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Banedon GOAT

Banedon

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Blanco just had a ball called on him a little outside. [expletive] Giants dbag announcer says "that's a strike in Chicago"

 

http://i.imgur.com/JWgwOb2.jpg

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George Hayduke

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Saw this and thought the question it raised was apropos to Cubs fans.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/pick-your-four-years/

 

Basically the question comes down to, would you be more satisfied with the equivalent of the 2008 Cubs four years in a row (four great teams with playoff births each year but little playoff success) or the garbagey 2011 - 2013-esque Cubs teams followed by a World Series Championship team the fourth year?

 

I think obviously people would like to see the WS trophy, but which of the two would you consider the more "successful" run?

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that's the first time that question's been framed in such a way that i even consider the one with the world series, since its' only 4 years of fun vs 3 years of suffering and 1 year of extra fun

 

if you asked me like 9 or 10 year run of regular season dominance with little postseason success (like braves-ish without the one WS) vs one WS and a bunch of crap, i'd take the former.

 

hrmmm.

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For the Cubs specifically, I would take the 3 crap years and the championship, because duh, it's the Cubs and would be one of the most meaningful and historic sporting events of all time. We're used to crummy seasons, it is what we live with, it would be a worthy trade in the Scenario That Cannot Happen.

 

And I'll be honest that for much of the other teams and sports I root for id probably take the 4 solid and playoff making seasons, because it just makes the whole sports season more enjoyable overall.

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10 seasons of high level winning with little postseason success is a no brainer for me vs 1 championship and, say, 9 years of suck.

 

the way it's being presented here is the only ratio at which I even think about it.

 

there's nothing worse than season long baseball irrelevance and terribleness and there's little more fun than watching the cubs play well for 6 months.

 

championships are a cool bonus and stuff but they're not why i watch sports. they're too rare and hard to come by for that.

 

that said, obviously it's going to be an amazing [expletive] party when it does happen.

 

EDIT - THAT said...it would definitely take something away if I KNEW they weren't going to do anything those good years soo...

Clem Fandango All-Star

Clem Fandango

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This blew my mind. Figured there'd be plenty more, but that's not the case. I'm having a hard time finding anyone in either league who has accomplished this. Nolan Ryan never did it. Johnson never did it. Pedro never did it. Clemens did it once (7 years). He's the only one I've found.

Andy GOAT

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Nothing we haven't already discussed at length in this article, but still good to see it.

 

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Banedon GOAT

Banedon

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Actually, there's a ton discussed in that article beyond ye olde "ONLY THE CARDINALS/LUCKLUCKLUCKPIXIEDUST" memes that dwell here.

 

Yeah, I can quickly glaze over when articles get too stats-y, but I thought they explored that in a well-explained way.

jersey cubs fan GOAT

jersey cubs fan

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http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/baseball-joe/blog/how-long-has-it-been-four-playoff-droughts-on-verge-of-ending-081215

 

It makes sense, but it still seems crazy to me. I would not have guessed it has been that long.

 

The Toronto Blue Jays lead their division, this late in the season, for the first time since 1993. That happens to be the last time they reached the playoffs.

 

 

So here we have another occasion to credit baseball for its competitive balance. In fact, if the postseason began today, four of the eight longest postseason droughts would zero out.

 

The full list, with current holders of postseason spots in bold:

 

Blue Jays — 1993

Mariners — 2001

Marlins — 2003

Astros — 2005

Mets — 2006

Padres — 2006

White Sox — 2008

Cubs — 2008

TruffleShuffle Cooperstown

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cardinals' pitchers have by far the highest LOB% in baseball (81%; next best is 75.6%). they also have the lowest HR/FB rate of any team in baseball, and the 8th lowest babip. their team ERA is more than half a run better than the next-best team, and is nearly a run better than their xFIP.

 

[expletive] the cardinals.

Andy GOAT

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It's not just the best LOB% in baseball, if it continues it will be the best in history. Pretty easily, actually.

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