Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-12-13

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Box Scores

 

Iowa won 2-1 Box Score

 

Tennessee won the resumption of yesterday's suspended game 3-2 Box Score

 

Tennessee won their regularly scheduled game 9-4 (7 innings) Box Score

 

Daytona won 5-4 Box Score

 

Kane County won 4-3 on a Reggie Golden walk-off sac fly Box Score

 

Boise had the day off

 

AZL Cubs won 7-0 Box Score

 

DSL Cubs won 5-4 (8 innings, rain) Box Score

 

OVERALL: 7-0!

[Guest]

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: RHP Justin Grimm (13 IP, 2.28 FIP, 9.00 ERA, 15 K, 6 BB)

Tennessee: RHP Yeiper Castillo (50.1 IP, 3.70 FIP, 3.58 ERA, 49 K, 25 BB)

Daytona: RHP Ben Wells (103.2 IP, 4.05 FIP, 3.56 ERA, 66 K, 38 BB)

Kane County: LHP Michael Heesch (108 IP, 3.46 FIP, 4.00 ERA, 58 K, 32 BB)

AZL Cubs: RHP Erick Leal (35.1 IP, 2.46 FIP, 3.06 ERA, 38 K, 5 BB)

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Justin Grimm (2.28 FIP, 9.00 ERA)

 

The [expletive]?

[abuck1220]

obviously he's a reliever which puts a pretty hard cap on what he can give you, but i'm surprised rosscup isn't higher on people's prospect lists. i mean, we'd all be furious if he was traded for some other organization's szczur/ha, right?

[CubInOK]

obviously he's a reliever which puts a pretty hard cap on what he can give you, but i'm surprised rosscup isn't higher on people's prospect lists. i mean, we'd all be furious if he was traded for some other organization's szczur/ha, right?

People here are starting to say he'll start 2014 on the MLB team, no?

[abuck1220]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

[Guest]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

 

He's firmly entrenched in mine, but in the 20s.

[davell]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

To me, I've got Szczur in the 17-22 range right now and Rosscup outside my top 30. I think a 4th OFer is slightly more valuable than a LOOGY.

[Elrhino]

If Szczur is our 4th OF, something has gone horribly wrong.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Szczur, Ha, and Andreoli should just amalgamate so I don't have to think about who to put in the top 30.

[davell]

If Szczur is our 4th OF, something has gone horribly wrong.

I think the Reed Johnson comps on Szczur could be fairly accurate. I don't think things would be horribly wrong if we wound up with a Reed type as a 4th OFer, but saying that-I figure Szczur has his major league career elsewhere.

[abuck1220]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

To me, I've got Szczur in the 17-22 range right now and Rosscup outside my top 30. I think a 4th OFer is slightly more valuable than a LOOGY.

 

i guess i think a really good loogy is much more valuable than a blah 4th OF.

 

i think a loogy of rosscup's caliber (assuming his minor league numbers translate) is a lot harder to find than a 4th OF of szczur's potential caliber.

[Guest]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

To me, I've got Szczur in the 17-22 range right now and Rosscup outside my top 30. I think a 4th OFer is slightly more valuable than a LOOGY.

 

Rosscup shouldn't be relegated to LOOGY status already.

[Elrhino]

Szczur is 24 years old and hitting .730 OPS and slugging .374 in AA. Maybe he could be a very end of roster pinch runner, late inning defense, and "Oh well, I guess he's slightly better than a pitcher" last man left on the bench pinch hitter, but that is a Jose Macias caliber bat for a 4th OF. Edited August 12, 2013 by Elrhino

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

To me, I've got Szczur in the 17-22 range right now and Rosscup outside my top 30. I think a 4th OFer is slightly more valuable than a LOOGY.

 

i guess i think a really good loogy is much more valuable than a blah 4th OF.

 

i think a loogy of rosscup's caliber (assuming his minor league numbers translate) is a lot harder to find than a 4th OF of szczur's potential caliber.

 

Yep, considering Andreoli and Ha have just as much of a chance as Szczur of being a 4th OF.

[abuck1220]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

To me, I've got Szczur in the 17-22 range right now and Rosscup outside my top 30. I think a 4th OFer is slightly more valuable than a LOOGY.

 

Rosscup shouldn't be relegated to LOOGY status already.

 

that too.

[jersey cubs fan]

If Szczur is our 4th OF, something has gone horribly wrong.

I think the Reed Johnson comps on Szczur could be fairly accurate. I don't think things would be horribly wrong if we wound up with a Reed type as a 4th OFer, but saying that-I figure Szczur has his major league career elsewhere.

 

Reed Johnson comps? Sczur is 24 with a SLG way under .400 at AA. When Reed Johnson was a 24 year old in the Southern League he hit .314/.383/.451. Sczur may still have a major league career but he's more of a 25th guy on the roster than a 4th OF. I think a quality reliever is more valuable than a guy with Szczur's profile.

[ctcf]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

To me, I've got Szczur in the 17-22 range right now and Rosscup outside my top 30. I think a 4th OFer is slightly more valuable than a LOOGY.

 

Rosscup shouldn't be relegated to LOOGY status already.

 

that too.

 

Yeah, I was gonna say that struck me as odd. He could be a pretty great BP piece.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

You guys got me curious about Rosscup, so I looked up his splits. His FIP is 0.77 against lefties with a K% of 47, and a 2.97 FIP against righties with a K% of 32.

 

Drastic split, but it's not like he can't handle righties.

[davell]

The Reed Johnson comps are from McLeod, not me. Rosscup could be more than a LOOGY and if he is, then he's likely got more value than a 4th OFer, which Szczur may or may not be himself. At any rate, I'll rethink my positioning on Rosscup if he pitches well in AAA and/or the AFL.

[abuck1220]

not trying to be a dick, and i realize we're just whining over something stupid like prospect rankings, but i'll rethink my positioning on szczur if he hits well ever, anywhere.

[TruffleShuffle]

yes, but i don't think i saw him on many top 30 lists.

 

He's firmly entrenched in mine, but in the 20s.

 

i think i just forgot about him. :oops:

[davell]

Can someone tell me what separates Rosscup from Jeff Beliveau? The velo is about the same, unless I'm mistaken. Beliveau was a stud in AA at 24, Rosscup at 25, with slightly less control. I don't know that Rosscup is an absolute "must add" to the 40 man, until he pitches well in the AFL.

[Guest]

Setting aside that I always thought Beliveau should've been given a shot, here's a comparison of those two seasons:

 

Player     FIP    K/9   BB/9  HR/9
Beliveau   3.11  10.9    2.5   1.1
Rosscup    2.07  13.7    3.9   0.4

[sneakypower]

i had Rosscup @25 & Szczur @16 two months ago, but i guess in seeing the relative ease with which you can just grab an OF like Sweeney, Bogusevic, Gillespie off the street who won't make a complete ass of themselves in sheltered ABs, the appeal of a 5th OF-type has diminished some for me since then

 

i'd probably have those two mostly reversed in a revision