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You can have multiple knee injuries and still be awesome, im sure he'll be fine next year

 

http://i.imgur.com/xs8ZcTw.png

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You can have multiple knee injuries and still be awesome, im sure he'll be fine next year

 

http://i.imgur.com/xs8ZcTw.png

 

I don't expect Rose to be able to recover from injuries like Westbrook. Westbrook has a different mentality. This year for both players has proven that.

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You can have multiple knee injuries and still be awesome, im sure he'll be fine next year

 

http://i.imgur.com/xs8ZcTw.png

 

these numbers are preposterous

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You can have multiple knee injuries and still be awesome, im sure he'll be fine next year

 

http://i.imgur.com/xs8ZcTw.png

 

I don't expect Rose to be able to recover from injuries like Westbrook. Westbrook has a different mentality. This year for both players has proven that.

 

I'm thinking they need to move on from Rose by any means necessary, but this is beyond dumb.

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You can have multiple knee injuries and still be awesome, im sure he'll be fine next year

 

http://i.imgur.com/xs8ZcTw.png

 

I don't expect Rose to be able to recover from injuries like Westbrook. Westbrook has a different mentality. This year for both players has proven that.

 

I'm thinking they need to move on from Rose by any means necessary, but this is beyond dumb.

 

It's not dumb. It's exactly what has happened. Westbrook has come back from multiple injuries and showed the same athleticism he always had. Rose is not the same player and some of that is mental. He doesn't trust his body.

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Or, y'know, he couldn't.

 

It's just absurd from the start to assume they have to play with the same physical issues because at one point they suffered a similar injury.

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Think of it this way: you're THIS close to saying "well, Rose probably/likely/definitely wouldn't have gotten injured if he just had Westbrook's mentality."
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I told my 8yo son yesterday about Rose's injury, which is really the only Bulls player he knows, and he just groaned..."again???"

 

I couldn't help but laugh.

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Think of it this way: you're THIS close to saying "well, Rose probably/likely/definitely wouldn't have gotten injured if he just had Westbrook's mentality."

 

No, not at all. I don't think Rose has Westbrook's mentality when it comes to trusting himself to recover from an injury. Rose sat out the playoffs two years ago and has been pacing himself all season. Those are things he is choosing to do. The injuries themselves were just freak accidents.

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Ideally this would have happend a couple months ago, and the Bulls traded for Rondo. That would've been fun.

Seriously, seriously doubt the Bulls would've trumped Dallas' offer for Rondo. Dallas overpaid.

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Think of it this way: you're THIS close to saying "well, Rose probably/likely/definitely wouldn't have gotten injured if he just had Westbrook's mentality."

 

No, not at all. I don't think Rose has Westbrook's mentality when it comes to trusting himself to recover from an injury. Rose sat out the playoffs two years ago and has been pacing himself all season. Those are things he is choosing to do. The injuries themselves were just freak accidents.

 

If the injuries are freak accidents than what you do in your recovery doesn't mean anything thus mentality is irrelevant.

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Think of it this way: you're THIS close to saying "well, Rose probably/likely/definitely wouldn't have gotten injured if he just had Westbrook's mentality."

 

No, not at all. I don't think Rose has Westbrook's mentality when it comes to trusting himself to recover from an injury. Rose sat out the playoffs two years ago and has been pacing himself all season. Those are things he is choosing to do. The injuries themselves were just freak accidents.

 

If the injuries are freak accidents than what you do in your recovery doesn't mean anything thus mentality is irrelevant.

 

No. When the doctors cleared Westbrook, he played. When the doctors cleared Rose, he sat out for 6 weeks and then the playoffs. I don't think Westbrook would have done that in Rose's shoes and I don't expect Rose to be back this season even if cleared to play.

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Comparing Rose and Westbrook is pointless. Not because of the nature of injuries or types of procedures or anything like that.

 

It's pointless because Derrick is a person and Russ is a bull shark in human form.

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Think of it this way: you're THIS close to saying "well, Rose probably/likely/definitely wouldn't have gotten injured if he just had Westbrook's mentality."

 

No, not at all. I don't think Rose has Westbrook's mentality when it comes to trusting himself to recover from an injury. Rose sat out the playoffs two years ago and has been pacing himself all season. Those are things he is choosing to do. The injuries themselves were just freak accidents.

 

If the injuries are freak accidents than what you do in your recovery doesn't mean anything thus mentality is irrelevant.

 

No. When the doctors cleared Westbrook, he played. When the doctors cleared Rose, he sat out for 6 weeks and then the playoffs. I don't think Westbrook would have done that in Rose's shoes and I don't expect Rose to be back this season even if cleared to play.

 

So, what, if Rose had come back like Westbrook he wouldn't have ended up injured again? You've trapped yourself in a weird little logic loop in your efforts to try and call him out for not playing as hard as you wanted.

 

And you try to dismiss the injuries as freak accidents while criticizing Rose for "not trusting his body." You don't think this many injuries in short order would make someone wary about their body holding up? The guy has seemingly done everything he can to stay in peak physical shape and his body simply keeps failing. We have no idea what differences he and Westbrook felt physically when they started playing again.

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Think of it this way: you're THIS close to saying "well, Rose probably/likely/definitely wouldn't have gotten injured if he just had Westbrook's mentality."

 

No, not at all. I don't think Rose has Westbrook's mentality when it comes to trusting himself to recover from an injury. Rose sat out the playoffs two years ago and has been pacing himself all season. Those are things he is choosing to do. The injuries themselves were just freak accidents.

 

If the injuries are freak accidents than what you do in your recovery doesn't mean anything thus mentality is irrelevant.

 

No. When the doctors cleared Westbrook, he played. When the doctors cleared Rose, he sat out for 6 weeks and then the playoffs. I don't think Westbrook would have done that in Rose's shoes and I don't expect Rose to be back this season even if cleared to play.

 

So, what, if Rose had come back like Westbrook he wouldn't have ended up injured again? You've trapped yourself in a weird little logic loop in your efforts to try and call him out for not playing as hard as you wanted.

 

And you try to dismiss the injuries as freak accidents while criticizing Rose for "not trusting his body." You don't think this many injuries in short order would make someone wary about their body holding up? The guy has seemingly done everything he can to stay in peak physical shape and his body simply keeps failing. We have no idea what differences he and Westbrook felt physically when they started playing again.

 

I never said anything close to if Rose would have come back like Westbrook he wouldn't have gotten hurt again. My point was only if the doctors clear you to play, you play. You can't hurt your knee more by coming back if cleared. Rose's knee was bound to feel off, but you have to go through that to get better. And we have no reason to think Rose is going to play in the playoffs if cleared by the doctors because mentally Rose can't trust himself. His history says so. If he's going to get injured again I don't think playing this year is going to increase those chances.

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4-6 week timetable

 

Gar pretty much made it be known that there would be disappointment if Rose does not return this year.

 

If he doesn't come back, I'm totally on board with cutting him and spreading out the hit over the next five years. And if that makes me a meatball, so be it.

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