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this headline just reads like Sveum is telling dusty to go to hell:

 

 

Baker tells Sveum: Expect impatience

Sveum says he knows what to expect this season.

 

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/

 

and the actual article

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0313-cubs-chicago--20120313,0,5600352.story

 

I wonder what the word patience means to dusty? Letting a rookie bat 3 times in the same game? Trusting a veteran to throw 150 pitches even though he's already given up 6 runs?

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Dusty got four years in Chicago, each of which was ultimately worse than the last. He was paid as one of the top managers in the game during that time.

 

We were plenty patient, and I don't have a whole lot of sympathy.

Posted
Dusty got four years in Chicago, each of which was ultimately worse than the last. He was paid as one of the top managers in the game during that time.

 

We were plenty patient, and I don't have a whole lot of sympathy.

 

I was done with Dusty before he signed the contract, so you can say I was as patient as his hitters. But Dusty didn't deserve patience.

Posted

Love how dusty regrets that the club did not reload in 2004.

 

That was a stacked team.....he just sucked at managing.

Posted
did he tell swaim to be ready for the hot summer heat?

 

I'd really like to see dusty baker and joe morgan go head to head in a spouting nonsense contest.

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Posted

You blew up the two greatest arms to come through our system in generations.

 

We didn't have PATIENCE?

 

LOL.

Posted
Kerry Wood was doomed regardless of Dusty's presence (and it started before he even showed up).

 

Yep. Dusty certainly didn't help, but didn't Wood already have one elbow surgery under his belt by the time DB showed up?

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Kerry Wood was doomed regardless of Dusty's presence (and it started before he even showed up).

 

Yep. Dusty certainly didn't help, but didn't Wood already have one elbow surgery under his belt by the time DB showed up?

 

Lots of people have surgeries under their belt and go on to have long careers. What doesn't typically happen is that a new manager comes in and rides that surgically repaired arm into the ground with 120 pitch count game after 120 pitch count game, staying in after long rain delays. I mean, Wood threw 140+ pitches early in the season that year. He threw 130 in terribly uncomfortable conditions in Miami. He didn't do anything like that the year before. Wood never would have been the picture of durability or have a sustained career of 200 IP seasons. But there's no way you can pretend he was doomed to have his career wind down as quickly as it did if he didn't have Dusty Freaking Baker stearing the ship.

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Love how dusty regrets that the club did not reload in 2004.

 

wait, where did he say this? if he was talking about the offseason between 2003 and 2004, that's amazing. that was like the best cubs offseason of my lifetime (until this one). greg maddux, derrek lee, todd walker, michael barrett, latroy hawkins, and then nomar at the deadline. that was probably hendry's best stretch as the gm.

Posted
Kerry Wood was doomed regardless of Dusty's presence (and it started before he even showed up).

 

Yep. Dusty certainly didn't help, but didn't Wood already have one elbow surgery under his belt by the time DB showed up?

 

Lots of people have surgeries under their belt and go on to have long careers. What doesn't typically happen is that a new manager comes in and rides that surgically repaired arm into the ground with 120 pitch count game after 120 pitch count game, staying in after long rain delays. I mean, Wood threw 140+ pitches early in the season that year. He threw 130 in terribly uncomfortable conditions in Miami. He didn't do anything like that the year before. Wood never would have been the picture of durability or have a sustained career of 200 IP seasons. But there's no way you can pretend he was doomed to have his career wind down as quickly as it did if he didn't have Dusty Freaking Baker stearing the ship.

 

I wasn't trying to suggest that Baker was good for Wood or had no effect. Just that Wood was already started down that path. A big arm and bad mechanics are a bad combination, especially when that big arm has already been surgically repaired. Dusty most definitely sped things up by his use of Wood, however.

Posted
Kerry Wood was doomed regardless of Dusty's presence (and it started before he even showed up).

 

Yep. Dusty certainly didn't help, but didn't Wood already have one elbow surgery under his belt by the time DB showed up?

 

Lots of people have surgeries under their belt and go on to have long careers. What doesn't typically happen is that a new manager comes in and rides that surgically repaired arm into the ground with 120 pitch count game after 120 pitch count game, staying in after long rain delays. I mean, Wood threw 140+ pitches early in the season that year. He threw 130 in terribly uncomfortable conditions in Miami. He didn't do anything like that the year before. Wood never would have been the picture of durability or have a sustained career of 200 IP seasons. But there's no way you can pretend he was doomed to have his career wind down as quickly as it did if he didn't have Dusty Freaking Baker stearing the ship.

 

Of course I can. Wood had ridiculously destructive mechanics. People were predicting an abbreviated career for him even before he was drafted. Dusty was an idiot in how he managed him, but for me Prior is the obvious wouldacouldashoulda. Wood I was just waiting for to fall apart all throughout the aughts.

Posted
Kerry Wood was doomed regardless of Dusty's presence (and it started before he even showed up).

 

Yep. Dusty certainly didn't help, but didn't Wood already have one elbow surgery under his belt by the time DB showed up?

 

Lots of people have surgeries under their belt and go on to have long careers. What doesn't typically happen is that a new manager comes in and rides that surgically repaired arm into the ground with 120 pitch count game after 120 pitch count game, staying in after long rain delays. I mean, Wood threw 140+ pitches early in the season that year. He threw 130 in terribly uncomfortable conditions in Miami. He didn't do anything like that the year before. Wood never would have been the picture of durability or have a sustained career of 200 IP seasons. But there's no way you can pretend he was doomed to have his career wind down as quickly as it did if he didn't have Dusty Freaking Baker stearing the ship.

 

Of course I can. Wood had ridiculously destructive mechanics. People were predicting an abbreviated career for him even before he was drafted. Dusty was an idiot in how he managed him, but for me Prior is the obvious wouldacouldashoulda. Wood I was just waiting for to fall apart all throughout the aughts.

 

And Dusty made it happen sooner than it had to.

Old-Timey Member
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We didn't need Wood's career to be super long. We just needed a little gas left in the tank for '04 (and Prior too of course).

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