2012 NFL Draft

[dew1679666265]

The drafts that really stood out to me were the Panthers, Bengals, and Steelers. With Kuechly, Silatolu, Adams, and Norman, I think the Panthers had a better draft than anybody. The Bengals got some really good players as well with Kirkpatrick in the first, Still in the second, Sanu in the third, and a real steal with Orson Charles. I thought Zeitler was a bit of a reach, but they were solid otherwise. The top of the Steelers' draft was really good with DeCastro (2nd best lineman in the draft behind Kalil) and Adams. And then they rounded it out well with Ta'amu and Rainey.

 

The Patriots (Dennard was a terrific value) and Rams (Brockers and Jenkins picks were really good) also had solid drafts, though I think both reached a bit early (the Pats with Jones and the Rams with Quick).

[hawkeyecub]

Rich was funny....there's that, and there was right before the draft began they showed a shot of someone in the green room on a cell phone and he shouted "Is he on a cell phone? CUT AWAY! CUT AWAY!!"

 

I didn't even think about flipping over to ESPN during the draft. The Eisen/Davis/Mayock crew was really good throughout the draft. The cellphone thing you mentioned was pretty funny.

 

But on the first night they had Deion and Irvin. Of course ESPN had Berman so I was flipping. Plus I still love me some Mel. Anyone catch the "Mel Facts" at the end of the 7th round? He's never had an ATM card, never written a check (straight cash homey) and every morning he eats pumpkin pie with fat free whipped cream but doesn't eat the crust.

[dew1679666265]

But on the first night they had Deion and Irvin.

 

That's true. Eisen and Mayock carried that part of the draft. I'd prefer it if they just had the Eisen/Davis/Mayock trio each day.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

I think the Bills quietly killed. Gilmore was my favorite all around CB in the draft and Glenn was a steal, giving them arguably the best 1-2 combo in the draft.

Like all of their players after that, even if they did trade up for Graham. Really surprised they didnt get more love by the "experts," because through the 5th they kill and their last two aren't bad either.

 

SI gave the Pats an A....fuxkin yuch...The Jets, Raiders, or Bengals pick up Wilson in the second and give away a few mid round picks early on and they get absolutely lambasted for it. Bequette is alright, but the only real solid hit they got IMO was Hightower (an awesome player). Dennard's talent was nice to pick up in the 7th, but he also hit a cop a week before the draft...Another pick any other franchise gets killed for...they get points...It's so strange.

 

Anyway, if Fitzpatrick wasn't basically a watered down Matt Schaub (very good mid tier QB) they might be the favorite in the East. Instead all their really strog offseason has done is made them a team to watch.

 

Also stunned at how the Jets' drsft gets described as solely boom or bust. Davis is a solid LB prospect easy, and a strong 3rd round pick this year. Coples was and is the most talented pass rusher in the draft (really like Irvin and Perry as well), and EVERYONE had Hill in the first and loved him until he became a Jet and only his boom/bust quality stands out. If the Pats draft gets an A I don't know how 1) everyone doesn't get an A and 2) a 1-3 scombo (and they did really well in 6-7) of Coples/Hill/Davis doesn't get more love.

 

Can't fn wait 'tip the games start...Really think Coples is going to be a stud. Stunned that guy made it to 16 with Peppers measurables.

[JimSorgi]

I'm really happy with the Colts draft. Obviously they got the best quarterback and the top two tight ends, but I also loved the Hilton and Chapman picks. They're finally going to have a great kick returner and a monster on the defensive line. Still surprised Chapman fell that far.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

I'm really happy with the Colts draft. Obviously they got the best quarterback and the top two tight ends, but I also loved the Hilton and Chapman picks. They're finally going to have a great kick returner and a monster on the defensive line. Still surprised Chapman fell that far.

 

Definitely agreed they did well for themselves. Chapman was a good DT to pick for a team making the switch to a 3-4. Nice sized, well coached DT prospect who can hand either system. Another draft that got less love than the Pats based on the solely on them being the Pats.

