and is at 8.4 K/9. There's only 39 pitchers in MLB (22 in the NL) with a K/9 above 8.0. Lester is one of them. He is a strikeout guy.

 

he is, however, right that arrieta is our best pitcher and i fully expected that going into the season

 

One could argue that Jason Hammel qualifies for that title...

 

Arrieta

6-4 3.16 ERA 77.0 IP 83 K 15 BB 122 ERA+ 1.117 WHIP 2.79 FIP 1.2 rWAR 2.0 fWAR

 

Hammel

5-2 2.81 ERA 80.0 IP 80 K 12 BB 136 ERA+ 0.963 WHIP 3.17 FIP 1.6 rWAR 1.5 fWAR

 

ehh

 

he's having a better year but i don't think he's actually better

[sontensei]

lester is overrated and got paid alot more than he is worth at his age. :eek:

[Guest]

lester is overrated and got paid alot more than he is worth at his age. :eek:

 

overrated by whom?

 

lester has outperformed his AAV on this contract 5 out of 7 full seasons. he's on his way to doing so this year, too.

 

he's a pitcher and he's 31, so yes, he could drastically decline and/or get hurt. that's what free agents cost. in the sense that most of our everyday spots are filled with young cost controlled players, we have a lot of money to spend and not many places to spend it. why does it matter to you in any way how much of that is allocated to him?

[Clem Fandango]

You realize you're calling him overrated because he had two consecutive bad starts to begin this month, right? And in those two starts the combined BABIP was .485? Did you think he was overrated when he put up a 1.76 ERA for the month of May?

 

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

lester is overrated and got paid alot more than he is worth at his age. :eek:

 

You should start a new thread for that discussion.. 8-[

[sontensei]

No, I started to think he was overrated when it came to light that he #1 cant field his position and #2 requires a washed up catcher

[Bobson Dugnutt]

you should take another break from baseball until his contract is up.

[Banedon]

No, I started to think he was overrated when it came to light that he #1 cant field his position and #2 requires a washed up catcher

 

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