Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[illiniguy]

Did anyone see the end of the UCLA Washngton game? Muhammad screamed for the ball, didn't get it, drew nails a game winner. The whole team is going nuts, ESPN highlights Shabazz walking back to the bench not celebrating with his team. Made it out to make him look pretty selfish.

Yeah, he and Tony Parker weren't too happy.

 

Whatever, I'm burned out by UCLA basketball. Glad Howland is done after this season.

Who are you guys going to target?

Stevens

 

Here's a fun new(ish) name: Jim Larranaga.

I'm not saying he can't coach, but why would UCLA want him at this point? He can't have a lot left.

[Cubswin11]

Did anyone see the end of the UCLA Washngton game? Muhammad screamed for the ball, didn't get it, drew nails a game winner. The whole team is going nuts, ESPN highlights Shabazz walking back to the bench not celebrating with his team. Made it out to make him look pretty selfish.

Yeah, he wasn't too happy. Pretty ridiculous. (Also a really dumb shot for Drew to settle on.)

 

Whatever, I'm burned out by UCLA basketball. Glad Howland is done after this season.

Who are you guys going to target?

 

I'm guessing the usual suspects - Shaka, Stevens, etc. The Pac-12 network contract means UCLA will actually have lots more money to spend than normal.

Yeah they should be able to get someone good and should be the usual names. Shaka, Stevens, Dixon?, Buzz Williams?, Chris Mack?, Jay Wright?

[Guest]

It also sounds like Billy Donovan will use UCLA to get a raise from Florida.

[Guest]

Did anyone see the end of the UCLA Washngton game? Muhammad screamed for the ball, didn't get it, drew nails a game winner. The whole team is going nuts, ESPN highlights Shabazz walking back to the bench not celebrating with his team. Made it out to make him look pretty selfish.

Yeah, he wasn't too happy. Pretty ridiculous. (Also a really dumb shot for Drew to settle on.)

 

Whatever, I'm burned out by UCLA basketball. Glad Howland is done after this season.

Who are you guys going to target?

 

I'm guessing the usual suspects - Shaka, Stevens, etc. The Pac-12 network contract means UCLA will actually have lots more money to spend than normal.

Yeah they should be able to get someone good and should be the usual names. Shaka, Stevens, Dixon?, Buzz Williams?, Chris Mack?, Jay Wright?

 

Dixon won't be an option with his ties to Howland.

 

I still think Dixon will coach at USC next year.

[Exile on Waveland]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

[Exile on Waveland]

Also, reading back through, laughing at the Illinois fans complaining about Griffey playing. Using him at the five is pretty much the exact perfect way to attack IU--a big that can either pull Zeller away from the basket or hit 3's as Zeller stands in the paint and looks at him.

[illiniguy]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

Again, we've won at gonzaga. Beat butler like a red headed step kid, and throttled OSU. We aren't great, but we are capable of beating anyone if we are making shots. It wasn't all just IU shooting themselves in the foot.

[illiniguy]

Also, reading back through, laughing at the Illinois fans complaining about Griffey playing. Using him at the five is pretty much the exact perfect way to attack IU--a big that can either pull Zeller away from the basket or hit 3's as Zeller stands in the paint and looks at him.

That was his first made threes since 2012. He has been playing awful. That's why we have ripped on him.

[Exile on Waveland]

 

 

(IU fans, forgive the knock on Oladipo - he's a really good player, I've just been tiring of the hype on him lately. The "mini-Jordan" stuff was particularly appalling)

 

I love Oladipo, but they recent hype has been over the top. Not sure where Vitale came up with the mini-Jordan stuff. I think he's great, but that is just absurd.

 

Vitale is an idiot and that comparison is idiotic. But Oladipo is a good player and a really good kid; he's not an expletive like Sheehey that deserves the mocking.

[Exile on Waveland]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

Again, we've won at gonzaga. Beat butler like a red headed step kid, and throttled OSU. We aren't great, but we are capable of beating anyone if we are making shots. It wasn't all just IU shooting themselves in the foot.

 

Sure, Illinois has good players and is capable of beating IU (obviously). They also made the plays they had to down the stretch, no doubt (however: a banked-in free throw, really?). But losing a 10-point lead with less than four minutes left is blowing the game. At that point, IU wins as long as they don't shoot themselves in the foot. But they did, as is their wont.

