Re: 2012-13 Chicago Bulls Thread

[SpongeWorthy]

And the handling of this from a PR stand point has been sloppy as hell but nothing so bad that a few exciting games or even plays won't fix once he's back.

 

Who cares about the PR? It's abundantly clear that the vast majority of Bulls fans aren't seriously bothered by this and are fine with whatever Rose decides. My concern is about the Bulls FO actually running the team well.

 

We're not even 11 months into what was always described as an 8-12 month recovery time. I have a lot of nits to pick with the front office but them not forcing Rose's hand (YET) isn't one of them. It was always a possibility he'd miss the whole year.

 

That being said, I do think there is a low-level boil going on in terms of anger from a certain percentage of Bulls fans which will only increase the more time he misses and the more incoherent the messaging gets.

[Sammy Sofa]

And the handling of this from a PR stand point has been sloppy as hell but nothing so bad that a few exciting games or even plays won't fix once he's back.

 

Who cares about the PR? It's abundantly clear that the vast majority of Bulls fans aren't seriously bothered by this and are fine with whatever Rose decides. My concern is about the Bulls FO actually running the team well.

 

We're not even 11 months into what was always described as an 8-12 month recovery time. I have a lot of nits to pick with the front office but them not forcing Rose's hand (YET) isn't one of them. It was always a possibility he'd miss the whole year.

 

That being said, I do think there is a low-level boil going on in terms of anger from a certain percentage of Bulls fans which will only increase the more time he misses and the more incoherent the messaging gets.

 

Yeah, but those timeframe estimates were based on when he's be medically cleared to play, not "when Rose feels like he should." If it was the medical specialists coming back and saying, "yeah, he's not ready, he might miss the whole season," fine, nobody would be questioning anything. When he's apparently medically cleared to play but he's deciding to not take the next recovery step, OK, what the [expletive]? That's not what anyone was picturing when it was projected he might miss a year.

[Banedon]

http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/03/rose-says-hes-closer-but-not-there-yet/

 

There’s been this notion among some that Rose should play this season to get past the uncertainty that could haunt him in the offseason and that might delay his start into next season. But Rose reportedly has been assured by USA Basketball he would be among the players to be with them this summer as they prepare for tryouts for the World Championships team. (now called World Cup). So Rose presumably would get plenty of “game” action before next season that would not delay his season.

[wolf stansson]

http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/03/rose-says-hes-closer-but-not-there-yet/

 

There’s been this notion among some that Rose should play this season to get past the uncertainty that could haunt him in the offseason and that might delay his start into next season. But Rose reportedly has been assured by USA Basketball he would be among the players to be with them this summer as they prepare for tryouts for the World Championships team. (now called World Cup). So Rose presumably would get plenty of “game” action before next season that would not delay his season.

#mouthfartnoise

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Edited March 13, 2013 by wolf stansson

[Sammy Sofa]

http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/03/rose-says-hes-closer-but-not-there-yet/

 

There’s been this notion among some that Rose should play this season to get past the uncertainty that could haunt him in the offseason and that might delay his start into next season. But Rose reportedly has been assured by USA Basketball he would be among the players to be with them this summer as they prepare for tryouts for the World Championships team. (now called World Cup). So Rose presumably would get plenty of “game” action before next season that would not delay his season.

 

Oh come the [expletive] on.

[Banedon]

http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/03/rose-says-hes-closer-but-not-there-yet/

 

There’s been this notion among some that Rose should play this season to get past the uncertainty that could haunt him in the offseason and that might delay his start into next season. But Rose reportedly has been assured by USA Basketball he would be among the players to be with them this summer as they prepare for tryouts for the World Championships team. (now called World Cup). So Rose presumably would get plenty of “game” action before next season that would not delay his season.

 

Oh come the [expletive] on.

 

Hey, don't you be doubting Sam Smith!

[USSoccer]

-If he blows off the season but plays for USA Basketball in the summer, the meatball brigade will be out in full force.

 

-If Jay Cutler pulled this [expletive] the noise would be deafening.

[Tyrant]

They're not coming close to beating Miami this year so I just can't make myself care if he comes back. I get that game action is part of the recovery process. But who cares if he gets off to a slow start next year while adapting to that? It's not even a given that he will. The season lasts forever and there is plenty of time for him to get in shape as the season goes on.

[Sammy Sofa]

They're not coming close to beating Miami this year so I just can't make myself care if he comes back.

 

that's completely irrelevant to the point it shouldn't even have to be said in the first place.

