Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-28-13

[Warpticon]

Considering how deep the system is in offensive talent, it's weird that there's so little to care about at Daytona. DeVoss is the most interesting, which isn't saying much. Moving to the OF + declining contact rates make him pretty forgettable in spite of his awesome walk rate and speed.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Baez hits his 2nd HR of the game in the 9th inning. Finished 2/5 with 2 HRs and 3 Ks.

[ctcf]

27 HR total on the year. Jeez.

[imb]

27 HR total on the year. Jeez.

 

1 HR every 2 games in AA

[Tryptamine]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

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[The-Kris-Bryant]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

[ctcf]

So I just did a quick run through of all the minor leagues. With the caveat that I didn't check for players who may have moved up a league and added to their total like Javy has, his 27 HRs puts him at second overall in the minors.

 

1st is Ryan Rua of the Rangers with 28. I would note that he is 23 and in A-Ball (Sally League)

2nd is Javy with his combined 27.

3rd is Josh Fields at 26. He is a 27 year old in AA in the Texas league.

 

While the K rate is currently horrifying, holy [expletive] [expletive].

[ctcf]

Another fun fact:

 

Matt Clapp @TheBlogfines

Javier Baez now has 10 homers in his first 20 AA games (82 AB). The Southern League HR leader has 17 in 337 AB. #Perspective

[Tryptamine]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

[ctcf]

ANOTHER fun fact: With 27 HRs, Javy already has more this year than Anthony Rizzo ever hit in any one season in the minors. He has one less than Mike Olt's personal best of 28.

[The-Kris-Bryant]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

[Vinestal]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

His walk rate was improving at Daytona before the promotion, I think given time they will improve at AA as well.

[imb]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

Well, you're basically saying there are a lot of SS that can't get on base 30 percent of the time, making Baez' low OBP not a big deal, thereby making the power numbers even cooler.

[Guest]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

We literally just saw this happen less than 3 months ago. Baez currently has a .284 OBP and a .918 OPS, which is just the most preposterous thing I've ever heard of. Both his OBP and SLG will normalize as he continues to progress, and more pitchers get the fear of God put into them. Let's wait for Baez to 1) reach 100 PA at AA and 2) stop hitting HR at a 70 HR pace at AA before we go too crazy about nitpicking his plate discipline. Especially when we saw this same story play out in Daytona and Baez can't legally drink until Christmastime.

[Guest]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

A lot of very good hitters start getting pitched around eventually, and that's where the walks come from.

[Guest]

Also, CJ Edwards you are ridiculous. Another good outing next time out and he'll cross 12 K/9 in over 100 IP. That is madness.

[The-Kris-Bryant]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

A lot of very good hitters start getting pitched around eventually, and that's where the walks come from.

Alfonso Soriano says Hi.

[Guest]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

A lot of very good hitters start getting pitched around eventually, and that's where the walks come from.

Alfonso Soriano says Hi.

 

Thats why I said a lot and not all, dingus.

[The-Kris-Bryant]

I don't see how he can't be a consensus top 10 guy after this year. Perhaps the largest offensive upside in the minors at a defensive premium position.

 

 

Because he has as many home runs as walks

 

He's also a shortstop who may hit 40HR. The rarity of that is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

We literally just saw this happen less than 3 months ago. Baez currently has a .284 OBP and a .918 OPS, which is just the most preposterous thing I've ever heard of. Both his OBP and SLG will normalize as he continues to progress, and more pitchers get the fear of God put into them. Let's wait for Baez to 1) reach 100 PA at AA and 2) stop hitting HR at a 70 HR pace at AA before we go too crazy about nitpicking his plate discipline. Especially when we saw this same story play out in Daytona and Baez can't legally drink until Christmastime.

I'm not nitpicking nor am I saying he's not a fantastic prospect with a high ceiling but he has his risks and there's good reason to be concerned enough about him not to have him among the top 10 prospects.

[Guest]

Also, CJ Edwards you are ridiculous. Another good outing next time out and he'll cross 12 K/9 in over 100 IP. That is madness.

 

Without ever having allowed a home run.

[illiniguy]

Sign me up for an Alfonso Soriano at SS, while cost controlled.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Almora 2-5 again and Vogelbach continues to hit and get on base. Any chance those 2 get a taste of Daytona this year?

[Guest]

Unfortunately he's a SS who may not get on base 30% of the time. The rarity of that, unfortunately is not ridiculous.

 

We literally just saw this happen less than 3 months ago. Baez currently has a .284 OBP and a .918 OPS, which is just the most preposterous thing I've ever heard of. Both his OBP and SLG will normalize as he continues to progress, and more pitchers get the fear of God put into them. Let's wait for Baez to 1) reach 100 PA at AA and 2) stop hitting HR at a 70 HR pace at AA before we go too crazy about nitpicking his plate discipline. Especially when we saw this same story play out in Daytona and Baez can't legally drink until Christmastime.

I'm not nitpicking nor am I saying he's not a fantastic prospect with a high ceiling but he has his risks and there's good reason to be concerned enough about him not to have him among the top 10 prospects.

 

If your reason for leaving Baez out of the Top 10 is that his BB/K numbers aren't good enough in his 85 AA PAs that he has at age 20 while on pace to hit 70 HR over 600 PA, then that reason is....not good.

[imb]

So I just did a quick run through of all the minor leagues. With the caveat that I didn't check for players who may have moved up a league and added to their total like Javy has, his 27 HRs puts him at second overall in the minors.

 

1st is Ryan Rua of the Rangers with 28. I would note that he is 23 and in A-Ball (Sally League)

2nd is Javy with his combined 27.

3rd is Josh Fields at 26. He is a 27 year old in AA in the Texas league.

 

While the K rate is currently horrifying, holy [expletive] [expletive].

 

i think george springer has 29

gallo has 27 and sano has 26