2013 College Football off-season

[imb]

They spoke on the phone all the [expletive] time.

 

You're willful ignorant and then don't see why your conclusions are illogical. Fun.

Is the bit that you're talking to yourself? Help me out here.

 

The bit is omc, nuts, and others earlier claiming te'o never spoke to her and that he should have figured it out when she didn't speak to him. Even if you ignored the presser today, which is dumb, but even if you did, the story has always been about their long conversations at night and falling asleep on the phone and him calling her first thing in the morning, etc, etc.

 

Ignoring basic facts to draw these conclusions makes you look stupid. Doing so and calling me stupid makes you an ass.*

 

*not you, wolfie, "you" the people that are doing that.

 

yes that totally believable story. he lied about his dead fake girlfriend but was totally telling the truth about all the phone conversations with the dead fake girlfriend

[wolf stansson]

They spoke on the phone all the [expletive] time.

 

You're willful ignorant and then don't see why your conclusions are illogical. Fun.

Is the bit that you're talking to yourself? Help me out here.

 

The bit is omc, nuts, and others earlier claiming te'o never spoke to her and that he should have figured it out when she didn't speak to him. Even if you ignored the presser today, which is dumb, but even if you did, the story has always been about their long conversations at night and falling asleep on the phone and him calling her first thing in the morning, etc, etc.

 

Ignoring basic facts to draw these conclusions makes you look stupid. Doing so and calling me stupid makes you an ass.*

 

*not you, wolfie, "you" the people that are doing that.

Oh no, I am ABSOLUTELY doing that.

 

What you think the truth is doesn't matter, we don't have enough facts to determine if he lied and was a victim or lied and was complicit. What we do know is that you have reacted like a crazy.

[abuck1220]

the only evidence that it lasted that long is that Te'o claimed to meet the girl in California in 2009, a fact we all now know to be false.

 

right. which is why we know that, at the very least, te'o was lying about something. i mean, he said he met her FACE TO FACE. unless they found an actress to play the role who also happened to look very much like the girl whose facebook photo they later stole, TE'O LIED ABOUT THIS. are you at least willing to admit that, MR?

 

He certainly lied to his parents about meeting her as his dad was quoted in the SB tribune about their meetings in Hawaii. I've asked here, b/c I honestly don't know, whether he lied to the media about meeting her. It's been reported that he gave his number to a woman at the Stanford game in '09 and that he believed that this girl was that same woman. I don't remember seeing Manti quoted saying that he met her in person after she contacted him in 2011. Have you seen that somewhere - a quote from him about meeting her?

 

no, not after 2009 or whatever. just the hawaii stuff (said by his dad apparently) and the stuff about them locking eyes after the stanford game in '09.

[Outshined_One]

The best, most complete run down of the whole thing: http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend-breaks-the-internet.php

 

Because if you boil down Notre Dame's story right now, what it tells us is that everyone else but Te'o lied.

 

That just about sums it up.

[Sammy Sofa]

ND/Swarbrick said that Te'o was the victim not that he never lied about anything (e.g. faking a physical relationship with someone he only knew online).

 

So, what, they just completely sidestepped that he had to have lied to his family about this? [expletive], at the very least he lied about how they [expletive] met!

Edited January 17, 2013 by Sammy Sofa

[Tracer Bullet]

They spoke on the phone all the [expletive] time.

 

You're willful ignorant and then don't see why your conclusions are illogical. Fun.

 

yes they spoke on the phone all teh time, 8 hours a night as he listened to her raspy death throes i mean come the [expletive] on you idiot

 

[expletive] off you idiot. no one believes they spoke literally every night for hours on end.

 

he's either insanely clever and can pull off this huge hoax for years (with no benefit to himself).

 

or he's incredibly stupid and would ruin his NFL career in order to pull off this hoax for no benefit to himself.

 

Never the twain shall meet.

[OleMissCub]

Via twitter:

 

Karl Rove is reporting that Manti Te'o's girlfriend might still exist.

[Sammy Sofa]

Actually, it's much, much, much less of a huge hoax if he's behind it as opposed to him getting supermegaultrapunk'd.

[imb]

no matter what, he's incredibly stupid

 

he's either the gooniest [expletive] alive and passed up years of unstoppable [expletive] for a dead fake twitter girlfriend and FELL FOR THE STUPIDEST MADE UP FAKE STORY EVER

 

or he thought he could get away with this phony [expletive]

[Guest]

@lonestarball: Its fascinating that a girl killing herself after getting raped by a player doesn't faze Swarbrick, but Teo's fake g.f. brings him to tears.

[Smack]

@lonestarball: Its fascinating that a girl killing herself after getting raped by a player doesn't faze Swarbrick, but Teo's fake g.f. brings him to tears.

