Dodgers Win Bid for Ryu-Hyun Jin ($25.7 M)

[sneakypower]

Yeah, they are, considering they couldn't seal the deal on three of the five guys you listed I really don't care how much many "Good Try!" ribbons they rack up. This is a team that should have stupid money at their beck and call.

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[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, they are, considering they couldn't seal the deal on three of the five guys you listed I really don't care how much many "Good Try!" ribbons they rack up. This is a team that should have stupid money at their beck and call.

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Yup, wanting better than 2 out of 5 when it comes to the biggest international FA available is wanting the Cubs to sign everyone.

 

The new FO hyped up international FA singing as being a major part of their building process: so far they've been beaten out on 3 out of 5 chances. No, it's not for lack of trying, but I hope that those misses have inspired them to try even harder and get more of these deals done. I don't think that's an unreasonable wish at all.

[davell]

This is definitely an interesting test case though. I've heard nothing about his potential posting fee. Is he a 10 mill type or a 30 mill type? If its the former, Keith Law may be right in listing him at 37 on his FA list. If he goes for a bunch though, it'll show teams look at him as much more than a RP. If we miss out, I'm growing increasingly confident we'll wind up with 2 of McCarthy, Marcum, and Liriano. Although, we'd need to add another guy with at least a semi decent resume as well, to guard against injuries. My guess on Ryu is 28 mill posting fee to the Dodgers.

[mul21]

 

Yeah, they are, considering they couldn't seal the deal on three of the five guys you listed I really don't care how much many "Good Try!" ribbons they rack up. This is a team that should have stupid money at their beck and call.

 

Or, the Cubs got twice as many international FAs as any other team did. You do realize there are 29 other teams out there competing for resources right?

[mul21]

This is definitely an interesting test case though. I've heard nothing about his potential posting fee. Is he a 10 mill type or a 30 mill type? If its the former, Keith Law may be right in listing him at 37 on his FA list. If he goes for a bunch though, it'll show teams look at him as much more than a RP. If we miss out, I'm growing increasingly confident we'll wind up with 2 of McCarthy, Marcum, and Liriano. Although, we'd need to add another guy with at least a semi decent resume as well, to guard against injuries. My guess on Ryu is 28 mill posting fee to the Dodgers.

 

I think I'd be surprised if it goes much above $20 mil. Just not enough concrete info on this guy to determine where he'd fit in I don't think and even if you project him as a 3 at his ceiling, do you pay more than $20 to get him?

[Sammy Sofa]

 

Yeah, they are, considering they couldn't seal the deal on three of the five guys you listed I really don't care how much many "Good Try!" ribbons they rack up. This is a team that should have stupid money at their beck and call.

 

Or, the Cubs got twice as many international FAs as any other team did. You do realize there are 29 other teams out there competing for resources right?

 

Of course. I want them to get more. We all do. Pointing out how close they came on their misses accomplishes nothing except emphasizing my point that they need to try that much harder to seal the deal more often with these international signings. What we perceive as the Cubs' financial advantage already doesn't separate them from as many teams as it did before, and that gap is only going to continue to shrink as time goes on.

[davell]

This is definitely an interesting test case though. I've heard nothing about his potential posting fee. Is he a 10 mill type or a 30 mill type? If its the former, Keith Law may be right in listing him at 37 on his FA list. If he goes for a bunch though, it'll show teams look at him as much more than a RP. If we miss out, I'm growing increasingly confident we'll wind up with 2 of McCarthy, Marcum, and Liriano. Although, we'd need to add another guy with at least a semi decent resume as well, to guard against injuries. My guess on Ryu is 28 mill posting fee to the Dodgers.

 

I think I'd be surprised if it goes much above $20 mil. Just not enough concrete info on this guy to determine where he'd fit in I don't think and even if you project him as a 3 at his ceiling, do you pay more than $20 to get him?

Yeah, if he's a legit 3, I'd be fine if we went into the 30's honestly. He's 25, and you'd have to think his actual contract would be less than Darvish got. Which was 6/56. So, if you gave him a 6/40 contract, along with a 32 mill posting fee(for easy math) it turns into 12 mill a year for a legit 3, which I'd be perfectly fine with.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yeah, if he's a legit 3, I'd be fine if we went into the 30's honestly. He's 25, and you'd have to think his actual contract would be less than Darvish got. Which was 6/56. So, if you gave him a 6/40 contract, along with a 32 mill posting fee(for easy math) it turns into 12 mill a year for a legit 3, which I'd be perfectly fine with.

 

That seems like way, way too much. It's not good strategy to be paying so much that it's only OK if he hits his best case scenario.

[Guest]

I dunno, a contract that pays him like a 2-2.5 win pitcher on the high end of potential posting fees doesn't seem to be that bad to me. Sure that's a lot of years to hope for that production, but he's also only 25.

[XZero771679666304]

I was thinking the high end would be 15MM, as far as the posting fee goes. Remember, most of the teams bidding on Darvish were (reportedly) well below 30MM, and Ryu-Hyun Jin isn't even a weak approximation of Darvish. While I'm all for being aggressive, if there's a debate about whether this guy is a MOR starter or long man, I wouldn't be thrilled with bidding a whole lot.

