Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[WrigleyField 22]

drafting a linebacker in the first round would be monumentally stupid.

Not if Kuechly is there at 19. And if we trade down, David would make sense in the bottom 20's, despite being a slight reach. Thats also supposing there isn't also an equally talented player at a position of greater need, but I wouldm't be upset with a LB if the right circumstances happen.

 

 

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[davell]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/michael-lombardi/130112?module=HP11_hot_topics

 

 

LOL at Lombardi's mock draft. Check it out.

The thing is though, the actual draft will look much more like this, than the typical cookie cutter types, we see being mocked. Teams make mistakes and also look at their needs differently than what analysts do. At least this mock includes some headscratchers, unlike most mocks out there.

[Magnetic Curses]

drafting a linebacker in the first round would be monumentally stupid.

Not if Kuechly is there at 19. And if we trade down, David would make sense in the bottom 20's, despite being a slight reach. Thats also supposing there isn't also an equally talented player at a position of greater need, but I wouldm't be upset with a LB if the right circumstances happen.

 

 

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we're set up to win right away, kuechly doesn't help us do that. you draft immediate impact players right away and then projects later on.

 

i don't and have never believed in drafting the best player available, regardless of position. it may be that you have a more talented and seasoned alternative ahead of them on the depth chart. if kuechly falls, you look to trade down, if you can't you draft a pass rusher.

[davell]

If it just takes a 3rd rounder to get Umenyiora, I hope like hell we do that.

[cubbyvirus00]

If it just takes a 3rd rounder to get Umenyiora, I hope like hell we do that.

 

Getting Osi + drafting a Dlineman in the first round would inject scary potential with our defense.

[jersey cubs fan]

drafting a linebacker in the first round would be monumentally stupid.

Not if Kuechly is there at 19. And if we trade down, David would make sense in the bottom 20's, despite being a slight reach. Thats also supposing there isn't also an equally talented player at a position of greater need, but I wouldm't be upset with a LB if the right circumstances happen.

 

 

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we're set up to win right away, kuechly doesn't help us do that. you draft immediate impact players right away and then projects later on.

 

i don't and have never believed in drafting the best player available, regardless of position. it may be that you have a more talented and seasoned alternative ahead of them on the depth chart. if kuechly falls, you look to trade down, if you can't you draft a pass rusher.

 

With a qb or rb, sure. But with every other position there is more than enough room for that type of talent.

[WrigleyField 22]

drafting a linebacker in the first round would be monumentally stupid.

Not if Kuechly is there at 19. And if we trade down, David would make sense in the bottom 20's, despite being a slight reach. Thats also supposing there isn't also an equally talented player at a position of greater need, but I wouldm't be upset with a LB if the right circumstances happen.

 

 

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we're set up to win right away, kuechly doesn't help us do that. you draft immediate impact players right away and then projects later on.

 

i don't and have never believed in drafting the best player available, regardless of position. it may be that you have a more talented and seasoned alternative ahead of them on the depth chart. if kuechly falls, you look to trade down, if you can't you draft a pass rusher.

It all depends. Is there a DE available who will step in right away with an impact or be an improvement over someone we have? Because Kuechly is an immediate improvement over Roach, not to mention a long term replacement to Urlacher. And what DE are you drafting? If its Perry, i have to say a very similar DE in Curry is most likely going to be available at 50, but neither one will necessarily be an immediate upgrade to Idonije. Though with the way we rotate our DL, a third DE will see more time than a third OLB.

 

Also when looking at this class, DE is deeper than LB when you look at 4-3 backers. You could find a develpment DE who fills in immediately as a situational rusher at first. Someone like Irvin in the third (though he has some red flags, 3rd is a good place to risk those).

 

As far as David goes, I mentioned him just because he's such a perfect scheme fit. Although perhaps a new GM isn't going to worry too much about scheme when the coach he has isn't the one he hired.

 

 

 

 

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[Magnetic Curses]

i wouldn't say that kuechly is an immediate improvement over roach. roach is a very good player and even if there's an upgrade, it's not significant enough to use a first round pick on.

 

you're also playing with fire if you're going to be moving kuechly around like that. iirc, we tried urlacher at sam in preseason and he failed miserably and if we persisted, it may have ruined him.

[UK1679666180]

drafting a linebacker in the first round would be monumentally stupid.

Not if Kuechly is there at 19. And if we trade down, David would make sense in the bottom 20's, despite being a slight reach. Thats also supposing there isn't also an equally talented player at a position of greater need, but I wouldm't be upset with a LB if the right circumstances happen.

