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[Guest]

STUPID BROKE CUBS ARE BROKE. THEY SHOULD SPEND MORE.

[jersey cubs fan]

Wittenmeyer was on Mully and Hanley this morning and ripped the Cubs up, down, left and right. Anything "positive" he managed to say was begrudging and quickly follow by some negative qualifier. He's convinced the team is broke, but then criticizes them for not spending resources on the current team.

 

Did say that if the Cubs do get Tanaka, it will make this offseason a successful one

Kinda sounds like the team is in a bad place and has been for several years.

 

Everyone knows the Cubs are in a bad place in certain ways, but Wittenmyer clearly has an agenda at this point. Stop playing devil's advocate in his defense.

It's not just "certain ways", it's the only way that matters. Why are you the judge jury and executioner when it comes to who can be defended? Some people seem more interested in defending an owner who has purposefully underspent and has had the team do nothing but lose, but get pissed at media members who call them out for it.

 

 

Wittenmeyer is the debt structure guy. Which you don't believe has anything to do with the Cubs not spending. So, why are YOU defending him?

I'm not defending anybody, my intent was to offend David and the Apologists.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Everyone knows the Cubs are in a bad place in certain ways, but Wittenmyer clearly has an agenda at this point. Stop playing devil's advocate in his defense.

 

I'm perfectly willing to believe that Wittenmeyer is a hack who has positioned himself as the extremely-negative guy because he believes negative things about the Cubs and takes things to extremes because he's a hack.

 

The whole "he's just mad because the Super Friends Front Office is leakproof and now he has no sources, so he's taking it out by writing nasty lies about our awesome franchise" vibe strikes me as silly.

[Guest]

Everyone knows the Cubs are in a bad place in certain ways, but Wittenmyer clearly has an agenda at this point. Stop playing devil's advocate in his defense.

 

I'm perfectly willing to believe that Wittenmeyer is a hack who has positioned himself as the extremely-negative guy because he believes negative things about the Cubs and takes things to extremes because he's a hack.

 

The whole "he's just mad because the Super Friends Front Office is leakproof and now he has no sources, so he's taking it out by writing nasty lies about our awesome franchise" vibe strikes me as silly.

 

Well, yeah. Unless he's just obscenely unprofessional and completely making everything up, he clearly has sources. I don't know why people keep saying that.

[davell]

I do believe in the debt structure issues. I believe Wittenmyer dug into that with all he had, mainly because they've shut him out from having anything else to do. I definitely think he has an axe to grind, since he has been shut out of everything important, as has everyone else, since the FO took over.

 

My main point of contention is this: I get David's point about Ricketts did this type of loan because it was required, in order for him to buy the Cubs. But WHY do it, when no one else was willing to? Are we talking a hundred million dollar price differential, if it was opened up to the highest bidder, no strings attached? Was it Ricketts ONLY shot at winning the bid? We'll never know these things, but I will always think Ricketts jumped the gun here and did the loans in an unnecessary way, that hindered the Cubs at the beginning of his ownership. It may not matter in the future and we've just got to deal with it now, but I do think things could have been different.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Wittenmeyer's main source is almost certainly Crane Kenney, which isn't exactly a bad source.

[Guest]

Wittenmeyer's main source is almost certainly Crane Kenney, which isn't exactly a bad source.

 

That doesn't seem right to me. Why would Crane be feeding info to the guy who does nothing but rip the organization and can't help himself from taking pot shots even when reporting good things? I'd have to think it's someone beneath him who isn't as invested in things.

 

Kaplan is the organizational shill who gets everything from Kenney, IMO.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

No idea, but Wittenmeyer always says "a source close to the Cubs business side" or something, and it's stuff that would clearly be in Crane's ballpark.

[CubsWin]

I read it. I disagree with his reasoning, but nowhere does he say that ownership is being unnecessarily cheap. He believes they're being cheap out of necessity, the exact opposite.

They are being unnecessarily cheap and he is making excuses for it because he's apparently completely fine with it. It's called context

Wow. Condescend much?

 

I get that you think they are being unnecessarily cheap, but he doesn't. So you are putting words in his mouth and then criticizing him for it. Never mind, it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not important.

 

That said, I agree with you. They have the money, they just aren't spending it.

