Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[Theo]

I'm not familiar with all the O-lineman in the league, but I see that Deuce Lutui got released in Seattle. Would he be an upgrade over Spencer/Raschal?

 

lol, they dropped a Deuce.

[cubbyvirus00]

How is what I said overreacting?

 

 

New GM and longtime head coach. The GM has a 1 year mandate to keep Lovie. If Lovies team underwhelms at all during this season, Emery will make a move. He needs a reason to get his own hire in there.

[Banedon]

How is what I said overreacting?

 

 

New GM and longtime head coach. The GM has a 1 year mandate to keep Lovie. If Lovies team underwhelms at all during this season, Emery will make a move. He needs a reason to get his own hire in there.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/14599303-606/lovie-smith-is-phil-emerys-guy.html

[cubbyvirus00]

How is what I said overreacting?

 

 

New GM and longtime head coach. The GM has a 1 year mandate to keep Lovie. If Lovies team underwhelms at all during this season, Emery will make a move. He needs a reason to get his own hire in there.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/14599303-606/lovie-smith-is-phil-emerys-guy.html

 

You believe that article and think Emery wants Lovie for the long term?

 

Isn't Lovies deal up after 2013?

[UMFan83]

How is what I said overreacting?

 

 

New GM and longtime head coach. The GM has a 1 year mandate to keep Lovie. If Lovies team underwhelms at all during this season, Emery will make a move. He needs a reason to get his own hire in there.

 

It's not overreacting to me, its a silly statement. Of course if they play like garbage, they won't make the playoffs and Lovie will be gone. But there is an indirect implication in your statement that the Bears preseason performance has something to do with their regular season performance. If there wasn't that implication, you are just making statements like "look at that bartender serving alcohol. If he serves alcohol like that to 10 year olds, he will go to jail"

 

There is too much proof of preseason performance (yes even when the first teams are out there, and even when you are evaluating individual position groups like the o-line) having no relation to regular season performance for me to really look too deeply into these things.

[Banedon]

How is what I said overreacting?

 

 

New GM and longtime head coach. The GM has a 1 year mandate to keep Lovie. If Lovies team underwhelms at all during this season, Emery will make a move. He needs a reason to get his own hire in there.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/14599303-606/lovie-smith-is-phil-emerys-guy.html

 

You believe that article and think Emery wants Lovie for the long term?

 

Isn't Lovies deal up after 2013?

 

I believe that Emery isn't hot to get rid of Lovie. I don't think it's "if they underwhelm at all during the season". I think if the Bears make the playoffs, Lovie is safe for next year.

[cubbyvirus00]

How is what I said overreacting?

 

 

New GM and longtime head coach. The GM has a 1 year mandate to keep Lovie. If Lovies team underwhelms at all during this season, Emery will make a move. He needs a reason to get his own hire in there.

 

It's not overreacting to me, its a silly statement. Of course if they play like garbage, they won't make the playoffs and Lovie will be gone. But there is an indirect implication in your statement that the Bears preseason performance has something to do with their regular season performance. If there wasn't that implication, you are just making statements like "look at that bartender serving alcohol. If he serves alcohol like that to 10 year olds, he will go to jail"

 

There is too much proof of preseason performance (yes even when the first teams are out there, and even when you are evaluating individual position groups like the o-line) having no relation to regular season performance for me to really look too deeply into these things.

 

My thought was more along the lines of this is the year more then any past years where Lovies ass is on the hotseat. This team is expected to contend and with a first year GM, there is no margin for coaching errors. Angelo went down with the ship. Emery will not.

 

 

I agree with you Banedon that it playoffs or bust for Lovie which is going to be a tall order with the Lions and Packers in our division.

[UMFan83]

My thought was more along the lines of this is the year more then any past years where Lovies ass is on the hotseat. This team is expected to contend and with a first year GM, there is no margin for coaching errors. Angelo went down with the ship. Emery will not.

 

OK but what does that have to do with last weeks preseaon game against the Giants?

[jersey cubs fan]

My thought was more along the lines of this is the year more then any past years where Lovies ass is on the hotseat. This team is expected to contend and with a first year GM, there is no margin for coaching errors. Angelo went down with the ship. Emery will not.

 

OK but what does that have to do with last weeks preseaon game against the Giants?

 

They looked really bad in that game and if such a thing carries over into the regular season the margin of errors disappears and Lovie is gone.

[Magnetic Curses]

they're going to look bad over stretches of drives this season. cutler is my favorite football player of all time, but he goes through streaks of inaccuracy, then releases ragnarok.

[ConstableRabbit]

I came across this

today, courtesy of TMQ.

[UMFan83]

My thought was more along the lines of this is the year more then any past years where Lovies ass is on the hotseat. This team is expected to contend and with a first year GM, there is no margin for coaching errors. Angelo went down with the ship. Emery will not.

 

OK but what does that have to do with last weeks preseaon game against the Giants?

 

They looked really bad in that game and if such a thing carries over into the regular season the margin of errors disappears and Lovie is gone.

 

It won't carry over into the regular season because there's no coorelation between preseason performance and regular season performance.

 

Over the last 4 seasons, the combined regular season record of teams that went 4-0 in the preseason: 39-72

Over the last 4 seasons, the combined regular season record of teams that went 0-4 in the preseason: 82-78

 

I know this is a very basic way to look at it because the starters don't even play half the minutes in a preseason, but you would think that went a team goes 4-0 in the preseason, the team played pretty good football, starters, reserves, etc, and vice versa with 0-4 teams

[cubbyvirus00]

My thought was more along the lines of this is the year more then any past years where Lovies ass is on the hotseat. This team is expected to contend and with a first year GM, there is no margin for coaching errors. Angelo went down with the ship. Emery will not.

