Wrigley Renovation Thread

[KingCubsFan]

A plan to alter a Chicago ordinance would give the Cubs more night games starting in 2014, and the city wants to be able to decide which days the Cubs can reschedule rained out games.

 

Cubs executive Mike Lufrano said giving the city that kind of power is "unprecedented" in baseball.

 

One Cubs official said Tuesday night that such a decision would be logistically impossible, and shows the city's complete lack of understanding of how the baseball schedule works.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0605-bits-cubs-angels-chicago-20130605,0,3588149.story

 

 

Well that has to be one of the stupidest things I have read about this renovation plan. What business does the city of Chicago have trying to insert themselves into the MLB scheduling process? These nonsensical and overreaching power plays are exhausting.

That's easily the dumbest request any side has made throughout the entire process.

[jersey cubs fan]

A plan to alter a Chicago ordinance would give the Cubs more night games starting in 2014, and the city wants to be able to decide which days the Cubs can reschedule rained out games.

 

Cubs executive Mike Lufrano said giving the city that kind of power is "unprecedented" in baseball.

 

One Cubs official said Tuesday night that such a decision would be logistically impossible, and shows the city's complete lack of understanding of how the baseball schedule works.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0605-bits-cubs-angels-chicago-20130605,0,3588149.story

 

 

Well that has to be one of the stupidest things I have read about this renovation plan. What business does the city of Chicago have trying to insert themselves into the MLB scheduling process? These nonsensical and overreaching power plays are exhausting.

That's easily the dumbest request any side has made throughout the entire process.

 

Maybe the dumbest that has been displayed for the public to see, but I'm sure there's been even dumber ones behind the scenes.

[Sammy Sofa]

I really, really, REALLY hate the "only the Cobs"-style of thinking, but this season, both on and off the field, has been insanely taxing along those lines.

[GammonsPocketTweets]

Chicago government employees really all need to be thrown into an abyss.

[Smack]

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[Clem Fandango]

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Well played

[jersey cubs fan]

Cubs just sent out emails stating four previously TBD Friday gametimes have now been listed as 3:05, starting with the July 5th game vs Pit.

[UMFan83]

“We have learned that the Cubs have become particularly disappointed, disenchanted, unhappy with the progress of their negotiations with the city,” Cronin said. “About 10 days ago I learned from people with the Cubs organization and the family that owns the Cubs that they would like us to consider putting a proposal together, that the game has changed in some respects, that this is not a long shot that they would leave Chicago.”

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-dupage-county-chairman-wants-to-pitch-cubs-on-moving-west-20130612,0,5592130.story

[jersey cubs fan]

have become particularly disappointed, disenchanted, unhappy with the progress of ... the organization

 

my sentiments exactly

Edited June 13, 2013 by jersey cubs fan

[Guest]

have become particularly disappointed, disenchanted, unhappy with the progress ... of the organization

 

my sentiments exactly

 

of should've been before the ellipsis

Edited June 13, 2013 by David

[jersey cubs fan]

have become particularly disappointed, disenchanted, unhappy with the progress ... of the organization

 

my sentiments exactly

 

of should've been before the ellipses

 

that's what I get for changing it up on the fly.

[Guest]

They've progressed very well in terms of getting higher draft picks, but they still have a long way to go to be number 1.

[Guest]

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130613/BLOGS02/130619868/

 

But I'm told that Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Cubs owner Tom Ricketts had a rather cordial sit-down yesterday about finishing the process of approving plans to rebuild Wrigley Field and keep the team right where it is now.

 

According to sources who would know, the pair got together in Mr. Emanuel's office at City Hall. There were no histrionics, threats to split for the burbs, etc.

 

But there was general agreement that the “framework” the two agreed on a while ago for $500 million in work around and inside Wrigley will be on a fast track, with final approval of at least the Wrigley-proper portion of the deal — signage, Jumbotron, et al. — before the City Council breaks for the summer. In other words, well before Labor Day.

 

We'll see how well that works out. I continue to hear different things about what Wrigley-area Ald. Tom Tunney, 44th, is up to, and the Cubs surely were taken aback a few days ago by changes Mr. Tunney made to their plan to add more night and late-start games.

[Banedon]

Wrigleyville’s alderman sent a letter to the Cubs on Wednesday saying that if the organization wants his support for the plan, it will need to cut by one-third the size of a left field video scoreboard and greatly reduce the size of a requested right field advertising sign.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-tunney-issues-wrigley-demands-20130626,0,994565.story

[Irrelevant Dude]

Wrigleyville’s alderman sent a letter to the Cubs on Wednesday saying that if the organization wants his support for the plan, it will need to cut by one-third the size of a left field video scoreboard and greatly reduce the size of a requested right field advertising sign.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-tunney-issues-wrigley-demands-20130626,0,994565.story

There were some hotel-related demands in the article that didn't sound too outrageous, but I don't think there should be any room for negotiation with regard to the scoreboard and advertising. The Cubs should get what they want regardless of what Tunney says. Appease him with some minor tweaks to the hotel and don't budge on the important parts of the plan.

[Guest]

Wrigleyville’s alderman sent a letter to the Cubs on Wednesday saying that if the organization wants his support for the plan, it will need to cut by one-third the size of a left field video scoreboard and greatly reduce the size of a requested right field advertising sign.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-tunney-issues-wrigley-demands-20130626,0,994565.story

 

LOL GFY Tunney

 

 

That is, unless this is all an act and they built that extra 1/3 into the original design so they could cut it back later.