[imb]

lmao when goony and kyle are on the same page, you know you can just outright ignore whatever they're saying without consequence

[Guest]

Apparently, Boers and Bernstein just spent an hour making fun of Wittenmyer.

 

I like this.

[jersey cubs fan]

lmao when goony and kyle are on the same page, you know you can just outright ignore whatever they're saying without consequence

As opposed to the brilliant triumvirate of David, imb and leftcoastcubfan

[Guest]

lmao when goony and kyle are on the same page, you know you can just outright ignore whatever they're saying without consequence

As opposed to the brilliant triumvirate of David, imb and leftcoastcubfan

 

I am definitely not an ownership fan/apologist.

 

I am not happy with the way they have chosen not to spend the last few years and agree with Kyle that they have screwed a lot of things up due to naivety and lack of experience (kind of hand in hand but w/e).

 

All that said, I am definitely a Gordon Wittenmyer hater.

[imb]

lmao when goony and kyle are on the same page, you know you can just outright ignore whatever they're saying without consequence

As opposed to the brilliant triumvirate of David, imb and leftcoastcubfan

 

no

[jersey cubs fan]

 

All that said, I am definitely a Gordon Wittenmyer hater.

I couldn't care less about him. Haven't read the suntimes in a very long time. You should probably pity him rather than hate him though. He was fed a BS story about debt and then was late to realize how stupid it was and the real problem has just been the cubs tanking by choice.

[Guest]

 

All that said, I am definitely a Gordon Wittenmyer hater.

I couldn't care less about him. Haven't read the suntimes in a very long time. You should probably pity him rather than hate him though. He was fed a BS story about debt and then was late to realize how stupid it was and the real problem has just been the cubs tanking by choice.

 

I avoid him but since I can't help but listen to WSCR on my drive to work, I'm force fed his crap pretty often.

 

I usually just change the station, though.

[Ryne Ween]

Apparently, Boers and Bernstein just spent an hour making fun of Wittenmyer.

 

I like this.

 

 

I caught some of this. I dont know who Wittenmyer is but he cant be as bad as boers and bernstein. Bernstein is an irritating prick. I remember when he used to make fun of hockey for the players eastern european names and when he was just kinda trying to learn about basketball. Hes about 3 years late on everything.

[ctcf]

lmao when goony and kyle are on the same page, you know you can just outright ignore whatever they're saying without consequence

 

Wait I can't do that all the time?

[Guest]

Apparently, Boers and Bernstein just spent an hour making fun of Wittenmyer.

 

I like this.

 

 

I caught some of this. I dont know who Wittenmyer is but he cant be as bad as boers and bernstein. Bernstein is an irritating prick. I remember when he used to make fun of hockey for the players eastern european names and when he was just kinda trying to learn about basketball. Hes about 3 years late on everything.

 

 

uhhhhh what in the [expletive] are you talking about?

[Banedon]

Apparently, Boers and Bernstein just spent an hour making fun of Wittenmyer.

 

I like this.

 

Annnnnd I'll be listening to that podcast today.

[Banedon]

Apparently, Boers and Bernstein just spent an hour making fun of Wittenmyer.

 

I like this.

 

 

I caught some of this. I dont know who Wittenmyer is but he cant be as bad as boers and bernstein. Bernstein is an irritating prick. I remember when he used to make fun of hockey for the players eastern european names and when he was just kinda trying to learn about basketball. Hes about 3 years late on everything.

 

Hahaha...Wittenmeyer is a journalist. B&B are blowhards on the radio. There's a reason that he's not "as bad". Bernstein is an ass, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

[jersey cubs fan]

lmao when goony and kyle are on the same page, you know you can just outright ignore whatever they're saying without consequence

 

Wait I can't do that all the time?

 

ct, bringing the takes:

 

This may somehow be the dumbest thing I've seen here.

 

Yup, officially the dumbest thing ever.

 

We briefly interrupt this stupid with a minor update:

 

Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine

MLB source believes Cubs are lead team for Tanaka .

 

It's the last week you guys. Thank you for making this thread extra dumb.

 

[Sammy Sofa]

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[ctcf]

Those are *hot* takes, bro

[JoseHernandez18]

Thank you for pouring all of your resources into another winner Ricketts Fam, we are so lucky to have fans as owners.