 

telling

[Tracer Bullet]

the only thing that makes me consider that there is a 0.5% chance of te'o telling some version of the truth is that you have to be a stone cold sociopath to double down on your real grandma actually dying by throwing in the story about your made up girlfriend dying.

 

all jokes aside, the only story that makes even the slightest bit of sense is that he made up the girlfriend story because he is gay and needed to explain why he wasn't knee deep in [expletive] 24 hours a day and the lie just spiraled out of control. because it would be INSANE for someone to spend literally HUNDREDS OF HOURS over 3 years JUST TO [expletive] WITH THIS GUY. and it would be perhaps slightly less insane for te'o just to make up the story for sympathy/PR/attention. the other possibility is that te'o is schizophrenic or something.

 

Except, it was a year, maybe 18 months.

 

these catfishing hoaxes aren't 2 week affairs. the people behind them are cruel and probably a little insane. people literally do this to tons of people every day.

[Sammy Sofa]

@lonestarball: Its fascinating that a girl killing herself after getting raped by a player doesn't faze Swarbrick, but Teo's fake g.f. brings him to tears.

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

the only thing that makes me consider that there is a 0.5% chance of te'o telling some version of the truth is that you have to be a stone cold sociopath to double down on your real grandma actually dying by throwing in the story about your made up girlfriend dying.

 

all jokes aside, the only story that makes even the slightest bit of sense is that he made up the girlfriend story because he is gay and needed to explain why he wasn't knee deep in [expletive] 24 hours a day and the lie just spiraled out of control. because it would be INSANE for someone to spend literally HUNDREDS OF HOURS over 3 years JUST TO [expletive] WITH THIS GUY. and it would be perhaps slightly less insane for te'o just to make up the story for sympathy/PR/attention. the other possibility is that te'o is schizophrenic or something.

 

Except, it was a year, maybe 18 months.

 

these catfishing hoaxes aren't 2 week affairs. the people behind them are cruel and probably a little insane. people literally do this to tons of people every day.

 

So did they tell him to make up all the [expletive] about their relationship or did he come up with it on his own? Catfishes is crafty.

[SpongeWorthy]

no matter what, he's incredibly stupid

 

he's either the gooniest [expletive] alive and passed up years of unstoppable [expletive] for a dead fake twitter girlfriend and FELL FOR THE STUPIDEST MADE UP FAKE STORY EVER

 

or he thought he could get away with this phony [expletive]

 

I said this earlier but why would a long distance girlfriend, fake or otherwise, preclude him from banging chicks in South Bend? Would you be shocked if Tebow wasn't a virgin in college too?

[imb]

no matter what, he's incredibly stupid

 

he's either the gooniest [expletive] alive and passed up years of unstoppable [expletive] for a dead fake twitter girlfriend and FELL FOR THE STUPIDEST MADE UP FAKE STORY EVER

 

or he thought he could get away with this phony [expletive]

 

I said this earlier but why would a long distance girlfriend, fake or otherwise, preclude him from banging chicks in South Bend? Would you be shocked if Tebow wasn't a virgin in college too?

 

you know what i mean. he literally could have had anyone in like a 4 state radius be an actual girlfriend but yeah he totally fell for this dead fake girlfriend he'd only touched on the hand once. its preposterous

[SpongeWorthy]

no matter what, he's incredibly stupid

 

he's either the gooniest [expletive] alive and passed up years of unstoppable [expletive] for a dead fake twitter girlfriend and FELL FOR THE STUPIDEST MADE UP FAKE STORY EVER

 

or he thought he could get away with this phony [expletive]

 

I said this earlier but why would a long distance girlfriend, fake or otherwise, preclude him from banging chicks in South Bend? Would you be shocked if Tebow wasn't a virgin in college too?

 

you know what i mean. he literally could have had anyone in like a 4 state radius be an actual girlfriend but yeah he totally fell for this dead fake girlfriend he'd only touched on the hand once. its preposterous

 

Could've been some Samoan thing. Or an excuse to tell all the local tail that he's just having fun because his real girlfriend is miles away.

 

But as far as I'm concerned, the whole thing hinges on who was operating that fake online identity. If it's the Tuiasasopo guy like Deadspin suggests, then Te'o was definitely in on it to some degree.

Edited January 17, 2013 by SpongeWorthy

[Magnetic Curses]

Don't project the crazy in this thread onto me.

 

Yeah, everyone is crazy except for the guy with the made up dead girlfriend and you.

 

Yeah. It's not the people that are willfully ignorant and then drawing conclusions like "why didn't he just call her? What an idiot!" Those people aren't crazy.

