8/27 Cubs (Turner) @ Reds (Latos) 6:10 pm CT CSN

[Guest]

It might be telling that I'm trying to find what game it was that Rizzo didn't cover first on a dropped third strike, and I can't get Google to come close to finding what I'm looking for.

[sneakypower]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

viewers have trouble making out whose tiny face it is screwing up

Edited August 28, 2014 by sneakypower

[Guest]

It might be telling that I'm trying to find what game it was that Rizzo didn't cover first on a dropped third strike, and I can't get Google to come close to finding what I'm looking for.

 

yeah i didn't even know it happened

[Guest]

It might be telling that I'm trying to find what game it was that Rizzo didn't cover first on a dropped third strike, and I can't get Google to come close to finding what I'm looking for.

On the other hand...

 

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=starlin%20castro%20gaffe

[Sammy Sofa]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

viewers have trouble making out whose tiny face it is screwing up

 

http://i.imgur.com/iigLQ0T.gif?1

[treebird]

when anthony rizzo makes a stupid mistake, he's a big dumb lovable oaf that you want to grab a beer with.

 

when starlin castro makes a stupid mistake, he's that freaking kid who stole your wallet that one time you accidentally went into a bad neighborhood after dark. i mean, it actually turned out that you had just moved your wallet to your front pocket because you were pretty sure someone was following you and you saw that thing on dateline about how they work in teams, but you get the idea. you know how those people think.

[Sammy Sofa]

It might be telling that I'm trying to find what game it was that Rizzo didn't cover first on a dropped third strike, and I can't get Google to come close to finding what I'm looking for.

On the other hand...

 

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=starlin%20castro%20gaffe

 

Do a search for "Anthony Rizzo gaffe" and here's the second result:

 

Rizzo takes blame for apparent Castro gaffe

[Sammy Sofa]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

 

Of course he has.

[Guest]

that's the thing that makes this whole thing all the more perplexing

 

starlin is goofy and lovable as hell

[Guest]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

 

Of course he has.

 

I think he means the ten million camera shots after said mistakes focusing on the player...in the field, in the dugout...just pushing the narrative

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

 

Rizzo:

 

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110304192215/arresteddevelopment/images/d/d0/Buster_at_the_Milford_School.JPG

[Sammy Sofa]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

 

Of course he has.

 

I think he means the ten million camera shots after said mistakes focusing on the player...in the field, in the dugout...just pushing the narrative

 

In that case, yeah, obviously, people miss out because they aren't replayed and discussed ad nauseum.

[treebird]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

 

Of course he has.

 

I think he means the ten million camera shots after said mistakes focusing on the player...in the field, in the dugout...just pushing the narrative

 

and that's what's so depressing about len. everyone knows kaplan is a [expletive], but if len was the anti-meatball we all wish him to be, he could really lead the charge against this stuff. but he's wholly unwilling to do so.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

don't know what everyone's talking about but glad I didn't watch it

[Guest]

You mean like on the ESPN broadcast that started the narrative when Barney screwed up like one inning after Castro and they kept showing Castro and talking about him having his back turned?

[Sammy Sofa]

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Huh? Is he invisible to the camera or something? When he screws up it's on TV just like Castro's.

 

Yep, he's on TV all right. But again, they're not nearly as obvious. Rizzo's never been isolated on camera making his mistakes like Starlin.

 

Rizzo:

 

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110304192215/arresteddevelopment/images/d/d0/Buster_at_the_Milford_School.JPG

 

Nice. He does seem like the motherboy type.

[Cubfanintheknow]

This is an analogy that many parents will understand. We want our kids to be the best they can be. But then they screw up, we yell at them, they say they're sorry and behave for a while. Then they screw up again. Eventually they stop making those same stupid mistakes. Not because you grounded them or lectured them. They stopped because they figured out it's in their best interest to stop. We let other kids get away with it because they're not our kids. We tell our kids not to do that stupid thing some other kid did, but they do it anyway. Then we get into the whole yelling thing again. And then they finally figure it out on their own.

 

Starlin is our kid. Even the best kids do stupid things. We yell because we think it's going to make a difference and it makes us feel better. But in the long run, it's up to the kid. Just like in the long run, it's up to Starlin.

 

 

That's because he's Biff. He's not our kid. And if he was, he doesn't have the potential Starlin has.

Uhh, Rizzo is ours too.

 

Sorry I didn't make the biff=Rizzo connection right away. Then I'll simply say biff's screw-ups aren't as painfully as obvious as Starlin. And that's a huge part of the problem. Starlin does have a way of making his mistakes stand out like a sore thumb. Rizzo's mental lapses get glossed over because many people don't even see them.

 

Rizzo not covering 1B was worse than anything Castro has done and should've stood out like a sore thumb. The media sure didn't cover that play like they covered Castro today.

 

I view both those transgressions as being equal. One is not worse than the other. And I'll just go out and guess the media does not view them as equal because it doesn't see Starlin's mistake for what it was--a mental mistake, like Rizzo's. The media--Kaplan in particular--sees it as more of a judgment call. Starlin should have been running right out of the batter's box. And because it has happened on a couple of occasions before, it's perceived as a lack of good judgment. Not saying it's right, mind you. But that's what it seems to be boiling down to.

 

Back to the original analogy--Kaplan's only doing this to make himself better. He's probably insane enough to believe that if this is the last "bad judgment" call out of Starlin, it'll be because if his hard-nosed stance on the incident.

[Guest]

but seriously, what game was that Rizzo screw up, I might be masochistic enough to cross reference thekapman's timeline for that day

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

but seriously, what game was that Rizzo screw up, I might be masochistic enough to cross reference thekapman's timeline for that day

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=63177&start=100&hilit=ever+seen+that

[bukie]

but seriously, what game was that Rizzo screw up, I might be masochistic enough to cross reference thekapman's timeline for that day

August 8. The Rays won the game 4-3 in 10 innings, and the runner ended up scoring the 3rd run of the game with 2 outs, preventing the Cubs from winning.

[treebird]

but seriously, what game was that Rizzo screw up, I might be masochistic enough to cross reference thekapman's timeline for that day

 

8/8

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_08_08_tbamlb_chnmlb_1&mode=recap&c_id=chc

 

Baez went 1-for-5 and struck out in his final four at-bats, including the eighth inning with the Cubs down 3-2 with a runner on second, and in the 10th with one out. Rizzo, another key piece for the future, made an equally-costly mental miscue in the eighth with the game still tied at 2.

 

Rizzo didn't recognize a called third strike on a wild pitch with a 3-2 count and neglected to cover first. Kevin Kiermaier ran down the line after a checked swing and was safe to extend the inning. Evan Longoria struck out in the following at-bat for what would've been the inning's third out.

 

EDIT i can't believe there are three of us looking this [expletive] up after midnight

[Guest]

Well, at least Len responded to me on Twitter.

[Guest]

Well you guys might not believe this, but mister kapman did not reference that play once in his many tweets on August 8th. Must've been too busy focusing on the big prospect debut that day(it was Baez's 1st Wrigley game).

[Guest]

Well, at least Len responded to me on Twitter.

 

who the hell is Mark Schmetzer?

 

seems to be writing the cubs blog on espnchicago now

[Guest]

apparently a reds guy

 

i guess that explains this

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/26975/error-filled-tilt-made-worse-by-starlin-castros-baserunning-blunder