8/27 Cubs (Turner) @ Reds (Latos) 6:10 pm CT CSN

[Cubfanintheknow]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

[jersey cubs fan]

Len is a smart guy and has seen more Castro ABs than any of us. Could he possibly be right and our narrative be a bit off?

Well he backed off hard after realizing what he said.

 

Did I miss a tweet? Last thing he posted is that Starlin plays hard but the mental gaffes are a problem. That's not backing off hard IMO.

Well you are bad at twitter then. He's called it a moot point given his total value.

[Guest]

the best part is the idiots like huebner and kaplan who assume that the same things would have happened with castro on second

 

even hollandsworth (remember when we liked him and called him HOLLA? lmao) called him out on that

[dcvalpo]

Len is a smart guy and has seen more Castro ABs than any of us. Could he possibly be right and our narrative be a bit off?

Well he backed off hard after realizing what he said.

 

Did I miss a tweet? Last thing he posted is that Starlin plays hard but the mental gaffes are a problem. That's not backing off hard IMO.

 

You don't think that's backing off given his earlier Tweets?

 

Like I said, I may have missed tweets. First I saw was "look, I like Starlin..."

[jersey cubs fan]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

[dcvalpo]

Len is a smart guy and has seen more Castro ABs than any of us. Could he possibly be right and our narrative be a bit off?

Well he backed off hard after realizing what he said.

 

Did I miss a tweet? Last thing he posted is that Starlin plays hard but the mental gaffes are a problem. That's not backing off hard IMO.

Well you are bad at twitter then. He's called it a moot point given his total value.

 

Ok

[Cubfanintheknow]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

[Sammy Sofa]

Kaplan just has no idea of perspective; everyone was annoyed over what happened, but he has no idea how to express something like that without going off the deep end. Even Hollandsworth seemed put off by it and was defending Castro a couple times after the game.

 

Again, Castro made a mistake. Nobody is saying he's blameless, but Kaplan is providing a textbook example of how people flip out WAY too much over him when he makes a mistake.

[jersey cubs fan]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

No, biff is our non-adopted kid who gets a free pass and has a tiny face.

[dcvalpo]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

 

 

I think in the analogy they are both our kids.

[Guest]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

Uhh, Rizzo is ours too.

[sneakypower]

hollandsworth (remember when we liked him[...])?

no

[Guest]

I'm not sure what good it does anyone for the media to beat a dead horse. Castro made a mistake, it wasn't a lack of concentration mistake or a mental error, it was just a dumb mistake by a 24 year old. It's not indicative of any pattern of behavior by Castro, but that is the narrative that will play out. Baez didn't run out a dropped 3rd strike, these are the kinds of things that happen with young players.

 

Kaplan can eat a dick. Len is morphing into Marty Brennaman a little more each year.

Edited August 28, 2014 by CubinNY

[Shawon12]

Some of you guys are meatballs in reverse. Seriously. Do u not believe in accountability or is it always some other fault?

[Sammy Sofa]

Len is awesome, but he's not perfect. His word isn't the final say on anything.

[Sammy Sofa]

Some of you guys are meatballs in reverse. Seriously. Do u not believe in accountability or is it always some other fault?

 

Not a single person here has said Castro didn't screw up tonight.

[Guest]

Kaplan just has no idea of perspective; everyone was annoyed over what happened, but he has no idea how to express something like that without going off the deep end. Even Hollandsworth seemed put off by it and was defending Castro a couple times after the game.

 

Again, Castro made a mistake. Nobody is saying he's blameless, but Kaplan is providing a textbook example of how people flip out WAY too much over him when he makes a mistake.

 

yep

 

it was hilarious seeing him fly off the handle like this while claiming he had had a chance to calm down, likes castro and has a great relationship.

[Guest]

hollandsworth (remember when we liked him[...])?

no

 

 

he definitely was widely liked for his 8 or 9 HRs in 2004. especially after the atlanta game.

[RammyFanny]

Do you guys really believe he watched the ball tonight because of the events of last week? I agree that some grace can be extended in terms of piling on, but I don't really give him a pass on the mental mistake.

 

It's more Kaplan is a douche for instigating the anti-Castro movement on-air and on Twitter after everything that's happened. Castro probably didn't watch the ball because of recent events, but he's been fine lately and all things considered, Kaplan could've/should've mentioned it once and let it go. Not lead into the damn postgame with it.

[Cubfanintheknow]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

Uhh, Rizzo is ours too.

 

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

[Guest]

Some of you guys are meatballs in reverse. Seriously. Do u not believe in accountability or is it always some other fault?

 

Not a single person here has said Castro didn't screw up tonight.

There must be ACCOUNTABILITY. Castro is running stadiums right now. I'm sure he was fined and he's already said he's sorry. What else does he have to do?

[Sammy Sofa]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

Uhh, Rizzo is ours too.

 

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Why don't people see them? They're just as visible. It's just that people don't catastrophize them the way they do with Castro's.

[Cubfanintheknow]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

[Guest]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

But he's the adopted brown kid and biff can make the same mistakes without getting yelled at.

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

Uhh, Rizzo is ours too.

 

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Rizzo not covering 1B was worse than anything Castro has done and should've stood out like a sore thumb. The media sure didn't cover that play like they covered Castro today.