[crazycooter]

Wrigleyville’s alderman sent a letter to the Cubs on Wednesday saying that if the organization wants his support for the plan, it will need to cut by one-third the size of a left field video scoreboard and greatly reduce the size of a requested right field advertising sign.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-tunney-issues-wrigley-demands-20130626,0,994565.story

 

LOL GFY Tunney

 

 

That is, unless this is all an act and they built that extra 1/3 into the original design so they could cut it back later.

 

I'm going with GFY Tunney either way. What a piece of [expletive].

[Banedon]

I don't know if they updated that article, or if I just missed some of this yesterday...

 

In addition to reducing the left field Jumbotron from 6,000 square feet to 4,000 square feet and the right field ad board from 1,000 square feet to 650 square feet, Tunney told the Cubs they will need to get rid of a request for a pedestrian bridge over Clark Street that team CEO Tom Ricketts want to connect the ballpark to the hotel.

 

“I don’t think there’s a functional reason to put a bridge over Clark Street,” Tunney said. “To transport 175 hotel guests?”

 

In addition, Tunney said he wants the entrance to the hotel moved from Patterson Avenue, a residential street west of Wrigley Field, to either Clark Street or Addison Street. And the alderman said he can’t support a plan for an outdoor patio in the hotel above Patterson where hotel guests could hang out. “Come on, people live 50 feet away from there,” he said.

 

Tunney said his voice has been heard in the negotiations, but his letter expresses frustration with the amount of communication he has been getting from the team as he tries to assuage the concerns of residents in the already congested neighborhood full of bars and restaurants.

 

“I will expect a greater level of responsiveness and consideration from you and the Cubs organization as we finalize the Planned Development documents,” Tunney’s letter reads. “By your own admission, the proposed plans pose serious disruptions to my residents and will dramatically affect their quality of life. We must work together to minimize those disruptions and compose operations plans to manage the additional activity and proposed new uses.”

 

GFY indeed.

[Banedon]

Brett's thoughts:

 

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/06/26/obsessive-wrigley-renovation-watch-tunney-does-not-plan-to-support-the-cubs-at-tomorrows-meeting/

[UMFan83]

I don't know. I want to understand Tunneys POV but I just can't. Complaining about most of this stuff is silly. Fine, no pedestrian bridge, I understand the gripe there. Moving the hotel entrance to Clark or Addison is going to make an already cramped intersection worse. If you survey every resident that lives on that little stretch of Patterson and you can find 5 that have lived there since 1984, then fine move the entrance somewhere else. If not, you are talking about a street full of residents who consciously chose to pay more to live in a neighborhood full of bars and a professional sports team that plays 81 teams a year roughly 1000 feet from their homes.

 

Pretending like he's protecting the residents from the big bad Cub imperialists is getting tiresome.

[Guest]

What I would give for an actual good relocation site to pop-up. What about that huge plot of land south of Roosevelt over by the rail yard? I know that was a potential stadium location for the Fire. Where's the ward from that area to roll out the red carpet and at the very least put the screws to Tunney if not make the whole thing work?

[jersey cubs fan]

What I would give for an actual good relocation site to pop-up. What about that huge plot of land south of Roosevelt over by the rail yard? I know that was a potential stadium for the Fire. Where's the ward from that area to roll out the red carpet and at the very least put the screws to Tunney if not make the whole thing work?

 

I think it would be more impossible to find a new site within the city limits than it would be in the suburbs, and the suburbs aren't happening.

[Guest]

What I would give for an actual good relocation site to pop-up. What about that huge plot of land south of Roosevelt over by the rail yard? I know that was a potential stadium location for the Fire. Where's the ward from that area to roll out the red carpet and at the very least put the screws to Tunney if not make the whole thing work?

 

I don't see why Tunney should/would even be an obstacle if the mayor if supportive.

[Guest]

What I would give for an actual good relocation site to pop-up. What about that huge plot of land south of Roosevelt over by the rail yard? I know that was a potential stadium location for the Fire. Where's the ward from that area to roll out the red carpet and at the very least put the screws to Tunney if not make the whole thing work?

 

I don't see why Tunney should/would even be an obstacle if the mayor if supportive.

 

Maybe, and maybe this is all just a tantrum Tunney's trying to throw to save face before the Cubs get their way. On the other hand though, the process has already missed multiple deadlines by months that are now pushing the project and its revenues full seasons further out than originally thought. At a certain point I'd have to think they'd be justified in going to Rahm and pointing out what a lunatic Tunney is being, and trying to work with him on an alternate city location, lest they take the Wrigley experience to one of the willing suburbs. Maybe Rahm tells them it's Wrigleyville or bust, but it'd be nice if even a fake rumor floated that possibility, if only for my own sanity.

[jersey cubs fan]

What I would give for an actual good relocation site to pop-up. What about that huge plot of land south of Roosevelt over by the rail yard? I know that was a potential stadium location for the Fire. Where's the ward from that area to roll out the red carpet and at the very least put the screws to Tunney if not make the whole thing work?

 

I don't see why Tunney should/would even be an obstacle if the mayor if supportive.

 

Maybe, and maybe this is all just a tantrum Tunney's trying to throw to save face before the Cubs get their way. On the other hand though, the process has already missed multiple deadlines by months that are now pushing the project and its revenues full seasons further out than originally thought. At a certain point I'd have to think they'd be justified in going to Rahm and pointing out what a lunatic Tunney is being, and trying to work with him on an alternate city location, lest they take the Wrigley experience to one of the willing suburbs. Maybe Rahm tells them it's Wrigleyville or bust, but it'd be nice if even a fake rumor floated that possibility, if only for my own sanity.

 

Well, there was the Tinley Park story, if that helps you.