Hypothetical Castro trades that'll never happen

[A New Era]

When black Friday rolls along, you often hear about these insane blockbuster deals like a 52 inch flat screen for $250. In reality, a very small amount of those $250 flat screens are available, and more customers than not are going to visit that store to find that the $250 flat screen is sold out. However, many of them figure that once they're in the store anyway, they'll do some browsing, and the salesmen show them some other bargains that they might not have wanted at first, such as an I Pod dock, some video games, a 24 boxed set, Carlos Marmol, or a lap top. Hopefully in our case, nobody walks home with Starlin Castro, but they do some bargain shopping anyway.

 

Nailed it.

 

You know he was sitting there, thinking he had to somehow comment on this, and when all was said and done that's what he came up with. Even da Bum would be shaking his head.

 

You might not like the way it's written, but what it comes down to is teams will call about Castro and be blown away by the price at which point Theo or Jed could sell them on one or more of 23 other guys.

 

I wasn't paying attention, but I think he snuck in a Carlos Marmol there. Well played friend.

[Guest]

You might not like the way it's written, but what it comes down to is teams will call about Castro and be blown away by the price at which point Theo or Jed could sell them on one or more of 23 other guys.

 

GMs are not going to get suckered into a bait and switch impulse buy where they call about Starlin Castro and wind up trading for Reed Johnson. How do you think these things work?

[MSG T]

You might not like the way it's written, but what it comes down to is teams will call about Castro and be blown away by the price at which point Theo or Jed could sell them on one or more of 23 other guys.

 

GMs are not going to get suckered into a bait and switch impulse buy where they call about Starlin Castro and wind up trading for Reed Johnson. How do you think these things work?

 

That conversation would be more like...

 

Other GM - Hey Jed, I see you willing to listen on Castro, what would you think of this (a couple of decent names).

 

Jed - you know, we're really not interested in dealing him unless we can get something along the the lines of a Strasburg and Harper combo for him. However, we would be interested in talking about Campana and Johnson.

 

Other GM - Uh, well, ah, hmm, ah, sorry about taking up your time, Jed... click

 

In reality, I doubt many (read that as any) GMs would call based off some anonymously sourced newspaper article. They would have gotten a pretty good sense of who's available and for what, roughly, from within the industry. And they ain't calling about Castro or Garza and getting suckered into lesser players.

[MSG T]

That last part was aimed more at WSR. Sorry TT, badly worded agreeing with you.

[TruffleShuffle]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

 

Yes. But the Angels say no.

[SouthSideRyan]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the good people at GRB were not very receptive to my requirement of Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras, and David Freese for Castro.

 

Pass.

 

Seriously.

[SouthSideRyan]

Teheran or Vizcaino, Beachy or Minor, and Heyward for Castro and 2-3 months of Dempster. Raise your hand if you'd say no. Maybe even replace Beachy or Minor with Hanson and Dempster with Garza?

 

I think the Braves broke Heyward

[Guest]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the good people at GRB were not very receptive to my requirement of Shelby Miller, Oscar Taveras, and David Freese for Castro.

 

Pass.

 

Seriously.

 

They especially didn't like that I said I'd have to be pretty pessimistic on Castro's future defense and power to make the deal. General consensus seems that they would trade Freese straight up for him, maybe Miller, not Taveras, and definitely not more than one. Which really illustrates how much of a dope Bob Nightengale is.

[Little Slide Rooter]

You might not like the way it's written, but what it comes down to is teams will call about Castro and be blown away by the price at which point Theo or Jed could sell them on one or more of 23 other guys.

 

GMs are not going to get suckered into a bait and switch impulse buy where they call about Starlin Castro and wind up trading for Reed Johnson. How do you think these things work?

 

Just the way it's written. Truth is, depending on a contender or fringe contender, guys like Reed Johnson, Jeff Baker, and Sean Camp could be useful. We won't get much for them, just a PTBNL, but he could package guys together, or package 1 or 2 of them with Marmol, Soriano, or Dempster to maximize the return.

 

Really just the "everyone's available" talk sounded more like a way to get people to come to the store. At any rate, the fact that whoever made the information available actually said what it would take to get Castro, not just everyone including Castro's available, so there must have been sone degree of discussions at one point even if they were blown out of proportion.

[scarey]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

 

Before this season, I would have taken some more consideration on this. I definitely wanted to see him get more time at SS, but was worried he was going to wind up at 2nd or 3rd. As it stands, I'm gaining more and more confidence that he was be an asset in the field at SS rather than just average or below average. The only shortstop in all of baseball that is on the same level in terms of value as Castro is Tulowitzki (I can see an argument to be made for Andrus).

 

I do believe Trout will be a great player and a better hitter than Castro. There's a good chance he'll have more defensive value as a CF than Castro at SS. However, a guy like Brett Jackson (assuming he develops into what he's been projected to develop into) is not as hard of a fall-off at CF as the next guy in line behind Castro (Alcantara? Hernandez?).

 

I pick Castro.

[Tracer Bullet]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

 

No

[BeerHere]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

 

No

I would be a "no" as well but it's pretty close.

[mul21]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

 

Before this season, I would have taken some more consideration on this. I definitely wanted to see him get more time at SS, but was worried he was going to wind up at 2nd or 3rd. As it stands, I'm gaining more and more confidence that he was be an asset in the field at SS rather than just average or below average. The only shortstop in all of baseball that is on the same level in terms of value as Castro is Tulowitzki (I can see an argument to be made for Andrus).

