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Wait, do you think most of the roster won't be the same next year?

 

If you're asking me, I don't go by predictions (and projections). Obviously with names being floated in trade rumors and holes to fill in the offseason, I would imagine there will be some different names on the roster by the beginning of the season.

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backtobanks: do you agree that a 2014 season will take place?
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Wait, do you think most of the roster won't be the same next year?

 

If you're asking me, I don't go by predictions (and projections). Obviously with names being floated in trade rumors and holes to fill in the offseason, I would imagine there will be some different names on the roster by the beginning of the season.

 

Right, but the team is still mostly going to be the same. We're not talking about trades that are dismantling the team. And that first sentence should somehow be tattooed onto you.

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Coolstandings had them at 1.1%.

 

ESPN has the Cubs at 2.8% today, fwiw.

 

The Cubs have a better shot at the playoffs than the Bulls had of drafting Derrick Rose.

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I wish we had started a poll the day Theo was hired and repeated the poll each Opening Day and each October asking the same question:

 

What year will the Cubs first contend (be within 5 spots of a playoff spot on or after Sept. 1)?

 

2012

2013

2014

2015

2016

2017

Later

 

I'd be curious to see how the answers changed. I feel like with myself I keep saying two years from whatever year we are in at the moment.

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i said from the beginning that i thought they'd tank in 2012, be significantly improved in 2013, be .500 or better in 2014, and then be good from 2015 on. i still feel like that's the timeline.
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Wait, do you think most of the roster won't be the same next year?

 

If you're asking me, I don't go by predictions (and projections).

 

What a weird statement. N&G wasn't asking you to name the 40 man roster next season. He's simply checking to make sure you understand that there will be, as there is every offseason, roster turnover.

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Wait, do you think most of the roster won't be the same next year?

 

If you're asking me, I don't go by predictions (and projections). Obviously with names being floated in trade rumors and holes to fill in the offseason, I would imagine there will be some different names on the roster by the beginning of the season.

 

Right, but the team is still mostly going to be the same. We're not talking about trades that are dismantling the team. And that first sentence should somehow be tattooed onto you.

 

The team will mostly be the same, but we've heard rumors (not that they will happen) of Samardzija, Schierholtz, Dejesus, etc. After trading Garza, Feldman, and Soriano, trading two of the names I mentioned might be described as "dismantling the team".

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i said from the beginning that i thought they'd tank in 2012, be significantly improved in 2013, be .500 or better in 2014, and then be good from 2015 on. i still feel like that's the timeline.

That was basically my thought as well, but I'd say the renovations and lack of money make .500 in 2014 at least a tad harder to get there. Gun to my head though, playoffs in 2015.

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i said from the beginning that i thought they'd tank in 2012, be significantly improved in 2013, be .500 or better in 2014, and then be good from 2015 on. i still feel like that's the timeline.

That was basically my thought as well, but I'd say the renovations and lack of money make .500 in 2014 at least a tad harder to get there. Gun to my head though, playoffs in 2015.

They've basically performed like a .500 team in 2013, though it's yet to be seen whether it continues after they lose two productive starting pitchers.

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I wish we had started a poll the day Theo was hired and repeated the poll each Opening Day and each October asking the same question:

 

What year will the Cubs first contend (be within 5 spots of a playoff spot on or after Sept. 1)?

 

2012

2013

2014

2015

2016

2017

Later

 

I'd be curious to see how the answers changed. I feel like with myself I keep saying two years from whatever year we are in at the moment.

 

What are you talking about? We're less than two years into the Theo regime. You're acting like he's been here for ages.

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The Cubs are closer to a playoff spot than the Cardinals were on Aug 27, 2011.

 

I wonder what the odds were of the Cardinals making the playoffs on that date.

 

Probably not all that terrible since the division was so awful. So depressing.

They won the wild card, and the Brewers won 96 games.

 

Bah, I was thinking 2006 when they won 83 games.

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Sad story- Former Cub Frank Castillo drowned, passes away at age 44. I remember when he came so close to a no-hitter in the mid 90's.

 

http://www.kvia.com/news/former-mlb-pitcher-el-paso-native-frank-castillo-has-died/-/391068/21230038/-/776yg/-/index.html

 

What the HELL did the mid/late 90's Cubs starting pitchers do to piss off the gods?

 

Jim Bullinger better watch his back.

 

Refresh memory...

 

Jeremi Gonzalez boating accident/lightning strike for one.

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Not a starting pitcher, but I forgot about Beck, too.
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very sad to hear about castillo.

 

I'll never forget that no-no he took into the 9th with two outs against the Cardinals.

 

[expletive] Bernard Gilkey.

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Holy cow, Bruce Levine is awful at this point.

 

He was on Waddle and Silvy. Silvy asked if the Sox were just posturing in saying they wanted to build around Peavy. Levine answered that the Sox don't need a rebuild like the Cubs because they have more of what you really need to win, pitching, and that they just need 3-4 bats. I don't even know where to begin with that, but it got worse. He then said the Sox don't have much in the minors except pitching prospect Pierce Johnson (I'm not even sure how the hell he managed that one) in the lower levels.

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Holy cow, Bruce Levine is awful at this point.

 

He was on Waddle and Silvy. Silvy asked if the Sox were just posturing in saying they wanted to build around Peavy. Levine answered that the Sox don't need a rebuild like the Cubs because they have more of what you really need to win, pitching, and that they just need 3-4 bats. I don't even know where to begin with that, but it got worse. He then said the Sox don't have much in the minors except pitching prospect Pierce Johnson (I'm not even sure how the hell he managed that one) in the lower levels.

 

I heard him saying something very similar the other day, along the lines that the Sox didn't need a "full rebuild" like the Cubs since they had young pitching, they just needed to add bats to "5 or 6 lineup spots".

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