[mul21]

Also, reading back through, laughing at the Illinois fans complaining about Griffey playing. Using him at the five is pretty much the exact perfect way to attack IU--a big that can either pull Zeller away from the basket or hit 3's as Zeller stands in the paint and looks at him.

That was his first made threes since 2012. He has been playing awful. That's why we have ripped on him.

 

Exactly. That was by far the most complete game he's ever played at Illinois. Typically, if he's not hitting shots (which, as noted, he hasn't been. 0 for 21 slump to be exact) he's completely useless. He actually got in there and mixed it up last night. His defense was still not good and he very rarely got a body on somebody trying to defensive rebound, but he was way more physical than usual and made a very good read on the game winning play.

[rawaction]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

Its college basketball. A game of runs. Im looking at it as IU has shown the ability to beat everyone theyve played so far. They are 2 last second layups by players who were 4th options on the other team and a well defended jumper by Evans away from being undefeated. In a season where top 5 teams are losing to TCU and Arkansas and blown out by Miami.... that's quite a feat.

 

The Butler game was the opposite situation where IU made the comeback. And I think the fact that it has happened twice and come close to happening a few times that it won't happen again. Last second shots and 10 point comebacks in 2-3 minutes are not common occurences. I'd hope they can better prevent them at this point.

[Magnetic Curses]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

 

i'm glad the illini get some credit from you.

[Exile on Waveland]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

Its college basketball. A game of runs. Im looking at it as IU has shown the ability to beat everyone theyve played so far. They are 2 last second layups by players who were 4th options on the other team and a well defended jumper by Evans away from being undefeated. In a season where top 5 teams are losing to TCU and Arkansas and blown out by Miami.... that's quite a feat.

 

The Butler game was the opposite situation where IU made the comeback. And I think the fact that it has happened twice and come close to happening a few times that it won't happen again. Last second shots and 10 point comebacks in 2-3 minutes are not common occurences. I'd hope they can better prevent them at this point.

 

Butler was similar not exact; agreed. IU collapsed earlier than normal, then made the comeback at the end. However, the overtime was exceedingly similar--IU ahead, all the advantages with players being fouled out, but gagged.

 

And as much as you want to believe that comebacks in the last 2-3 minutes are not common occurences, it seems to me they are against this IU team/teams coached by Crean/however you want to put it. It's happened more than once already this season and it happened last year too. Edit: you had previously asked why I thought the Minnesota game "felt like a loss." This is why. Because that game foreboded this game and this game forebodes the next blown game. I had hoped the Georgetown game was an anomaly. It's not.

 

I agree that IU can beat any team in the nation. They can beat the best teams . . . it just won't matter when they lose in the (what used to be) second or third round to Creighton.

[Derwood]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

 

i'm glad the illini get some credit from you.

 

It's about time, what with all the credit and praise you've been lavishing on IU all season

[Old Style]

Your team upset the #1 team in the country and you're more concerned about making unfunny SSR-type jokes about my team? Pathetic.

Stop losing to bad SEC teams so that OU's win over ATM can look good again. We need all the help we can get.

Seems like an odd comment after a win over a top 25 SEC team. That should have been said a week or so ago and I would have wholeheartedly agreed. I'm hoping last night was a turning point for this team and not just a one game anamoly. The tournament isn't going to happen but we should be able to win another 4-5 games if we play like last night, I would think.

[illiniguy]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

 

i'm glad the illini get some credit from you.

 

It's about time, what with all the credit and praise you've been lavishing on IU all season

Just a page or two ago he said oladipo is better then Jordan, what more do you want?

[CubInOK]

Your team upset the #1 team in the country and you're more concerned about making unfunny SSR-type jokes about my team? Pathetic.

Stop losing to bad SEC teams so that OU's win over ATM can look good again. We need all the help we can get.

Seems like an odd comment after a win over a top 25 SEC team. That should have been said a week or so ago and I would have wholeheartedly agreed. I'm hoping last night was a turning point for this team and not just a one game anamoly. The tournament isn't going to happen but we should be able to win another 4-5 games if we play like last night, I would think.

So don't lose to Georgia again plz. kthxbai.

[illiniguy]

Jay Bilas is preaching about how horrible defense is now and how the referees need to change how they call games on PTI. =D>

[SouthSideRyan]

It also sounds like Billy Donovan will use UCLA to get a raise from Florida.

 

I hear Mike Anderson is being strongly considered.

[SouthSideRyan]

Jesus, I know I should've expected this because they're Indiana fans, but lol at this thread.

