Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm just amazed your not working in an nfl front office with all the vast insight you have

Yeah thanks. This isn't rocket science. It's freaking football

[Banedon]

And yet you know it better than the pros. I'm not against criticizing picks, but you're way over the top on this one. The guy was a first round rated pick. They probably reached a bit. But it's not like there's never been a productive NFL player from Boise before.

[jersey cubs fan]

And yet you know it better than the pros. I'm not against criticizing picks, but you're way over the top on this one. The guy was a first round rated pick. They probably reached a bit. But it's not like there's never been a productive NFL player from Boise before.

The pros? Or just the military strength coach running the bears?

 

You don't look for potentially productive players at 19. You look for potential dominance. This guy will spell idonije and be on punt coverage.

[Banedon]

Right on. I'll just let you rant man. Go ahead and hate the pick. I'm not gonna argue with you about it.

[jersey cubs fan]

Right on. I'll just let you rant man. Go ahead and hate the pick. I'm not gonna argue with you about it.

Go ahead and pretend you support the hometown kid while secretly dreading him being exposed

[davell]

Anyone be willing to give up our 3rd to move to 33?

[jersey cubs fan]

Worst part? Shea. What a terrible name. It's what mets fans name their daughters.

[UK1679666180]

Anyone be willing to give up our 3rd to move to 33?

 

Yes, normally I wouldn't but there's too much still on the board.

[Tyrant]

 

I think the immediate overreaction from people is over the top. There were other guys I'd have gone after first, but I don't think it was a bad pick. Just not the one I'd have made.

No it was bad. The scout master got his boy scout, not an impact football player.

How can you possibly know this, without him playing a down in the NFL.

You don't need to see a guy play in nfl.

 

He hardly impressed against that Boise schedule. Wait until the tweener sees nfl linemen.

 

How much have you seen him play?

[dew1679666265]

And yet you know it better than the pros. I'm not against criticizing picks, but you're way over the top on this one. The guy was a first round rated pick. They probably reached a bit. But it's not like there's never been a productive NFL player from Boise before.

 

McClellin was eventually rated a 1st round pick, but he shot up the board very late in the process and it was largely due to off the field workouts. I have no vested interest either way in the pick, but I think it was a pretty big reach for a 4-3 defense that he'll have some trouble fitting into.

 

It is a Tampa 2 defense, so it's not all that crazy to think he could be productive at DE (Freeney is only 6'1 after all), but I do question his ability to excel at end in the NFL.

[Smack]

Anyone be willing to give up our 3rd to move to 33?

 

Maybe if they have a player they think they really need. But I would say no, there are too many talented players left and there will be a bunch left in the third round too. Kiper has us taking Zach Brown from UNC at #50. Scouts Inc. has us taking Casey Hayward CB from Vanderbilt.

[jersey cubs fan]

And yet you know it better than the pros. I'm not against criticizing picks, but you're way over the top on this one. The guy was a first round rated pick. They probably reached a bit. But it's not like there's never been a productive NFL player from Boise before.

 

McClellin was eventually rated a 1st round pick, but he shot up the board very late in the process and it was largely due to off the field workouts. I have no vested interest either way in the pick, but I think it was a pretty big reach for a 4-3 defense that he'll have some trouble fitting into.

 

It is a Tampa 2 defense, so it's not all that crazy to think he could be productive at DE (Freeney is only 6'1 after all), but I do question his ability to excel at end in the NFL.

Work out warriors.

Post season chart climber

Tweener

 

Three strikes

[dew1679666265]

Work out warriors.

Post season chart climber

Tweener

 

Three strikes

 

Yeah, those are 3 very big red flags to me for any player. I've said before I like McClellin, but not nearly this high.

[Magnetic Curses]

Work out warriors.

Post season chart climber

Tweener

 

Three strikes

 

Yeah, those are 3 very big red flags to me for any player. I've said before I like McClellin, but not nearly this high.

 

he's a 3-4 linebacker

[rawaction]

This is kind of a wait and see pick for me. Not the no-brainer like Carimi was last year. I think the biggest asset McClellin provides is his versatility. As a player, he's almost an exact clone of Mike Vrabel. I'm guessing I'm not the only one that sees the Vrabel similarities either, as Emery has mentioned the "Patriot Way" a few times since being hire in Chicago. The thing with Vrabel though is that he played every year of his career in a 3-4 defense. But what he did was play LOLB, ROLB, and ILB in the 3-4 starting for multiple seasons at each position and playing all 3 during most games in his career. Like Vrabel, I think McClellin can play all those positions. He can rush the passer from the 3-pt stance, he can blitz from the 2pt stance, he can play the run inside or out. He's actually one of the better LBs in zone coverage in this draft. The problem I see is that he's not elite enough in any of those areas to ONLY do one of those things on a consistent basis in the NFL. He's pretty decent at all of them though, which is where his value lies.

 

The Bears looked at a lot of undersized guys with speed this offseason. Bruce Irvin, McClellin, Tim Fugger from Vandy, Darius Fleming from ND, and Melvin Ingram. So, I wonder if they are possibly going to use McClellin as a SLB on run downs and as a pass rusher in the nickel. I think that would maximize his abilities to help this team.

 

My biggest issue is that if the Bears really wanted to improve the pass rush, I think Perry, Mercilus and Jones were all better pass rushers on the board. I'm not a big fan of Jones, but I think he would've been a better fit. Mercilus would be strictly a pass rusher who wouldn't help on run downs but really get after the QB on 3rd and long. Perry was the best all-around player to me with strength in the run game and explosion off the edge rushing the passer. I don't hate the pick of McClellin, but also don't love it. But let's all hope he performs well in whatever role the Bears put him in.