 

Nope, not crazy at all. Just enjoying the hilarity.

 

No, he's right. The people laughing at teo are crazy and married to a concept that they must protect at all cost for some reason.

[Outshined_One]

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[wolf stansson]

The cabal of geniuses: https://twitter.com/jayRahz/status/278973792544505858

?

[rocket]

I mean, I didn't want it to be true that Chris Benoit was a murderer, but you have to let go at some point

[Tracer Bullet]

Don't project the crazy in this thread onto me.

 

Yeah, everyone is crazy except for the guy with the made up dead girlfriend and you.

 

Yeah. It's not the people that are willfully ignorant and then drawing conclusions like "why didn't he just call her? What an idiot!" Those people aren't crazy.

 

Nope, not crazy at all. Just enjoying the hilarity.

 

No, he's right. The people laughing at teo are crazy and married to a concept that they must protect at all cost for some reason.

 

my god. laugh at te'o all you want. he's likely gullible and foolish. but i don't think he's a psychopath, which is what he'd have to be.

[Tracer Bullet]

no matter what, he's incredibly stupid

 

he's either the gooniest [expletive] alive and passed up years of unstoppable [expletive] for a dead fake twitter girlfriend and FELL FOR THE STUPIDEST MADE UP FAKE STORY EVER

 

or he thought he could get away with this phony [expletive]

 

I said this earlier but why would a long distance girlfriend, fake or otherwise, preclude him from banging chicks in South Bend? Would you be shocked if Tebow wasn't a virgin in college too?

 

you know what i mean. he literally could have had anyone in like a 4 state radius be an actual girlfriend but yeah he totally fell for this dead fake girlfriend he'd only touched on the hand once. its preposterous

 

that's what it's about for you? he didn't bang a bunch of college girls so he must have made up a gf in CA and killed her off? no other possible explanation?

[Guest]

Okay, let's try laying out some statements and try to construct a narrative, because I'm weird and that's fun. Let's take Te'o's word except for where he's admitted or it's been proven that he lied.

 

Te'o's claims:

- He met a girl online, and best we can tell started interacting with her via twitter in late 2011(remember Lennay's twitter)

- They became close and became a couple. They never met in person, but would often have extensive phone calls, meaning that Te'o was hearing a female voice.

- She gets in a car crash, and shortly thereafter is diagnosed with cancer and dies not long thereafter. He maintains contact but doesn't attempt to go see her or visit her funeral according to her wishes.

- He previously had told stories of meeting her for the first time in person at a game and exchanging numbers, which we now understand to be untrue.

- He had made arrangements to meet Lennay on more than one occasion, but those plans fell through.

 

- Te'o is both Samoan and a Mormon, and from what I'm told led a sheltered life that would make him susceptible to this type of con.

 

Other people's claims:

Swarbrick - Says that the relationship was "exclusively online"

 

Reagan Mauia (Samoan NFLer) - Says he met someone claiming to be Lennay Kekua in 2011 before she met Manti, and that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo introduced them

 

Matthew Masifilo (former Stanford player from Hawaii) - Says Te'o would "always ask us(Stanford players) if they knew [Lennay]". Masifilo's last Stanford/ND game is 11/26/11, and the quote seems to imply that this happened more than once.

 

Deadspin composite - Lennay's twitter avatar is a picture that only Tuiasosopo would have access to. Others claim that Tuiasosopo invented Lennay. re: Tuiasosopo, he and Manti talk via twitter with some frequency, he's considered a family friend of Manti's, and on Manti's one trip to the west coast this season, Tuiasosopo spent the evening before the game in Manti's company. He then supposedly had on-field passes to the ND/USC game, possibly from Manti.

 

So the thing that I struggle the most with about Te'o as a victim, is why he's so close to the guy who seems to be very closely tied to the fake girl that is embarrassing him now? Is it some sort of epic backstabbing? Even if we take Te'o at his word, assume that what he says now is the true sequence of events, and believe him capable of being duped to this level, even if we take Masifilo's comment narrowly and that Te'o referenced Lennay the one time after they supposedly had struck up a relationship, and even if we believe that there are people who would go through the effort to put together such a hoax. Why is it the guy he's hanging out with when he goes back near his home? The theory that seems to fill in the most blanks is that Tuiasosopo created Lennay a long time ago, possibly as a fake beard, and he and Te'o co-opted it as he became a big man on campus as a way to keep up with appearances. It doesn't answer it 100%(why does Te'o tell ND about it when he does, for example?), but I find it far more fitting with what we do know than Te'o falling for a year-long hoax of a girlfriend that is being perpetrated by someone he appears to be pretty close to.

[rocket]

He's a psychopath