Dempster Traded to Texas for 3B Villanueva & RHP Hendricks

[Clem Fandango]

From Morosi... nothing we don't already know

 

The Dodgers and Tigers are among the most serious suitors for Cubs right-hander Ryan Dempster, Morosi reports. Ten teams have reportedly shown interest in Dempster.

[Clem Fandango]

Bit of an update from Rosenthal, not much that hasn't really been talked about already...

 

The Cubs want to assume the majority of the nearly $7 million remaining on Dempster’s contract to secure better prospects.

 

I didn't even think of this possibility for some reason, mostly because he's good and his performance doesn't make the salary a burden. If we pick up most of the tab, if not all of the tab, that should definitely get a nice return. I hadn't even thought of that. Now I'm more eager to see what we can get.

[davell]

To me, it's probably what's kept him from already being traded to the Dodgers. They've came out and let it be known they'd rather take money on, than give up premium prospects. That said, they were letting the Astros pay Lee's contract.

[davell]

I read an article this morning that made quite a bit of sense, talking about the ramifications of the new CBA. No teams want to be the guinea pigs and overpay, or receive too little. Everyone wants someone else to set the market and go from there. Certainly makes sense, I feel confident that if we make an early deal, we're not going to be accused of receiving too little.

[treebird]

Off day today. Hopefully this thing gets done.

 

"listen, theo, we're ready to do what it takes to get this thing done today, we'll offer what it takes, just hear us out"

 

"w/e bro, i have to go throw batting practice, try and catch me on an off day"

[Sammy Sofa]

BOY GENIUS STRIKES AGAIN.

[ctcf]

Strap in kids...

 

Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN

Source: The Red Sox are aggressive in the pursuit of Ryan Dempster. Cubs going through their process on the right-hander.

[Guest]

I'm having trouble parsing that second sentence.

[craig]

Olt over Castellanos every time for me. Even if they both might be pipe dreams.

 

Olt has a K-rate of over 29%, and is only in AA. So he's worse than what Brett Jackson was prior to the more challenging breaking stuff of AAA. So he's basically a good-fielding 3B version of Jackson?

 

Are you intentionally leaving out the part where Mike Olt has a slash line of .292/.403/.574/.977 with 22 homers, 63RBI, and 51BB in 76 games? And a 14.7% walk rate vs. Jackson's 10.1%? Or an ISO of .282 vs. Jackson .226? Or a wOBA of .428 vs. Jackson's .366?

 

Yes. :Dposting.php?mode=quote&f=6&p=2830374# posting.php?mode=quote&f=6&p=2830374#

 

K rates are sometimes listed per PA, others per AB. 29.2% relative to AB's is really high. 24% per PA is also really high. And as was mentioned, it's not a fluke. He's been consistently a massive K-guy. I was thinking that Olt's rates seemed pretty similar to Jackson as an AA player. Per AB, Olt is 29.2% this year, Jackson was 30.1 Per PA, Jackson was 24.9%, Old is 24.4%.

 

So the K-rates seem pretty similar as AA players in their 20's. Obviously no two players develop the same. So while Jackson's K-rate has gotten much worse in AAA, perhaps Olt's will hold fairly steady. I'm just suggesting that K-wise he's pretty much what Jackson was a year ago in AA. So while there may be good scouting reason to think that he'll handle the promotion to AAA better than did Jackson, we probably shouldn't be shocked if we get Olt and he K's almost like a Jackson.

 

which may be fine, many posters like Jackson's future a lot. So whiffing like a Jackson may be no reason to temper enthusiasm.

 

Or the superior power numbers for Olt, while playing a good 3b defensively, might also more than negate any concerns with K's. But just kind of interesting that thus far he's been very much in the Jackson-track in terms of a K-guy.

[Tryptamine]

I'd love to land Owens or Lavarnway. I can't imagine that Bogaerts/Barnes/JBJ are on the table.

[El Duderino]

lavarnway is pretty useless unless he can stick at catcher

[davell]

Cecchini could easily be the 3B we're after.

[iowahawkeyes89]

Cubs want pitching so my guess is Owens is near the top of the list in a Dempster trade.