[dew1679666265]

he's a 3-4 linebacker

 

I think he could fit a 4-3 OLB spot, but yeah I think he fits a 3-4 better. Again, though, that tweener type player has succeeded in the Tampa 2 in the past so I wouldn't completely discount his chances.

[Magnetic Curses]

And yet you know it better than the pros. I'm not against criticizing picks, but you're way over the top on this one. The guy was a first round rated pick. They probably reached a bit. But it's not like there's never been a productive NFL player from Boise before.

 

in chicago, the "pros" have generally gotten these picks wrong, this year looks to be no different. i don't see why you all are so married to the idea that "pros" don't make terrible mistakes.

[Magnetic Curses]

perry, mercilus, and even jones all have the ability to bull rush. this kid avoids contact on the rush and tries to outguess the tackles. he's got good instincts, but he's not a physical player. if you can't play physical, you're going to lose contain a lot in the NFL.

 

this guy is a gimmick player, a situational pass-rusher. if he's got good coverage skills, they can play him at linebacker on downs 1-2 and then put his hand on the ground on 3rd, but that doesn't sound like something lovie does.

[Soul]

This is kind of a wait and see pick for me. Not the no-brainer like Carimi was last year. I think the biggest asset McClellin provides is his versatility. As a player, he's almost an exact clone of Mike Vrabel. I'm guessing I'm not the only one that sees the Vrabel similarities either, as Emery has mentioned the "Patriot Way" a few times since being hire in Chicago. The thing with Vrabel though is that he played every year of his career in a 3-4 defense. But what he did was play LOLB, ROLB, and ILB in the 3-4 starting for multiple seasons at each position and playing all 3 during most games in his career. Like Vrabel, I think McClellin can play all those positions. He can rush the passer from the 3-pt stance, he can blitz from the 2pt stance, he can play the run inside or out. He's actually one of the better LBs in zone coverage in this draft. The problem I see is that he's not elite enough in any of those areas to ONLY do one of those things on a consistent basis in the NFL. He's pretty decent at all of them though, which is where his value lies.

 

The Bears looked at a lot of undersized guys with speed this offseason. Bruce Irvin, McClellin, Tim Fugger from Vandy, Darius Fleming from ND, and Melvin Ingram. So, I wonder if they are possibly going to use McClellin as a SLB on run downs and as a pass rusher in the nickel. I think that would maximize his abilities to help this team.

 

My biggest issue is that if the Bears really wanted to improve the pass rush, I think Perry, Mercilus and Jones were all better pass rushers on the board. I'm not a big fan of Jones, but I think he would've been a better fit. Mercilus would be strictly a pass rusher who wouldn't help on run downs but really get after the QB on 3rd and long. Perry was the best all-around player to me with strength in the run game and explosion off the edge rushing the passer. I don't hate the pick of McClellin, but also don't love it. But let's all hope he performs well in whatever role the Bears put him in.

 

Yes, and Vrabel was selected more in the area where I would have expected.

 

I don't hate the player, I dislike the pick. Obviously I hope McClellin becomes a fantastic Bear.

[minnesotacubsfan]

My problem with McClellin is when you have needs at WR, DE, OL AND CB, and you have almost the pick of the litter at a couple of those positions, you don't draft the guy who *might* work in your system.

 

 

Also, wtf is wrong with the kids mouth? It's like 1/2" wide

[davell]

The fact Emery said he's adaptable must make Lovie cringe. If we wind up with a new head coach that runs a 3-4, at least this guy fits. Still, not the type guy that helps put us over the top, to me at least.

[Banedon]

And yet you know it better than the pros. I'm not against criticizing picks, but you're way over the top on this one. The guy was a first round rated pick. They probably reached a bit. But it's not like there's never been a productive NFL player from Boise before.

 

in chicago, the "pros" have generally gotten these picks wrong, this year looks to be no different. i don't see why you all are so married to the idea that "pros" don't make terrible mistakes.

 

Oh geez, I make one comment and I'm married to it? I'm just not married to the idea that this is definitely a horrible, awful pick, and that you or jersey know that right off the bat when these the Bears think it was the right one. Maybe it turns out bad....all draft picks are gambles and the Bears have certainly made their share of bad picks. But I'm just trying to defend the guy from some of the absolute venom that's coming from some of you guys on this pick.

[Banedon]

The fact Emery said he's adaptable must make Lovie cringe. If we wind up with a new head coach that runs a 3-4, at least this guy fits. Still, not the type guy that helps put us over the top, to me at least.

 

I kinda wondered if this had something to do with setting the Bears up for a future 3-4 switch.

[UK1679666180]

The fact Emery said he's adaptable must make Lovie cringe. If we wind up with a new head coach that runs a 3-4, at least this guy fits. Still, not the type guy that helps put us over the top, to me at least.

 

With the 19th pick, he has to be a 3 down DE IMO or a for certain pass rusher. I don't think he has those traits as much as others taken later in the rd.

 

With that said, he was a likely late 1st. I still think he's a better 3rd down DE than a starting RE. This also makes less sense when Idonije is a below avg starting RE.

[BleacherBadger]

Active, instinctive, quick feet, gets through blocks to make the tackle, high football intelligence?

 

I woulda guessed we drafted Urlacher's successor