 

 

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we're set up to win right away, kuechly doesn't help us do that. you draft immediate impact players right away and then projects later on.

 

i don't and have never believed in drafting the best player available, regardless of position. it may be that you have a more talented and seasoned alternative ahead of them on the depth chart. if kuechly falls, you look to trade down, if you can't you draft a pass rusher.

 

If he's there you grab him, helps immediately as he's the safest and most ready pick there.

 

While they need a DE/DT more, they need another LB as Roach was ordinary.

 

Personally, I'm hoping for Gilmore (DB) and Curry (DE) with the 1st two picks.

[Magnetic Curses]

roach is not ordinary, he simply plays an ordinary position. i've made the case for not taking him, though. he's not much of an upgrade at an unimportant position, and he could be screwed up playing out of position while we wait for urlacher to retire, which could be a while.

 

it's an indefinite waste of a pick.

[cubbyvirus00]

I'm thinking DE then CB or vice versa with the first two picks.

 

 

WR in the third.

[Magnetic Curses]

no CB in the first round, please. although it would be smarter than drafting LB.

 

i'm starting to get skeptical that they even draft a WR, it looks like they may be full at the position.

[Magnetic Curses]

oh, and i think there's a real chance that we trade forte in the next 24 hours.

[RynoRules]

oh, and i think there's a real chance that we trade forte in the next 24 hours.

 

If it means trading him to Cleavland so we can draft Richardson, count me in. :wink:

 

Teams that might want him:

 

Jets

Tampa Bay

Redskins

Miami

[Theo]

The Bears don't have the capspace to trade for Osi under his current contract let alone the fact he's barking for a new deal. It's not going to happen.

[Old Style]

What kind of Poindexter do we have running this team?

 

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4f989749/turbine/ct-spt-0426-bowen-bears-nfl-draft--20120425/400/16x9

[Sammy Sofa]

He probably found them in the toilet.

[davell]

Osi counts less than 4 mill against the cap right now. He also said today, he just wants out and doesn't need a new deal. A cut or two or getting a guy or two to restructure and he's VERY attainable.

[Magnetic Curses]

oh, and i think there's a real chance that we trade forte in the next 24 hours.

 

If it means trading him to Cleavland so we can draft Richardson, count me in. :wink:

 

Teams that might want him:

 

Jets

Tampa Bay

Redskins

Miami

 

or we get cleveland's second pick and take coby fleener, then dan herron in the 6th instead of hanna.

 

1. mercilus

1. fleener

2. zeitler

3. jenkins

4. forston

5. dennard

6. herron

7. burfict

 

unlikely, but i can dream

[davell]

I think there is zero chance Burfict gets drafted at this point. And personally I think there's very little chance Jenkins is available to us in the 2nd, much less the 3rd.

[Magnetic Curses]

I think there is zero chance Burfict gets drafted at this point. And personally I think there's very little chance Jenkins is available to us in the 2nd, much less the 3rd.

 

you're probably right about jenkins, but burfict will get drafted.

[rawaction]

oh, and i think there's a real chance that we trade forte in the next 24 hours.

 

If it means trading him to Cleavland so we can draft Richardson, count me in. :wink:

 

Teams that might want him:

 

Jets

Tampa Bay

Redskins

Miami

 

or we get cleveland's second pick and take coby fleener, then dan herron in the 6th instead of hanna.

 

1. mercilus

1. fleener

2. zeitler

3. jenkins

4. forston

5. dennard

6. herron

7. burfict

 

unlikely, but i can dream

 

I will likely jump off a bridge if the Bears take Fleener in the 1st round, whether its at 19 or 32. You don't trade Greg Olsen for a 3rd round pick and then draft Greg Olsen in the 1st round the next year. Fleener's damn near a clone.

 

Oh yeah and that entire draft class would be the first ever to spend time together in mini-camps and prison.

[Magnetic Curses]

okay, swap fleener with kendall wright, take dwight bentley in the third and evan rodriguez in the 5th.

 

1. mercilus

1. wright

2. zeitler

3. bentley

4. forston

5. rodriguez

6. herron

7. burfict

[rawaction]

okay, swap fleener with kendall wright, take dwight bentley in the third and evan rodriguez in the 5th.

 

1. mercilus

1. wright

2. zeitler

3. bentley

4. forston

5. rodriguez

6. herron

7. burfict

 

I'll take that.

[Guest]

As draft prospects, Fleener is way better than Olsen was.