 

Nice for the Colts to walk away with the two top TEs...particularly since Fleener can be an all rounder while Allen got to be SEVERELY underrated (really a natural pass catcher) as the draft process got moving.

[Banedon]

Rich was funny....there's that, and there was right before the draft began they showed a shot of someone in the green room on a cell phone and he shouted "Is he on a cell phone? CUT AWAY! CUT AWAY!!"

 

I didn't even think about flipping over to ESPN during the draft. The Eisen/Davis/Mayock crew was really good throughout the draft. The cellphone thing you mentioned was pretty funny.

 

But on the first night they had Deion and Irvin. Of course ESPN had Berman so I was flipping. Plus I still love me some Mel. Anyone catch the "Mel Facts" at the end of the 7th round? He's never had an ATM card, never written a check (straight cash homey) and every morning he eats pumpkin pie with fat free whipped cream but doesn't eat the crust.

 

Well Deion was only doing the short little interviews on stage. He really wasn't involved much. They did have Faulk up there, who I think does a great job for a former player turned analyst. I had no interest in turning to ESPN the entire draft.

[hawkeyecub]

Rich was funny....there's that, and there was right before the draft began they showed a shot of someone in the green room on a cell phone and he shouted "Is he on a cell phone? CUT AWAY! CUT AWAY!!"

 

I didn't even think about flipping over to ESPN during the draft. The Eisen/Davis/Mayock crew was really good throughout the draft. The cellphone thing you mentioned was pretty funny.

 

But on the first night they had Deion and Irvin. Of course ESPN had Berman so I was flipping. Plus I still love me some Mel. Anyone catch the "Mel Facts" at the end of the 7th round? He's never had an ATM card, never written a check (straight cash homey) and every morning he eats pumpkin pie with fat free whipped cream but doesn't eat the crust.

 

Well Deion was only doing the short little interviews on stage. He really wasn't involved much. They did have Faulk up there, who I think does a great job for a former player turned analyst. I had no interest in turning to ESPN the entire draft.

 

Yeah but those interviews were immediately time to turn the channel. And every time I actually heard Faulk speak up, he really had no idea what he was talking about other than generalities about positions.

[dew1679666265]

One team I thought really had a confusing/poor draft was Cleveland. You turn a 99% chance you get Richardson into a 100% chance you get him by trading away 3 draft picks, and this is a team that needs an infusion of as much talent as it can get. Then you follow that up by taking a soon-to-be 29 year old QB with your second first rounder. I know the love for Tannehill wasn't anywhere close to universal, but if you're going to go QB in the first, go with the guy with upside and potential. Weeden's best case scenario is probably a decent, steady guy without the chance of becoming really good - and that's exactly what they already had in McCoy.

 

After that I thought the Schwartz pick was a bit of a reach, but I thought they did decently from there with Benjamin, Johnson, Acho, and Winn. When you reach on 2 of your top 3 picks, though, you really have to do well the rest of the draft to make up, and I don't think the Browns did.

[dew1679666265]

Also stunned at how the Jets' drsft gets described as solely boom or bust. Davis is a solid LB prospect easy, and a strong 3rd round pick this year. Coples was and is the most talented pass rusher in the draft (really like Irvin and Perry as well), and EVERYONE had Hill in the first and loved him until he became a Jet and only his boom/bust quality stands out. If the Pats draft gets an A I don't know how 1) everyone doesn't get an A and 2) a 1-3 scombo (and they did really well in 6-7) of Coples/Hill/Davis doesn't get more love.

 

I think that trio for the Jets was a really good top end to the draft. There were a few questionable picks after that (Ganaway, for instance, when you have a similar type back in Shonn Greene), but overall I think the Jets had a good draft.

 

And I think the Pats get the benefit of the doubt at this point. I thought trading up for Jones was questionable, but loved the Hightower pick. Wilson was a bit of a reach, but I think people are trusting the scouting eye of Belichick there. The Bequette and Dennard picks were really good, and again the Pats get the benefit of the doubt with Dennard because they've shown they can take troublemakers and get them to fall in line (Moss for most of his tenure). The more I look at their draft, though, the less impressed I'm getting. I think I did overrate them at first look.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

I thought the same about the Ganaway pick but then it hit me:

 

- Greene is an upcoming FA next year.

