5/10 Cubs are playing if anyone cares (Shark vs. Detwiler)

[Little Slide Rooter]

Sweeney is much better than Hairston, Sappelt, and Borbon, FWIW

 

That's like saying "I've never been to jail" as though it's an accomplishment.

[Sammy Sofa]

What a pointless thing to say.

 

With the prospects of Soriano/DeJesus being traded, how is that pointless?

 

Because they're Ryan Sweeney, Dave Sappelt, Scott Hairston and Julio Borbon. You were pissed, yet again, and just looking for the bajillionth way to slam some of the players.

[Schwarber Fan]

What a pointless thing to say.

 

With the prospects of Soriano/DeJesus being traded, how is that pointless?

 

Because they're Ryan Sweeney, Dave Sappelt, Scott Hairston and Julio Borbon. You were pissed, yet again, and just looking for the bajillionth way to slam some of the players.

 

Whether they're all AAAA outfielders or not, there has to be some sort of depth chart.

 

And Sappelt has slammed himself.

[Guest]

Would it be the worst thing in the world for Shark to develop a minor "injury" just in time for Garza's return, thus allowing both Villanueva and Feldman to remain in the rotation building trade value, and heel up once one of the three is traded? I figure if social anxiety disorder is a legit reason to use the DL, why not mental break?

 

Yes.

[Sammy Sofa]

What a pointless thing to say.

 

With the prospects of Soriano/DeJesus being traded, how is that pointless?

 

Because they're Ryan Sweeney, Dave Sappelt, Scott Hairston and Julio Borbon. You were pissed, yet again, and just looking for the bajillionth way to slam some of the players.

 

Whether they're all AAAA outfielders or not, there has to be some sort of depth chart.

 

And Sappelt has slammed himself.

 

They're all varying degrees of suck; hence why they're part time players.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Would it be the worst thing in the world for Shark to develop a minor "injury" just in time for Garza's return, thus allowing both Villanueva and Feldman to remain in the rotation building trade value, and heel up once one of the three is traded? I figure if social anxiety disorder is a legit reason to use the DL, why not mental break?

 

Yes.

 

Why? When Garza returns, someone's going to be booted from the rotation spot. It shouldn't be one of the guys we could be showcasing for trade value. Shark clearly still has the stuff he's had all along, but he's been wilder his past few starts. Seems to be more mental than physical. Maybe it has something to due with frustration over lack of run support.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

When looking for the guy to remove from the rotation, might I suggest anyone else besides our best pitcher?

[Sammy Sofa]

Would it be the worst thing in the world for Shark to develop a minor "injury" just in time for Garza's return, thus allowing both Villanueva and Feldman to remain in the rotation building trade value, and heel up once one of the three is traded? I figure if social anxiety disorder is a legit reason to use the DL, why not mental break?

 

Yes.

 

Why? When Garza returns, someone's going to be booted from the rotation spot. It shouldn't be one of the guys we could be showcasing for trade value. Shark clearly still has the stuff he's had all along, but he's been wilder his past few starts. Seems to be more mental than physical. Maybe it has something to due with frustration over lack of run support.

 

You're doing this on purpose, right? Just say that you are before it's too late.

[Guest]

When looking for the guy to remove from the rotation, might I suggest anyone else besides our best pitcher?

 

No kidding.

[Sosa21MVP]

What was the official time on that game? Given that 10 runs scored, it seemed to end quickly.

[Guest]

What was the official time on that game? Given that 10 runs scored, it seemed to end quickly.

 

2:23.

 

Guys sure weren't going up there looking to walk. Only three walks in the game and the teams combined to see only 223 pitches (3.14 P/PA combined).

[Little Slide Rooter]

When looking for the guy to remove from the rotation, might I suggest anyone else besides our best pitcher?

 

No kidding.

 

Well yeah. When your main objective is winning as many games as possible. Sadly, it appears as though that will not be our objective so much as continuing to stock the farm system. So who's the odd man out?

 

Jackson: would like to see him heat up. He's also not as likely to be on an inning count.

 

Wood: he's been out best pitcher so far. Certainly don't want him to lose momentum, and would be nice to see how long he keeps it up, and if not, how far he'd fall.

 

Feldman: the only reason for him to be removed from the rotation is if he's traded when decision time comes. As of now, nobody's going to be fooled into giving up anything of value for him. Give him another month or 2 and we just might. If he falls off a cliff, all we lose is the pair of fringe prospects we'd likely receive if we traded him now.

 

Villanueva: sure, he could be moved to the pen. That not only hurts his trade value, but if the plan is to keep him I'd prefer see what happens if he finally gets a full season as a starter.

 

This leaves our best pitcher. If between now and when Garza returns, we somehow resemble a fringe contender, obviously you want him on the mound. If not, then let him take a break. If he's on a leash as far as innings, why not now instead of August?

[Sammy Sofa]

So you want him to "take a break" for an indefinite period of time...then simply plug him back into the starting rotation later on in the season?

[illiniguy]

One of the big things I hope we get out of this season is Shark being able to make all of his starts and build up his innings. Since for years he was a middle reliever. Taking him out of the rotation would be a very foolish move.

[mookie]

I was thinking the same thing last night. Why not take Shark out of the rotation for a while? Makes perfect sense to me.

[jersey cubs fan]

One of the big things I hope we get out of this season is Shark being able to make all of his starts and build up his innings. Since for years he was a middle reliever. Taking him out of the rotation would be a very foolish move.

Building his stamina and innings is a process. You don't just decide to go 35/220 just because you want him there eventually.

[Guest]

Why are people arguing with LLF still?

[SABR Gamer]

Why are people arguing with LLF still?

 

Boredom?

[Little Slide Rooter]

So you want him to "take a break" for an indefinite period of time...then simply plug him back into the starting rotation later on in the season?

 

It's more about not removing a potentially valuable trade chip from the rotation. And if by simply plug him back into the rotation you mean work him back as you would any starting pitcher from a 15 day or so DL stint, then yes. That.

[Sammy Sofa]

Feldman is the only one they need to try and move. This is a terrible idea.

 

(Nobody's arguing with him; we're just enjoying him trying to explain himself)