The 2012 Offseason Thread

[davell]

Porcello would be a very nice get, in a deal for Marmol.

[KingCubsFan]

More like:

 

Detroit loses confidence and patience with Rondon

Cubs trade Marmol to Detroit for Rondon

Cubs corner offseason market on Rondons

Doesn't really make sense. They still like Rondon, they just don't think he's ready. Regardless of whether Marmol is on the team, he's still presumably their closer of the future.

[Guest]

More like:

 

Detroit loses confidence and patience with Rondon

Cubs trade Marmol to Detroit for Rondon

Cubs corner offseason market on Rondons

Doesn't really make sense. They still like Rondon, they just don't think he's ready. Regardless of whether Marmol is on the team, he's still presumably their closer of the future.

Mostly, I just wanted the punch line.

[Post Count Padder]

Closer Carlos Marmol doesn't appear long for the Cubs and is likely to start the season elsewhere, writes Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com. League sources say that several teams, including the Tigers, are taking a hard look at the reliever.

[mookie]

Here comes the move of the off season.

[PrimeTime]

In the Bruce chat today, he said they're more interested in Castanellos than they are Porcello. I'm sure they're asking the moon for him though.

[SouthSideRyan]

In the Bruce chat today, he said they're more interested in Castanellos than they are Porcello. I'm sure they're asking the moon for him though.

 

And they're more interested in Porcello than Mike Maroth. Thanks Bruce.

[imb]

hey maroth is the next tom glavine. i believe

[SouthSideRyan]

hey maroth is the next tom glavine. i believe

 

NOW THAT HE'S A CARDINAL LOL

[davell]

In the Bruce chat today, he said they're more interested in Castanellos than they are Porcello. I'm sure they're asking the moon for him though.

 

And they're more interested in Porcello than Mike Maroth. Thanks Bruce.

He also mentioned he wouldn't trade Chris Sale for ANYONE in baseball and said the White Sox have a top 5 rotation in baseball. To top it, off, while he admitted the White Sox probably couldn't get PROFAR for [expletive] Viciedo, he basicalky said he'd be hesitant to do it, because Viciedo can hit 30 homers. At one time, Levine had a grasp, due to having solid contacts inside Hendry's regime. He's got nothing now and he's proving he's an absolute blithering moron.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

In the Bruce chat today, he said they're more interested in Castanellos than they are Porcello. I'm sure they're asking the moon for him though.

 

And they're more interested in Porcello than Mike Maroth. Thanks Bruce.

He also mentioned he wouldn't trade Chris Sale for ANYONE in baseball and said the White Sox have a top 5 rotation in baseball. To top it, off, while he admitted the White Sox probably couldn't get PROFAR for [expletive] Viciedo, he basicalky said he'd be hesitant to do it, because Viciedo can hit 30 homers. At one time, Levine had a grasp, due to having solid contacts inside Hendry's regime. He's got nothing now and he's proving he's an absolute blithering moron.

 

Levine is a moron.

[Backtobanks]

In the Bruce chat today, he said they're more interested in Castanellos than they are Porcello. I'm sure they're asking the moon for him though.

 

I suppose we would have to throw in Stewart to get Castanellos. :lol:

[Cubswin11]

AZ Phil threw out this trade on PSD (not actually a 3 team trade, just Cubs making two separate trades and using parts to make both)

 

Tigers get:

Marmol (pay salary)

Zych

 

Cubs get:

Porcello

 

Rangers get:

Porcello

Villanueva or Candelario

 

Cubs get:

Olt

[Guest]

Just stop at Porcello.

[SouthSideRyan]

Just stop at Porcello.

 

I'd prefer we actually get somebody good

[davell]

Whats wrong with that? We don't even get Porcello. It winds up Marmol, Zych, and one of Villanueva/Candelario for Olt. I like the hell out of it. And seems realistic.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just stop at Porcello.

 

I'd prefer we actually get somebody good

 

Then we'd have to give up somebody actually good. I'm not a huge Porcello fan but that's still a ripoff in our favor.

[Guest]

Rick Porcello turned 24 in December, was a 3 win starter last year, has 3 years of team control, and has improved each of his years in MLB.