 

I do believe Trout will be a great player and a better hitter than Castro. There's a good chance he'll have more defensive value as a CF than Castro at SS. However, a guy like Brett Jackson (assuming he develops into what he's been projected to develop into) is not as hard of a fall-off at CF as the next guy in line behind Castro (Alcantara? Hernandez?).

 

I pick Castro.

 

I think this pretty much hits the nail on the head. It's much easier to find an above average guy at CF, or just about any other position outside of C, than it is to find an above average guy at SS. That said, I would take Castro pretty much every time as well.

[Little Slide Rooter]

starlin castro for mike trout straight up, yes or no?

 

Before this season, I would have taken some more consideration on this. I definitely wanted to see him get more time at SS, but was worried he was going to wind up at 2nd or 3rd. As it stands, I'm gaining more and more confidence that he was be an asset in the field at SS rather than just average or below average. The only shortstop in all of baseball that is on the same level in terms of value as Castro is Tulowitzki (I can see an argument to be made for Andrus).

 

I do believe Trout will be a great player and a better hitter than Castro. There's a good chance he'll have more defensive value as a CF than Castro at SS. However, a guy like Brett Jackson (assuming he develops into what he's been projected to develop into) is not as hard of a fall-off at CF as the next guy in line behind Castro (Alcantara? Hernandez?).

 

I pick Castro.

 

I think this pretty much hits the nail on the head. It's much easier to find an above average guy at CF, or just about any other position outside of C, than it is to find an above average guy at SS. That said, I would take Castro pretty much every time as well.

 

I'd take Trout over any prospect package, for the fact that Trout's pretty close to a sure thing. While a short stop that can hit is harder to find than a center fielder who can hit, a potential 3 hitter is a lot more difficult to come across than a guy who, in my opinion anyway will end up a great 2 hitter. Trout-Rizzo would be a hell of a heart of the lineup to build around, and our system as is doesnt have anyone who projects to be a 3 hitter, with the possible exception of Baez who we won't be seeing anytime soon.

[champaignchris]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

ESPN did their little 10 years draft, drafting a player based on how they will do over the next 10 years. They had 30 experts and 30 fans pick their top 30. Castro went 9th for the experts and didn't get picked by the fans. It was hilarious.

 

Castro probably doesn't look sexy to the common fan. They see the 10 HR and 66 RBI mid to high .700's OPS and supposedly terrible defense and ignore his age, position and hitting ability. Not to mention to expected increase in power.

 

Castro's currently on pace to hit .317, 13 HR, 104 RBI, 211 hits, and 49 steals. If he keeps that up, those are the type of stats that will make the non-SABRE-metrically inclined fan take notice.

[UMFan83]

Checking other team's boards to see what is being said and I've come to one conclusion, Starlin Castro is so underrated league wide it's ridiculous. No one seems to notice that what he's doing at age 22 is putting him amongst a long line of HoFers.

 

ESPN did their little 10 years draft, drafting a player based on how they will do over the next 10 years. They had 30 experts and 30 fans pick their top 30. Castro went 9th for the experts and didn't get picked by the fans. It was hilarious.

 

Castro probably doesn't look sexy to the common fan. They see the 10 HR and 66 RBI mid to high .700's OPS and supposedly terrible defense and ignore his age, position and hitting ability. Not to mention to expected increase in power.

 

Castro's currently on pace to hit .317, 13 HR, 104 RBI, 211 hits, and 49 steals. If he keeps that up, those are the type of stats that will make the non-SABRE-metrically inclined fan take notice.

 

No doubt. Other than the major issue with his walk rate, he's having an awesome season by anyone's standards.

[mookie]

I would trade Castro for Bryce, Strasburg, Carlos Gonzalez, Tulo, Longoria, or maybe Kemp. A piece of me would die inside if Castro wasn't a Cub, so the return would have to be other worldly.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I would trade Castro for Bryce, Strasburg, Carlos Gonzalez, Tulo, Longoria, or maybe Kemp. A piece of me would die inside if Castro wasn't a Cub, so the return would have to be other worldly.

 

Someone over at BN brought up Giancarlo Stanton, and I had to admit that was tempting.

[davell]

Strasburg is too risky, not sure on most of the others, but a definite no with him.

[mookie]

Oooooh Stanton. Yeah, I missed him. I am surprised you wouldn't take Strasburg Davell.

[bukie]

I'd take Kershaw or Verlander over Strasburg, and I'm not even sure I'd take one of them, as pitchers are inherently more risk than hitters.

[mookie]

No to Verlander, yes to Kershaw. Honestly, if arms were the target, I would be seeing what the Diamondbacks would give up. Bauer, Skaggs, Bradley. Hell, now that I am typing this, I don't know if I would pull the trigger for all three. I would definitely want a bat.

[UMFan83]

Strasburg is too risky, not sure on most of the others, but a definite no with him.

 

Why is Strasburg risky? Because he got Tommy John? Half the pitchers in the league have Tommy John.

 

PS I would trade Starlin for Stanton. Dude's a legit beast, on pace for a 40 HR season with a .970 OPS and he's only 22.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Strasburg is too risky, not sure on most of the others, but a definite no with him.

 

Why is Strasburg risky? Because he got Tommy John? Half the pitchers in the league have Tommy John.

 

PS I would trade Starlin for Stanton. Dude's a legit beast, on pace for a 40 HR season with a .970 OPS and he's only 22.

 

Because he's a pitcher.