Executive Approval Poll - Post Trade Deadline 2014

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Remember, how you define good job is up to you, just be consistent with your definition.

 

 

Past results:

 

Post-2013 Season - 93% - 29 votes

Post-2013 Trade Deadline - 98% - 46 votes

Spring Training 2013 - 100% - 40 votes

Post-2012 Season - 84% - 31 votes

Post-2012 Trade Deadline - 90% Yes - 42 Votes

Opening Day 2012 - 87% Yes - 31 Votes

[Andy]

I'm defining 'good job' in terms of the execution of their plan. I don't like that we essentially sucked on purpose for 3 years, but within the confines of that plan they've done a solid job adding talent. We'd better be a lot better than this next year, though.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I just want to win a World Series, and I have complete confidence in Theo, Jed, et al. to get that done. I don't care about sucking the last three years. I actually like watching this team, right now. And I can't wait for next season. I have never wavered from believing in "The Plan."

[Sammy Sofa]

Nope.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I just want to win a World Series, and I have complete confidence in Theo, Jed, et al. to get that done. I don't care about sucking the last three years. I actually like watching this team, right now. And I can't wait for next season. I have never wavered from believing in "The Plan."

 

What makes them magically immune to variance in the postseason?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I, of course, vote no.

 

The "plan" predictably is taking much longer than many thought originally, and Hoyer is already laying the groundwork for having excuses in place for 2015 as well. Nobody makes the playoffs every single year under the new CBA, so they probably won't be making it often enough to turn their 0-for-4 into anything other than a middling average.

[Guest]

I'm voting yes based on the assumption that they've been operating under ownership mandated spending limits.

 

I'd image that an ownership poll would have much different results.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I just want to win a World Series, and I have complete confidence in Theo, Jed, et al. to get that done. I don't care about sucking the last three years. I actually like watching this team, right now. And I can't wait for next season. I have never wavered from believing in "The Plan."

 

What makes them magically immune to variance in the postseason?

 

Building a team that can repeatedly make the playoffs, and have more and more chances to have variance work to their advantage.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I just want to win a World Series, and I have complete confidence in Theo, Jed, et al. to get that done. I don't care about sucking the last three years. I actually like watching this team, right now. And I can't wait for next season. I have never wavered from believing in "The Plan."

 

What makes them magically immune to variance in the postseason?

 

Building a team that can repeatedly make the playoffs, and have more and more chances to have variance work to their advantage.

 

So how many times are you envisioning them making it under this regime?

 

I'm just saying "complete confidence" is probably unfounded. Even if they make it 6, 7 times, they still could easily not win it all in that time.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I just want to win a World Series, and I have complete confidence in Theo, Jed, et al. to get that done. I don't care about sucking the last three years. I actually like watching this team, right now. And I can't wait for next season. I have never wavered from believing in "The Plan."

 

What makes them magically immune to variance in the postseason?

 

Building a team that can repeatedly make the playoffs, and have more and more chances to have variance work to their advantage.

 

So how many times are you envisioning them making it under this regime?

 

I'm just saying "complete confidence" is probably unfounded. Even if they make it 6, 7 times, they still could easily not win it all in that time.

 

Depends on how long they are here for, I guess. But, in the next decade, I see no reason that we can't make it 6 or 7 times... provided things work to plan. If we make the playoffs 6 or 7 times in a decade, then not winning it once would be a major letdown, though totally realistic, I agree.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I, of course, vote no.

 

The "plan" predictably is taking much longer than many thought originally, and Hoyer is already laying the groundwork for having excuses in place for 2015 as well. Nobody makes the playoffs every single year under the new CBA, so they probably won't be making it often enough to turn their 0-for-4 into anything other than a middling average.

 

Who thought the "plan" was going to take a shorter amount of time than this?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I, of course, vote no.

 

The "plan" predictably is taking much longer than many thought originally, and Hoyer is already laying the groundwork for having excuses in place for 2015 as well. Nobody makes the playoffs every single year under the new CBA, so they probably won't be making it often enough to turn their 0-for-4 into anything other than a middling average.

 

Who thought the "plan" was going to take a shorter amount of time than this?

 

Literally everyone three years ago. Even the people who wanted to rebuild would say things like "If we're not good by 2014, then I'll be right there with you."

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I, of course, vote no.

 

The "plan" predictably is taking much longer than many thought originally, and Hoyer is already laying the groundwork for having excuses in place for 2015 as well. Nobody makes the playoffs every single year under the new CBA, so they probably won't be making it often enough to turn their 0-for-4 into anything other than a middling average.

 

Who thought the "plan" was going to take a shorter amount of time than this?

 

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[Hairyducked Idiot]

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What if we take the expectations for Epstein to do his @$@#!% job and put together a successful baseball team ...

 

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... and push them another year into the future every time he fails.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I, of course, vote no.