 

I get that game action is part of the recovery process. But who cares if he gets off to a slow start next year while adapting to that? It's not even a given that he will. The season lasts forever and there is plenty of time for him to get in shape as the season goes on.

 

Why put it off when you can ideally get it over with sooner? If he's waiting for some magical point where he can step on the court and be at or near 100% and feel no pain or discomfort then he's never coming back; he's not playing right now because of ridiculously and pointlessly high standards he's set.

[Magnetic Curses]

dan bernstein keeps saying that someone's return from an ACL injury isn't done when they step back on the court. it's obviously going to be the final step, but it's not finished. he's definitely not going to feel comfortable playing until he gets back on the court. he needs a push.

[Tyrant]

They're not coming close to beating Miami this year so I just can't make myself care if he comes back.

 

that's completely irrelevant to the point it shouldn't even have to be said in the first place.

 

Okay

[SouthSideRyan]

LEBRON WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS

[illiniguy]

LEBRON WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS

HGH helps you heal so much faster. Apples to oranges.

[Sammy Sofa]

LEBRON WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS

HGH helps you heal so much faster. Apples to oranges.

 

If Rose isn't doing the same then he's even stupider than he already is.

[scarey]

There really is no need to have him out there yet to play live ball. Yes, he will eventually have to play again. Does it need to be right at this instant? No.

 

I've listened to Bernstein for the last week argue, and shout, and plead that Rose NEEDS to get back on the court. I think the guy is trying to be devil's advocate to all the people that keep saying this year doesn't really even matter, especially the meatballs. Will I be concerned if he doesn't come back to play at all this year? Sure. I'm still not going to freak out though.

 

Just ask yourself: what benefit is it to anyone if Rose comes back to play sooner rather than later?

 

In my eyes, there's virtually no benefit. Does that mean he absolutely shouldn't? No, but to get up in arms about him not returning immediately is just not worth it.

[Sammy Sofa]

Wait, what? What's the benefit to continuing the rehab process of a literally game-changing injury sooner rather than later? This isn't something someone should have to ask.

[SouthSideRyan]

LEBRON WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS

HGH helps you heal so much faster. Apples to oranges.

 

If Rose isn't doing the same then he's even stupider than he already is.

 

dair classes taut me to never get hgh

[scarey]

Wait, what? What's the benefit to continuing the rehab process of a literally game-changing injury sooner rather than later? This isn't something someone should have to ask.

 

 

Well, he eventually has to move to the next level of his rehab process, yes. It just doesn't have to be now. Is it silly for him not to? Maybe. But unless there's some potential upside, why push him to do it right now? There's no reason to do so.

[Sammy Sofa]

Wait, what? What's the benefit to continuing the rehab process of a literally game-changing injury sooner rather than later? This isn't something someone should have to ask.

 

 

Well, he eventually has to move to the next level of his rehab process, yes. It just doesn't have to be now. Is it silly for him not to? Maybe. But unless there's some potential upside, why push him to do it right now? There's no reason to do so.

 

I wasn't saying "literally game-changing" just for kicks; this is something that he needs to adjust to and potentially figure out how to be a different player than he was before (which impacts the players around him and how his coaches approach him). That's a HUGE reason for him to play sooner rather than later.

 

And I'd flip around your post and say there's no reason for him not to play right now. There's absolutely no upside to him not playing whereas there's pretty huge reasons to get him back ASAP.

[Tyrant]

And I'd flip around your post and say there's no reason for him not to play right now.

 

Maybe he's actually not physically ready.

[Sammy Sofa]

And I'd flip around your post and say there's no reason for him not to play right now.

 

Maybe he's actually not physically ready.

 

Not according to the medical experts.

 

Seriously, you think anyone is expecting him to play if he hasn't been cleared by the doctors/trainers?

[Wilson A2000]

Right now Rose's problem is all mental and he has to get over it. He isn't helping the health of his knee one bit by waiting one more day to play. He is just delaying his full recovery. If you are cleared by team doctors, you are expected to play. Rose is getting paid, and now it's time to earn that pay.

[Careless]

This is embarrassing.

[WrigleyField 22]

I want Rose to be back exactly when the doctors say he is ready. Any decisions to speed it or slow it is useless meddling by people who aren't doctors and don't know what they are talking about.

 

If Rose isn't actually medically ready now, I'm worried.

 

That's not to say you don't watch his progression very closely, and possibly even limit playing time, but it's been months since there was anything wrong with his ACL (unless the surgery was botched). Why keep him out any longer?

[Careless]

Losing by 39 4.5 minutes into the second half. To Sacramento.