 

Barnes would be a dream, but there's no way they deal Barnes in a Dempster trade, maybe Garza though.

[Guest]

Cecchini could easily be the 3B we're after.

 

I like that.

[El Duderino]

I saw you delete that post, David.

[Guest]

Hard to trust a rumor that can't spell Ravech's name right, and backtracks almost immediately.

 

What the hell are you talking about, you crazy bastard?

[El Duderino]

maybe it was ravech's hair piece

[Guest]

I won't have you slandering my good name with your fabricated quotes, sir.

[Guest]

No idea what you speak of.

[Brian]

I was just thinking have we had a good deadline since '04? It didn't really work out, but August 1st was freaking awesome.

 

'05 was Matt Lawton, right? That was fun.

 

'06 was Maddux for Izturis (ugh)

 

'07 and '08 we stood pat

 

'09 we got Gorzo and Grabow, really a nothing trade, that brought the ridiculous Grabow extension.

 

'10 Lilly and Theriot for pretty much nothing, I think

 

'11 we had no GM

[ConstableRabbit]

I was just thinking have we had a good deadline since '04? It didn't really work out, but August 1st was freaking awesome.

 

'05 was Matt Lawton, right? That was fun.

 

'06 was Maddux for Izturis (ugh)

 

'07 and '08 we stood pat

 

'09 we got Gorzo and Grabow, really a nothing trade, that brought the ridiculous Grabow extension.

 

'10 Lilly and Theriot for pretty much nothing, I think

 

'11 we had no GM

I don't know how you're defining "deadline" but Rich Harden was pretty sweet in early July '08.

[Brian]

I was just thinking have we had a good deadline since '04? It didn't really work out, but August 1st was freaking awesome.

 

'05 was Matt Lawton, right? That was fun.

 

'06 was Maddux for Izturis (ugh)

 

'07 and '08 we stood pat

 

'09 we got Gorzo and Grabow, really a nothing trade, that brought the ridiculous Grabow extension.

 

'10 Lilly and Theriot for pretty much nothing, I think

 

'11 we had no GM

I don't know how you're defining "deadline" but Rich Harden was pretty sweet in early July '08.

 

Oh yeah, that completely slipped my mind. That was also awesome, but also very Nomar. More excitement than actual baseball results.

[Guest]

I was just thinking have we had a good deadline since '04? It didn't really work out, but August 1st was freaking awesome.

 

'05 was Matt Lawton, right? That was fun.

 

'06 was Maddux for Izturis (ugh)

 

'07 and '08 we stood pat

 

'09 we got Gorzo and Grabow, really a nothing trade, that brought the ridiculous Grabow extension.

 

'10 Lilly and Theriot for pretty much nothing, I think

 

'11 we had no GM

I don't know how you're defining "deadline" but Rich Harden was pretty sweet in early July '08.

 

Oh yeah, that completely slipped my mind. That was also awesome, but also very Nomar. More excitement than actual baseball results.

 

Harden was absolutely awesome for us in 08.

[ConstableRabbit]

I was just thinking have we had a good deadline since '04? It didn't really work out, but August 1st was freaking awesome.

 

'05 was Matt Lawton, right? That was fun.

 

'06 was Maddux for Izturis (ugh)

 

'07 and '08 we stood pat

 

'09 we got Gorzo and Grabow, really a nothing trade, that brought the ridiculous Grabow extension.

 

'10 Lilly and Theriot for pretty much nothing, I think

 

'11 we had no GM

I don't know how you're defining "deadline" but Rich Harden was pretty sweet in early July '08.

 

Oh yeah, that completely slipped my mind. That was also awesome, but also very Nomar. More excitement than actual baseball results.

 

Harden was absolutely awesome for us in 08.

Yeah, I remember CC getting all of the attention, but Harden was also very good (albeit not as good :))

 

In 71 IP Harden threw 89Ks vs. 30 BBs and posted a WHIP under 1, not to mention a 3.3 bWAR.

[El Duderino]

harden beat cc in era+ 258 to 255. owned