 

The only reason you guys beat us is because we only shot 50-53-93 on the day. It was probably the worst game Indiana has played in its smelly history.

[rawaction]

Sigh.

 

I feel like Illinois was the proverbial NASCAR driver just cruising along middle of the pack -- I don't watch NASCAR, so I'm just guessing -- then all of a sudden there's a 15-car pile-up and he cruises past the dumpster fire for the win. Illinois made the plays they had to but, wow, collapse . . .

 

And that's becoming pretty par for the course. This was a mirror image of the Georgetown game (IU managed to win in overtime though). There's the epic collapse against Minnesota (IU manages to win). A lot of similarities to the Butler game. Meaning, of the twenty-three games IU has played (and eight of those were against sacrificial lambs) three or four games include pretty huge collapses. Then you throw in last year's Nebraska game (exact same thing) and even the Kentucky game (thank Watford for the bail-out) and this doesn't look like much of anomaly. It's going to happen again, and it's probably going to happen in the Sweet 16 to end IU's season.

Its college basketball. A game of runs. Im looking at it as IU has shown the ability to beat everyone theyve played so far. They are 2 last second layups by players who were 4th options on the other team and a well defended jumper by Evans away from being undefeated. In a season where top 5 teams are losing to TCU and Arkansas and blown out by Miami.... that's quite a feat.

 

The Butler game was the opposite situation where IU made the comeback. And I think the fact that it has happened twice and come close to happening a few times that it won't happen again. Last second shots and 10 point comebacks in 2-3 minutes are not common occurences. I'd hope they can better prevent them at this point.

 

Butler was similar not exact; agreed. IU collapsed earlier than normal, then made the comeback at the end. However, the overtime was exceedingly similar--IU ahead, all the advantages with players being fouled out, but gagged.

 

And as much as you want to believe that comebacks in the last 2-3 minutes are not common occurences, it seems to me they are against this IU team/teams coached by Crean/however you want to put it. It's happened more than once already this season and it happened last year too. Edit: you had previously asked why I thought the Minnesota game "felt like a loss." This is why. Because that game foreboded this game and this game forebodes the next blown game. I had hoped the Georgetown game was an anomaly. It's not.

 

I agree that IU can beat any team in the nation. They can beat the best teams . . . it just won't matter when they lose in the (what used to be) second or third round to Creighton.

 

Maybe it's fear of the Illinois fans, but it seems like all year you've been looking for reasons not to get excited about this team. This is a damn good team. They brought everyone back from a 27-win team last year and added a potential star at PG, while Olapido, Zeller, and Sheehey all predictably improved (though some much more than could've been expected). Just chill out and stay along for the ride. If they lose in the 2nd or 3rd round, you'll be right. But this team has shown nothing this year to suggest that they will lose that early. They are clearly one of the top 5 teams in the nation.

 

The Georgetown game was sent to OT because of missed FTs....yet they lead the B1G in FT% as a team. The Minnesota game was a win and was only remotely in doubt for 1 or 2 possessions of the last 30 minutes. Felt like a loss or not, it wasn't. The Illinois game wasn't lost on the FT line. It wasn't a bunch of late 3s. The offense had a couple solid possessions in the final 3 minutes. Watford had a wide open shot. Hulls should have taken the 3, but Zeller got the rebound, they got another good shot and missed. Oladipo broke down the D and got it to Watford who was stripped under the basket (he really needs to get stronger with the ball). So, it's not like they completely fell off on the offensive side. Defensively was another story, but they weren't that good defensively all night.

[Magnetic Curses]

Jesus, I know I should've expected this because they're Indiana fans, but lol at this thread.

 

The only reason you guys beat us is because we only shot 50-53-93 on the day. It was probably the worst game Indiana has played in its smelly history.

 

it's obvious that indiana wanted to lose.

[Formerly Snayke]

this is the most unlikeable mizzou basketball team since quin was here.

 

Nah, the most unlikeable team was the one from Anderson's last year.

 

TT already said it, but Dixon fucked this team over. It didn't help that Tony Mitchell fell through, then Kreklow and Green flopped.

 

Anderson's last two recruiting years yielded the two Presseys and Mike Dixon. Everyone else fell through. He's still [expletive] this program over two years later.

[Magnetic Curses]

mitchell would have fit right in with the escaped mental patients and repeat violent criminals on that team. didn't he rob a hamburger stand in jr high or something?