- Greene has a tendency to break a nail and get taken out. Him getting knocked out in Denver last year absolutely halted the offense.

- Jets have two backs with speed for Sporano to revitalize like he did Reggie Bush (McKnight and Powell, both who do have running talent).

 

They have an A/B back system with Greene/Ganaway as the As and the other two as the Bs. There should be good competition at the position now.

 

I considered Coples an absolute coup at 16. Literally laughed to see him fall into Ryan's lap like that. Even with the character knock (albeit a limp one at best with any actual thought applied) there's no way a guy like that doesn't go in the top ten nine out of ten times.

 

No clue why Belichick gets the benefit of the doubt...They haven't had a strong draft in years. McCourty and Chung are the only survivors amongst the many high picks they've used on DBs, though there's still hope for the injury prone Dowling. I don't even dislike Chandler Jones as a prospect but to trade up for him? At least he'll get to play with the best DT in the NFL in Wilfork, so he should find some lanes once in a while.

[dew1679666265]

No clue why Belichick gets the benefit of the doubt...They haven't had a strong draft in years. McCourty and Chung are the only survivors amongst the many high picks they've used on DBs, though there's still hope for the injury prone Dowling. I don't even dislike Chandler Jones as a prospect but to trade up for him? At least he'll get to play with the best DT in the NFL in Wilfork, so he should find some lanes once in a while.

 

That's a good point on the Ganaway/Greene issue. As for Belichick, he gets the benefit of the doubt because the Pats have been really good to dominant his entire tenure. When you win as much as he has, people assume you know what you're doing in pretty much everything.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

No clue why Belichick gets the benefit of the doubt...They haven't had a strong draft in years. McCourty and Chung are the only survivors amongst the many high picks they've used on DBs, though there's still hope for the injury prone Dowling. I don't even dislike Chandler Jones as a prospect but to trade up for him? At least he'll get to play with the best DT in the NFL in Wilfork, so he should find some lanes once in a while.

 

That's a good point on the Ganaway/Greene issue. As for Belichick, he gets the benefit of the doubt because the Pats have been really good to dominant his entire tenure. When you win as much as he has, people assume you know what you're doing in pretty much everything.

 

The amount of time their D has been garbage is dangerously close to the amount of time it was high end. I know as long as he has Brady they're a SB contender, but those days are coming to an end sooner rather than later. It's fine to like the TEAM year in and year out but to just hand him an A in the draft because he is who he is is lazy, which I guess shouldn't stun me about sports journalists. Their drafts have suuuucked for a whole now, and it's left them with the kind of defense they've been playing with.

[jersey cubs fan]

They just drafted serious defensive help with value at need positions. What do you expect?

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

They just drafted serious defensive help with value at need positions. What do you expect?

 

An acknowledgement of them handing out picks, which like it or not most other teams get killed for...an acknowledgement of Wilson as a WTF pick (and yes I know he was somewhat of a riser)...Maybe someone questioning the idea that trading up for a DE who didn't produce much in the Big East (please no JPP comps either, it's laughable) JUST MIGHT not be "serious defensive help?"

 

I know I know...I'm just being crazy. With studs like Darkus Butler and Terrance Wheatley coming out of their recent drafts, who am I to question the Belichick, right?

 

I just don't see it with this draft of theirs, and I'd GLADLY praise a good draft if I saw it.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I didn't get to see or follow any of the draft on Saturday so I know I missed a lot, but why wasn't Leonard Johnson drafted?

[sneakypower]

'13 mock draft!

 

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/4/28/2985072/2013-nfl-mock-draft-which-team-will-land-matt-barkley

[Guest]

'13 mock draft!

