Javy called up to Cubs

[Guest]

To start next year, should we expect some degree of regression in his adjustment period owing to the offseason break, or is he likely to just pick up wherever he leaves off this year, whether that means figures things out this year and picking back up in April "figured out" or picking up at whatever stage of development in which he finishes 2014?

how are we to know?

[George Hayduke]

To start next year, should we expect some degree of regression in his adjustment period owing to the offseason break, or is he likely to just pick up wherever he leaves off this year, whether that means figures things out this year and picking back up in April "figured out" or picking up at whatever stage of development in which he finishes 2014?

how are we to know?

Didn't know if he had shown a similar pattern in one of his previous minor league adjustment periods.

[Guest]

To start next year, should we expect some degree of regression in his adjustment period owing to the offseason break, or is he likely to just pick up wherever he leaves off this year, whether that means figures things out this year and picking back up in April "figured out" or picking up at whatever stage of development in which he finishes 2014?

how are we to know?

Didn't know if he had shown a similar pattern in one of his previous minor league adjustment periods.

 

well, IIRC, he struggled to start at high A at the end of 2012 (and in the AFL) and then continued to struggle for a while at the start of 2013. off the top of my head, i think that's the only time he finished a year at a level and started the next year at the same one.

[jersey cubs fan]

Len Kasper ‏@LenKasper · 38s

Other thing about Baez--his defense (& his actions/confidence) are intact. He isn't sulking. He is a baseball player. He'll figure it out

 

oh Len

[Deeg]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

[Elrhino]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

 

When Javy is sucking this badly at Olt's current age, I'll be ready to write him off too. He's got a mere 5 years to figure it out.

[Deeg]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

 

When Javy is sucking this badly at Olt's current age, I'll be ready to write him off too. He's got a mere 5 years to figure it out.

 

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

 

I won't for a moment suggest that Baez isn't a far better prospect than Olt. But I think people get too hung up on Olt's age. He was a college draftee, and he effectively lost an entire year to his eye issues. I'd like to see a little more of him before I toss him in the rubbish tip.

[Guest]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

 

When Javy is sucking this badly at Olt's current age, I'll be ready to write him off too. He's got a mere 5 years to figure it out.

 

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

 

I won't for a moment suggest that Baez isn't a far better prospect than Olt. But I think people get too hung up on Olt's age. He was a college draftee, and he effectively lost an entire year to his eye issues. I'd like to see a little more of him before I toss him in the rubbish tip.

 

The lost year is a strike against him, not a point in his favor.

[SouthSideRyan]

He's not a pitcher. It IS the years, not the mileage.

[mul21]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

 

When Javy is sucking this badly at Olt's current age, I'll be ready to write him off too. He's got a mere 5 years to figure it out.

 

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

 

I won't for a moment suggest that Baez isn't a far better prospect than Olt. But I think people get too hung up on Olt's age. He was a college draftee, and he effectively lost an entire year to his eye issues. I'd like to see a little more of him before I toss him in the rubbish tip.

 

The lost year is a strike against him, not a point in his favor.

 

I think it's kind of moot if he can see now. Not that we really know if he can or not.

[Guest]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

 

When Javy is sucking this badly at Olt's current age, I'll be ready to write him off too. He's got a mere 5 years to figure it out.

 

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

 

I won't for a moment suggest that Baez isn't a far better prospect than Olt. But I think people get too hung up on Olt's age. He was a college draftee, and he effectively lost an entire year to his eye issues. I'd like to see a little more of him before I toss him in the rubbish tip.

 

The lost year is a strike against him, not a point in his favor.

 

I think it's kind of moot if he can see now. Not that we really know if he can or not.

 

It's still lost development time. He doesn't get to put life on pause while he sorts those issues out.

[jersey cubs fan]

He doesn't get to put life on pause while he sorts those issues out.

 

very few of us can

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

Well played.

[Elrhino]

As of now, Baez has a higher K-rate and lower OPS than Olt. That's not to suggest that we should be writing off Baez or even seriously worrying, but that just maybe Olt is being written off too quickly as Baez has only 75 fewer PAs in the majors this year than Olt (and Olt barely had a cup of coffee before that).

 

When Javy is sucking this badly at Olt's current age, I'll be ready to write him off too. He's got a mere 5 years to figure it out.

 

It's not the years, it's the mileage.

 

I won't for a moment suggest that Baez isn't a far better prospect than Olt. But I think people get too hung up on Olt's age. He was a college draftee, and he effectively lost an entire year to his eye issues. I'd like to see a little more of him before I toss him in the rubbish tip.

 

The lost year is a strike against him, not a point in his favor.

 

I think it's kind of moot if he can see now. Not that we really know if he can or not.

 

He could see last week. Apparently Kane County has some sort of healing therapeutic electromagnetic fields that magically improves eyesight.

[Banedon]

@TheCubsWord

 

Javier Baez First 36 AAA G: .201 AVG, 28 H, 6 HR, 11 BB, 53 K First 36 MLB G: .171 AVG, 25 H, 7 HR, 10 BB, 65 K Adjustments will come

[Guest]

He could see last week. Apparently Kane County has some sort of healing therapeutic electromagnetic fields that magically improves eyesight.

 

Or just maybe you need better vision to hit MLB pitching than you do A ball pitching.

[Guest]

Olney mentioned on his Friday podcast that he heard the Cubs called Javy up to show him what he needed to work on (makes sense) and that he might start next year in AAA. Have any of the beat reporters written anything about this?

 

They did the same thing with Rizzo, though the first stint in the majors was with the Padres, but I thought that was widely assumed to be because of service time.

[Guest]

That doesn't seem likely to me for a couple reasons, but I guess it's in the realm of possibility. I haven't seen any chatter about that being the case, but I can't say I've been poring over every beat writer's word this month either.

[Banedon]

That doesn't seem likely to me for a couple reasons, but I guess it's in the realm of possibility. I haven't seen any chatter about that being the case, but I can't say I've been poring over every beat writer's word this month either.

 

Yeah, he already destroyed AAA. Not sure what more he can learn there.

[Guest]

I think it's the opposite actually, at least compared to Rizzo. Rizzo was dismantling AAA when he was called up(.331/.404/.652), so there's a little more logic in giving him a 50 game slap in the face at the MLB level to make some learnings seep in a bit better. While Baez had absolutely turned the corner at AAA, he had really only played at that level for a month. Especially in light of the adjustments he's made at other levels, it seems counter productive to promote him earlier than you'd been intending just to illustrate further adjustments when Baez has been all about adjustments as a minor leaguer.

[Guest]

He's already adjusting somewhat as his BB frequency shows.

[KingCubsFan]

I believe Theo has said part of the reason for bringing him up this year was to see what adjustments he needed to make so he could "hit the ground running" next year, or something to that effect. Wouldn't make sense if the plan was to send him back to AAA.

[JennieGarthAlgar]

They could just be telling him that to cover their butts in the event he has a non-stellar end of season/off season/spring training to the point where AAA next year makes most sense. Don't want to screw with the kid's head too much, so make him aware of all possible scenarios.

 

But I think he will be in our opening day lineup.

[Guest]

Javy has hit HR at a 30 HR pace (a middle infielder, mind you) since his call up while being 21 years old and understandably and expectably (is that a word?) terrible at lots of things. He has also shown visible progress in his approach lately and is walking a lot more, although he hasn't had the hits. I'm definitely not saying he's too talented to fail, but he's immensely talented and really young.

 

Just some perspective.

[Derwood]

Mike Trout is going to win the MVP and he leads the AL in k's, so something something Javy Hall of Fame