 

The "plan" predictably is taking much longer than many thought originally, and Hoyer is already laying the groundwork for having excuses in place for 2015 as well. Nobody makes the playoffs every single year under the new CBA, so they probably won't be making it often enough to turn their 0-for-4 into anything other than a middling average.

 

Who thought the "plan" was going to take a shorter amount of time than this?

 

Literally everyone three years ago. Even the people who wanted to rebuild would say things like "If we're not good by 2014, then I'll be right there with you."

 

Well, that's not the plan I wanted. I wanted to be really bad for at least two years, and maybe be around .500 this year. But, I always saw 2015 as the year that was the tipping point.

 

I don't want to bring in old arguments, but I saw you recently bring up how the A's were in a similar position after 2011. But I don't want to follow their path, anyway. If they don't win it this year, they are pretty much fucked. Maybe they can next year if things go right, but Cespedes is now gone, his replacement, Lester, is gone, Samardzija is probably going to be traded this off-season. Then everyone is gone the following year. And their farm system is a bunch of junk.

 

We have built the Dominican Academy, brought in Tom Tango, brought in Derek Johnson, have a great pitching coach in Bosio, a collection of hitting prospects that rivals any group of hitting prospects in history. We are moving forward with the renovations, have new TV and radio deals soon to be in place, hopefully the debt burden from the sale will soon be gone. And we are in a huge market.

 

The state of the organization was terrible when Theo took over, and not just in talent at the minor league and major league level, but everywhere -- especially financially because of Zell holding Ricketts hostage on the sale. It had to be a multi-year ordeal. But, I feel like we are in a great position going forward. And most importantly, I think making a push too early would have given us what Billy has -- a small window for success. I think our window for success right now is a decade long. I couldn't be more happy with what Theo has done.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Hoyer's already hinting that 2015 isn't going to be the year they are focusing on either.

 

The decade-long window stuff is fantasy. It *might* happen, but that's like 95th percentile stuff. There's too much parity in MLB and too much dragging teams toward the middle.

 

Even Theo's Red Sox made the playoffs six years out of seven, then missed it four out of five. That's probably what we'll be looking at, too, in the best-case scenario. And that's hoping that all the stacked young teams in the NL Central start screwing up.

[sneakypower]

i voted yes

 

given payroll slashing, i simply don't believe it was it was ever a realistic proposition to contend in '12-'13, and sure, i'm slightly aggrieved that this year didn't pan out in terms of wins

 

but when we've got young stars starting all over the field, the added single year of unnecessary plight will be rendered mostly a non-issue for me; and i fully expect this to happen sooner rather than later

 

actually, make that a resounding yes

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Fine, 6 or 7 seven years, where we could make the playoffs in five or so years. I would still rather have that after three years of suck, when the alternative is to try to turn a 70-win team into an 80-85 win team. I mean, Kris Bryant is gonna be pretty damn good.

 

Also, it's shame that Theo had Josh Vitters and Brett Jackson to rely on, rather than an unheralded third-baseman like Josh Donaldson languishing in the minors. Had a guy like Vitters turned into an 8-win player, I bet Theo would have accelerated the timeline. Sometimes [expletive] just doesn't work out.

[sneakypower]

The state of the organization was terrible when Theo took over, and not just in talent at the minor league and major league level, but everywhere -- especially financially because of Zell holding Ricketts hostage on the sale. It had to be a multi-year ordeal. But, I feel like we are in a great position going forward. And most importantly, I think making a push too early would have given us what Billy has -- a small window for success. I think our window for success right now is a decade long. I couldn't be more happy with what Theo has done.

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[Hairyducked Idiot]

Hey sneaky, now that you're here, I've been meaning to ask you if you still think I'm crazy for calling Junior Lake's line drive percentage last year a fluke.

[Sammy Sofa]

When the team is actually good I'll happily vote yes. In the meantime they've had full endorsement to completely neglect that. If I'm voting for the state of the farm system I'll give a big fat disgusting thumbs up, but until it actually pays off there's no shame in voting no.

 

Plus I'll hate Theo Epstein forever even if they win a bajillion WS.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Also, it's shame that Theo had Josh Vitters and Brett Jackson to rely on, rather than an unheralded third-baseman like Josh Donaldson languishing in the minors. Had a guy like Vitters turned into an 8-win player, I bet Theo would have accelerated the timeline. Sometimes [expletive] just doesn't work out.

 

Poor guy, all he had was Starlin Castro, Jeff Samardzija, Matt Garza, Wellington Castillo, Ryan Dempster, Andrew Cashner, Darwin Barney. Not a spec of MLB production or trade value in that bunch.

[Guest]

Plus I'll hate Theo Epstein forever even if they win a bajillion WS.

Wtf.this is almost as dumb as the Rizzo thing. Theo is the [expletive].

[Guest]

Seriously what the [expletive] [expletive]

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Plus I'll hate Theo Epstein forever even if they win a bajillion WS.

Wtf.this is almost as dumb as the Rizzo thing. Theo is the [expletive].

 

How dare he hate the man who has led his favorite baseball team to a .401 win percentage.