 

If the Dodgers were to bid even 20MM and won, I would have zero angst over it.

[Clem Fandango]

My guess (which is just a hunch) is a posting fee between $15-$20 mil and a Cespedes like contract of 4/36, whcih would bring the total cost of contract + posting fee around what the price was for for either Darvish's posting fee or his contract total Edited November 9, 2012 by The Logan

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I was thinking the high end would be 15MM, as far as the posting fee goes. Remember, most of the teams bidding on Darvish were (reportedly) well below 30MM, and Ryu-Hyun Jin isn't even a weak approximation of Darvish. While I'm all for being aggressive, if there's a debate about whether this guy is a MOR starter or long man, I wouldn't be thrilled with bidding a whole lot.

 

If the Dodgers were to bid even 20MM and won, I would have zero angst over it.

 

Agreed. I'll be glad to get angsty over premium talents. But this guy's deal is that he might be an okay lefthanded starter and he might not be. Not exactly someone I'm going to bash them for not getting. Until I feel like bashing them later.

[mul21]

I was thinking the high end would be 15MM, as far as the posting fee goes. Remember, most of the teams bidding on Darvish were (reportedly) well below 30MM, and Ryu-Hyun Jin isn't even a weak approximation of Darvish. While I'm all for being aggressive, if there's a debate about whether this guy is a MOR starter or long man, I wouldn't be thrilled with bidding a whole lot.

 

If the Dodgers were to bid even 20MM and won, I would have zero angst over it.

 

Agreed. I'll be glad to get angsty over premium talents. But this guy's deal is that he might be an okay lefthanded starter and he might not be. Not exactly someone I'm going to bash them for not getting. Until I feel like bashing them later.

 

You should make more posts like this where you blatantly embrace your flopping. :good:

[Guest]

Wow, didn't think it would get that high.

 

@MyKBO: Ryu Hyun-jin's winning bid is $25,737,737.33

[Guest]

Wow, didn't think it would get that high.

 

@MyKBO: Ryu Hyun-jin's winning bid is $25,737,737.33

Holy crap...I'm kinda hoping it isn't us. But I also am hoping it's us.

 

I'm conflicted.

[Guest]

Good thinking by the winning team adding that change in there, in case somebody bid $25,737,737.00

[Cubswin11]

Wow, didn't think it would get that high.

 

@MyKBO: Ryu Hyun-jin's winning bid is $25,737,737.33

Holy crap...I'm kinda hoping it isn't us. But I also am hoping it's us.

 

I'm conflicted.

Yeah, the Bid+Contract is probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50mm for the total investment on him.

[Guest]

It's us.

 

お先真っ暗 ‏@osaki_makkura

 

Chicago Cubs have won the exclusive negotiating right for Ryu-hyun-Jin with a record $25.7 million posting fee.　#mlb

[Cubswin11]

I wonder if we just have the highest big, or if his Japan team did indeed accept our offer and now we can start negotiating? I would think $25mm+ would be enough for them to accept, so by us winning the bid I assume that means they accepted. Edited November 10, 2012 by Cubswin11

[MWV]

Would the internet please inform me as to how I should feel about this?

[Guest]

Would the internet please inform me as to how I should feel about this?

 

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[MSG T]

Would the internet please inform me as to how I should feel about this?

 

That's kind of how I feel. I'm happy, but conflicted.

[Guest]

Would the internet please inform me as to how I should feel about this?

Happy that when players who fit the profile the FO is after, they will pay handsomely to get them.

 

Concerned that an overweight, untested pitcher may be the free agent they pay the most for this offseason.

[MSG T]

Would the internet please inform me as to how I should feel about this?

Happy that when player who fit the profile the FO is after, they will pay handsomely to get them.

 

Concerned that an overweight, untested pitcher may be the free agent they pay the most for this offseason.

 

 

Thanks, Tim.

[Guest]

David Wells comps abound everywhere.

 

When scouts see Ryu's portly frame, his goofiness and his knack for rising to the occasion, it's not hard to see why he's compared to David Wells.

 

In South Korea, Ryu became the first player to be named the league's rookie of the year and MVP in the same season, as he went 18-6, 2.23 with 205 strikeouts in 202 innings in 2006, leading the league in wins, ERA and strikeouts.

 

Ryu was the star as Korea surprised everyone to beat Cuba and win gold at the 2008 Olympics. He went 2-0, 1.04 in the tournament, including a masterful 8 1/3 innings in the gold-medal winning 3-2 win over Cuba.

 

Ryu played a very important, but slightly subordinate role to Jung Keun Bong at the World Baseball Classic, as the more veteran lefthander was called on to face Japan on three separate occasions (going 2-1) on his way to a World Baseball Classic all-tournament team selection.

 

But Ryu was impressive again at the WBC. He just turned 22, but he already pitches like a veteran. Ryu has four average to above-average pitches, includes a 86-93 mph fastball with late life that he can add and subtract from when needed, a slow curve (75 mph), a tighter slider and a changeup. Already extensively tested in international play, Ryu's biggest asset is his feel for pitching. Scouts have said that he would be a first-round pick if he was in the U.S., and would likely need only a brief period of acclimation before stepping into a big league rotation.

 

BA rated him better than Yoennis Cespedes back in 2009 with this scouting report.