 

OK but what does that have to do with last weeks preseaon game against the Giants?

 

They looked really bad in that game and if such a thing carries over into the regular season the margin of errors disappears and Lovie is gone.

 

It won't carry over into the regular season because there's no coorelation between preseason performance and regular season performance.

 

Over the last 4 seasons, the combined regular season record of teams that went 4-0 in the preseason: 39-72

Over the last 4 seasons, the combined regular season record of teams that went 0-4 in the preseason: 82-78

 

I know this is a very basic way to look at it because the starters don't even play half the minutes in a preseason, but you would think that went a team goes 4-0 in the preseason, the team played pretty good football, starters, reserves, etc, and vice versa with 0-4 teams

 

Obviously a losing streak/winning streak means nothing and the overall record means nothing. However strictly looking at the limited snaps the first team received, there can be plenty of concern among fans and it would be extremely naive to call it 'overreacting.' We have line issues on both sides of the ball, a medicore secondary and an injured Pro Bowl LB that plays the most important position in our defensive scheme.

 

This defense is well on its way to being shitty the longer we continue to whiff on draft picks and take stupid gambles.

[jersey cubs fan]

It won't carry over into the regular season because there's no coorelation between preseason performance and regular season performance.

 

It may or may not carry over. Preseason record doesn't tell us one way or the other. And your example hardly applies considering the Bears are 2-1.

[Banedon]

Madden 13 simulations have the Bears winning the division, tying at 12-4 with the Packers, getting the #1 seed in the NFC.

 

http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news/article/tom-brady-wins-mvp-andrew-luck-offensive-rookie-year

[UMFan83]

It won't carry over into the regular season because there's no coorelation between preseason performance and regular season performance.

 

It may or may not carry over. Preseason record doesn't tell us one way or the other. And your example hardly applies considering the Bears are 2-1.

 

That was just an example showing that preseason play doesnt mean anything. If you go off the assumption that you have to be playing "well" to go 4-0 in the preseason, it means nothing with regards to the regular season success of the team.

 

As far as individual units, how much can you really take out of watching the defensive line going vanilla with no gameplan tailored to the opponent? No disguises, little blitzing, etc. Or the offensive line...are they coming up with a game plan to handle the other team's best pass rusher, or are they hiding that plan so that other teams with elite pass rushers don't have tape on it? And then you consider the fact that as much as the players want to to play as hard as they can, unless you are fighting for a spot on the team or a starting role the intensity is not 100%, not for the opponents, not for the Bears. So you have Bears players playing at 85% running very basic plays out of very basic formations going against a team that is also playing at 85% running very basic plays and this is supposed to tell you anything about the regular season?

[jersey cubs fan]

It won't carry over into the regular season because there's no coorelation between preseason performance and regular season performance.

 

It may or may not carry over. Preseason record doesn't tell us one way or the other. And your example hardly applies considering the Bears are 2-1.

 

That was just an example showing that preseason play doesnt mean anything. If you go off the assumption that you have to be playing "well" to go 4-0 in the preseason, it means nothing with regards to the regular season success of the team.

 

As far as individual units, how much can you really take out of watching the defensive line going vanilla with no gameplan tailored to the opponent? No disguises, little blitzing, etc. Or the offensive line...are they coming up with a game plan to handle the other team's best pass rusher, or are they hiding that plan so that other teams with elite pass rushers don't have tape on it? And then you consider the fact that as much as the players want to to play as hard as they can, unless you are fighting for a spot on the team or a starting role the intensity is not 100%, not for the opponents, not for the Bears. So you have Bears players playing at 85% running very basic plays out of very basic formations going against a team that is also playing at 85% running very basic plays and this is supposed to tell you anything about the regular season?

 

I think you are taking statements made the wrong way. They looked like crap and if they play like that in the regular season it will be trouble. I made no statement about the likelihood of that happening. The statement was about "if" they played the way they played against the Giants, not that they would.

[Banedon]

Urlacher hasn’t practiced since getting his knee scoped two weeks ago, but coach Lovie Smith said Tuesday that the linebacker is making progress. Smith expects to see Urlacher back on the field for practice next week and he hasn’t altered his belief that we’ll see Urlacher in the lineup to try to force Andrew Luck into some boneheaded mistakes a week from Sunday.

 

“Just like we’ve said all along, I expect to see No. 54 on the field next week in practice and playing against the Colts,” Smith said, via the Northwest Herald.

[Banedon]

Sam Hurd got his bail revoked today and apparently Marion Barber was in the court, supporting him.

[SpongeWorthy]

Barber is out of bounds offering that kind of support

[cubbyvirus00]

Barber is out of bounds offering that kind of support

 

Well played.

[cubbyvirus00]

Redskins released Cooley. Yes or no?

[Sammy Sofa]

Yes, they released him.

 

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII-OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[CubInOK]

We should take a flyer on Cooley because he's pretty young and was a decent player once. If he's not decent, then it won't be a decent move.

[JonJayCutler]

Hearing the Bears may a trade for a safety before Week 1.

 

Also, would be nice to see Paea on the field soon. That pick is starting to feel like a waste.