 

Mike Olt turned 24 in August, fell on his face in his MLB debut, and has struck out in 25% of his professional PAs(40 of which have come above AA).

[mookie]

Sinkerballer for the win!

[imb]

id do it just to see what porcello is capable of with an actual defense behind him

[Clem Fandango]

Rick Porcello turned 24 in December, was a 3 win starter last year, has 3 years of team control, and has improved each of his years in MLB.

 

Mike Olt turned 24 in August, fell on his face in his MLB debut, and has struck out in 25% of his professional PAs(40 of which have come above AA).

 

If by "fell on his face in his MLB debut" you mean they used him sporadically as a pinch hitter/occasional fill in to give some folks a rest during the last month of the season and never got consistent playing time over his WHOPPING 33 AT-BATS, well then yeah, he fell on his face.

 

You know who else fell on their face in their MLB debut? Jurickson Profar. What kind of [expletive] puts up a .176 batting average over 17AB's AND EXPECTS TO GET AWAY WITH IT WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING?!?!?!

 

Jurickson Profar? More like Jerkison Sofar, amirite?

[Guest]

Rick Porcello turned 24 in December, was a 3 win starter last year, has 3 years of team control, and has improved each of his years in MLB.

 

Mike Olt turned 24 in August, fell on his face in his MLB debut, and has struck out in 25% of his professional PAs(40 of which have come above AA).

 

If by "fell on his face in his MLB debut" you mean they used him sporadically as a pinch hitter/occasional fill in to give some folks a rest during the last month of the season and never got consistent playing time over his WHOPPING 33 AT-BATS, well then yeah, he fell on his face.

 

You know who else fell on their face in their MLB debut? Jurickson Profar. What kind of [expletive] puts up a .176 batting average over 17AB's AND EXPECTS TO GET AWAY WITH IT WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING?!?!?!

 

Jurickson Profar? More like Jerkison Sofar, amirite?

Olt has Brett Jackson without the new swing disease.

[Clem Fandango]

Rick Porcello turned 24 in December, was a 3 win starter last year, has 3 years of team control, and has improved each of his years in MLB.

 

Mike Olt turned 24 in August, fell on his face in his MLB debut, and has struck out in 25% of his professional PAs(40 of which have come above AA).

 

If by "fell on his face in his MLB debut" you mean they used him sporadically as a pinch hitter/occasional fill in to give some folks a rest during the last month of the season and never got consistent playing time over his WHOPPING 33 AT-BATS, well then yeah, he fell on his face.

 

You know who else fell on their face in their MLB debut? Jurickson Profar. What kind of [expletive] puts up a .176 batting average over 17AB's AND EXPECTS TO GET AWAY WITH IT WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING?!?!?!

 

Jurickson Profar? More like Jerkison Sofar, amirite?

Olt has Brett Jackson without the new swing disease.

 

Except Mike Olt has actually improved each year offensively he's been in the minors as opposed to regressing like Brett Jackson.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Except Mike Olt has actually improved each year offensively he's been in the minors as opposed to regressing like Brett Jackson.

 

While playing at lower levels every year despite being the same age.

[Guest]

Rick Porcello turned 24 in December, was a 3 win starter last year, has 3 years of team control, and has improved each of his years in MLB.

 

Mike Olt turned 24 in August, fell on his face in his MLB debut, and has struck out in 25% of his professional PAs(40 of which have come above AA).

 

If by "fell on his face in his MLB debut" you mean they used him sporadically as a pinch hitter/occasional fill in to give some folks a rest during the last month of the season and never got consistent playing time over his WHOPPING 33 AT-BATS, well then yeah, he fell on his face.

 

You know who else fell on their face in their MLB debut? Jurickson Profar. What kind of [expletive] puts up a .176 batting average over 17AB's AND EXPECTS TO GET AWAY WITH IT WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING?!?!?!

 

Jurickson Profar? More like Jerkison Sofar, amirite?

 

He had a .432 OPS and struck out once every three times to the plate in his only exposure above AA. The point is not that 40 sporadic PA's make Olt a failure, the point is that he didn't do anything at the MLB level, which is important considering his age, zero AAA plate appearances, and his 25% K rate as a professional(which is higher than Jackson's through AA, since you brought him up).