 

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/4/28/2985072/2013-nfl-mock-draft-which-team-will-land-matt-barkley

 

I think Sam Montgomery is a top-5 guy and I don't think Montee Ball sniffs the 1st round.

 

Also, Barkley and Bray probably go 1-2 (w/ trade ups needed given this draft order). Potential franchise QB don't slip.

[dew1679666265]

They just drafted serious defensive help with value at need positions. What do you expect?

 

They actually went against their normal tendency of taking high value picks. Trading up for Jones was a reach (how big depends on how much you believe in him) and Wilson was a reach. Dennard was a great value but carried a huge amount of risk and Hightower was right at value.

 

I was really surprised by the Patriots because of how aggressive they were throughout the draft. And I'm not convinced, right now, that it helped them to change strategies.

[dew1679666265]

I think Sam Montgomery is a top-5 guy and I don't think Montee Ball sniffs the 1st round.

 

Also, Barkley and Bray probably go 1-2 (w/ trade ups needed given this draft order). Potential franchise QB don't slip.

 

This has the potential to be a great top-end QB draft. Barkley, Bray, Wilson, Murray all could be really good NFL quarterbacks. I might actually like Murray more than any of them.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

'13 mock draft!

 

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/4/28/2985072/2013-nfl-mock-draft-which-team-will-land-matt-barkley

 

I think Sam Montgomery is a top-5 guy and I don't think Montee Ball sniffs the 1st round.

 

Also, Barkley and Bray probably go 1-2 (w/ trade ups needed given this draft order). Potential franchise QB don't slip.

 

Montgomery is monster.

 

Bray is made of glass, but otherwise he might be the most talented passer in college right now. Dew mentioned Murray, who I like and might actually be the guy who deserves the Brees comp that every nice guy short QB gets.

[Guest]

I think Sam Montgomery is a top-5 guy and I don't think Montee Ball sniffs the 1st round.

 

Also, Barkley and Bray probably go 1-2 (w/ trade ups needed given this draft order). Potential franchise QB don't slip.

 

This has the potential to be a great top-end QB draft. Barkley, Bray, Wilson, Murray all could be really good NFL quarterbacks. I might actually like Murray more than any of them.

 

Logan Thomas (who was in that mock) and Geno Smith are potential high 1st round picks too.

 

I do like Murray a lot (not more than Barkley) but he won't go top 5 because he lacks prototypical size.

[dew1679666265]

Logan Thomas (who was in that mock) and Geno Smith are potential high 1st round picks too.

 

Forgot about those two - this could really be a terrific QB draft.

 

I do like Murray a lot (not more than Barkley) but he won't go top 5 because he lacks prototypical size.

 

Good point on Murray's size - I don't think he'll ultimately be drafted over Barkley or even Bray, but I might like him more than either. He's really athletic and from the times I've watched him (quite a bit), there's no question he's got the arm strength. Obviously the Redskins won't take him, but an offense similar to Shanahan's bootleg offense would be perfect for Murray.

[Smack]

'13 mock draft!

 

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/4/28/2985072/2013-nfl-mock-draft-which-team-will-land-matt-barkley

 

If Short plays well enough to be picked #13 next year then Purdue should have a pretty good season.

 

They have an outside shot at playing in the B1G championship game since O$U is banned from it this year.

[rawaction]

I think Sam Montgomery is a top-5 guy and I don't think Montee Ball sniffs the 1st round.

 

Also, Barkley and Bray probably go 1-2 (w/ trade ups needed given this draft order). Potential franchise QB don't slip.

 

This has the potential to be a great top-end QB draft. Barkley, Bray, Wilson, Murray all could be really good NFL quarterbacks. I might actually like Murray more than any of them.

 

Logan Thomas (who was in that mock) and Geno Smith are potential high 1st round picks too.

 

I do like Murray a lot (not more than Barkley) but he won't go top 5 because he lacks prototypical size.

 

Yeah, this QB class is nuts. I think all 6 of those names could go in the 1st.

 

This draft is loaded at the top at WR, OT, QB, 3-4 OLB, and CB. There's always some guys that come out of nowhere also.