Joe Paterno

[TruffleShuffle]

yes that is the only reason i think the games should be played, so i can root against psu.

[Sammy Sofa]

I guess I do hate people that throw beer on/cuss at a guy holding a sign saying "put abused kids first"

 

that's all the signs said, right? nothing about canceling the season or alleging that everyone in the football program knew about the abuse?

 

Sooooo...he deserved it? He was asking for it? What exactly are you saying here? How do either of those things possibly justify the treatment he got?

 

Would he have gotten the same reaction if his sign had said "put abused kids first," as theo said?

 

Probably. The article seems to be depicting people primarily being pissed at him seemingly due to where he had positioned himself. Any message focused on the molestation at the location would likely be met with similar responses.

 

Also that article is from the Washington times, which is not especially well known for its accurate reporting. I'm sure the guy took some abuse but I quite doubt it was the hours-long barrage that the reporter claims.

 

Oh, please. Your conflating Right wing partisan slant into a charge that they inexplicably falsified an article about a protester at a Penn State game? Why would the writer or the paper do that? Are they struggling to find angles in this story to make Penn State look bad?

 

And lastly, if you're going to make a sign that says the entire program was aware of sandusky's indiscretions, what's the problem with people waking by and calling him an [expletive]? He's exercising his freedom of speech and so are they.

 

So what? Meatballs gonna meatball. They're looking like jackasses for throwing things at him and insulting him and threatening him for just standing there. But sure, because they were within their rights it's fine, right?

[TruffleShuffle]

the washington times repeatedly publishes information with factual errors; i don't trust them to produce accurate reporting on much of anything. i looked up some other articles that mentioned the name of the protester, and they didn't make it sound as bad as the washington times. given the way that the riots were reported, i'd expect that if the guy were badly mistreated then it would have been widely reported. not because there's an anti-psu bias in the media, but because sensationalizing sells.

 

and no, he did not deserve to be slapped or have beer thrown on him or have his signs thrown on the ground. but if you're going to make a sign saying that the entire football program knew that sandusky was a child molester, yes you should expect to be verbally abused.

[EhDubya]

I hope that no one here ever works at a place where a few people make bad decisions, because then maybe you may just be lumped in with them. To infer that Bradley or any other coach is on the same level as Curley and Schultz is so incredibly irresponsible it infuriates me.

 

Better yet, I hope no one here ever is told a rumor about someone they know, because apparently when a rumor is heard, you must make a judgement about them on the spot, and it better be the correct one. Otherwise you are an evil person.

[jersey cubs fan]

I hope that no one here ever works at a place where a few people make bad decisions, because then maybe you may just be lumped in with them. To infer that Bradley or any other coach is on the same level as Curley and Schultz is so incredibly irresponsible it infuriates me.

 

Better yet, I hope no one here ever is told a rumor about someone they know, because apparently when a rumor is heard, you must make a judgement about them on the spot, and it better be the correct one. Otherwise you are an evil person.

This is so idiotic it infuriates me.

 

To clarify.

 

This isn't a rumor about sally from accounting sniffing glue. This isn't a rumor about the branch manager from scranton banging the hr lady in ny. This isn't even a rumor of the new video coordinator having a cocaine problem. The coaching staff is a small group that spends an incredible amount of time together. There are maybe 10-12 core guys on the staff, and if there is one who has been there for 20+ years, is in the middle of his prime coaching years, considered for the head coaching position, has had numerous incidents of innapropriate behavior with children, and he's just pushed out the door, this isn't a rumor you can avoid or ignore.

[Sammy Sofa]

the washington times repeatedly publishes information with factual errors; i don't trust them to produce accurate reporting on much of anything. i looked up some other articles that mentioned the name of the protester, and they didn't make it sound as bad as the washington times. given the way that the riots were reported, i'd expect that if the guy were badly mistreated then it would have been widely reported. not because there's an anti-psu bias in the media, but because sensationalizing sells.

 

Bull [expletive]. You're ironically spinning the Washington Times' reputation for political spin because it suits your own purposes. Yes, the Times should be looked at with a critical eye when it comes to loaded language over partisan political issues/debates, but to try and claim that they're riddled with factual errors to the point that you should mistrust anything they publish is absurd. By the standards you're setting then you'd have to do the same with papers like the The Washington Post, NYT or WSJ, too. And expecting see the protester story "widely reported" the same way is ridiculous; it's not a major story.

 

and no, he did not deserve to be slapped or have beer thrown on him or have his signs thrown on the ground. but if you're going to make a sign saying that the entire football program knew that sandusky was a child molester, yes you should expect to be verbally abused.

 

Semantics. You really think if he mad modified the signs to say "TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM KNEW ABOUT SANDUSKY" or something along those lines he would have been treated differently?

[jersey cubs fan]

And expecting see the protester story "widely reported" the same way is ridiculous; it's not a major story.

 

Yeah, I'm guessing there wasn't a gaggle of reporters standing by him for hours to see how he was treated. This is a side story.

[Sammy Sofa]

And expecting see the protester story "widely reported" the same way is ridiculous; it's not a major story.

 

Yeah, I'm guessing there wasn't a gaggle of reporters standing by him for hours to see how he was treated. This is a side story.

 

But Truffle sees it going down like season 5 of The Wire. That guy made up human interest pieces about Orioles fans!

[SouthSideRyan]

Paterno's name has been removed from the Big Ten Championship trophy.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think I found it interesting in the wake of the Penn State scandal to note that lots of NFL scouts and personnel people do not like Penn State and hate going there.

 

THIS JUST IN: People tend to avoid going to barren rural Pennsylvania wasteland!

 

I was told by more than one front-office official of a team how hard it was to scout Penn State players… Penn State normally has one week in the fall, maybe two or three days, when scouts are allowed on campus. Sometimes it’s the team’s off week, so when scouts come in, they don’t see the players or their practice if the coaches have given the players a day or two off.

 

That’s actually pretty interesting.

 

I wondered whether that might have made any difference on draft day. It’s impossible to draw any significant conclusions…

 

NO! No, you idiot! You just had the evidence presented before you! SEAL THE [expletive] DEAL. Make the leap in logic. It’s not THAT hard.

 

…but it’s interesting.

 

OMIGOD I CAN’T BE HERE.

 

I think these are my Penn State thoughts.

 

Letting a kid get raped in the shower? LACKEY-ESQUE. And let me just issue a stern warning to Penn State’s interim President right now: Do NOT underestimate our anger towards PSU players drinking beer and eating fried chicken. The whole pederasty thing? WHATEVER. I’m talking about REAL affronts to professionalism.

 

I believe (Joe Paterno) deserved better than to be fired on the phone Wednesday night…

 

1. No, he didn’t.

 

2. Media scrutiny and Paterno’s intransigence made it virtually impossible to meet with him face-to-face.

 

3. In a way, it very much reminded me of the way the Sox fired Terry Francona. CLASSLESS.

 

…particularly because there’s so much we don’t know about the case that caused him (justifiably) to be terminated.

 

There’s so much we don’t know, except that we DO know enough to know that Paterno should have been fired, BUT we don’t know enough to know that it shouldn’t have been done by phone. Call it 40% knowing.

 

I’ve had football people tell me in the last few days just what Barry Switzer said the other day: Paterno had to know what was going on with Sandusky over the years, and the same with members of the staff. They had to know. I think there’s a good chance that is true.

 

Call it 56:1 odds.

 

But do we know Paterno knew?

 

/reads grand jury report

 

Yes.

 

No.

 

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

 

I’m having a little problem with the angry national supposition that Sandusky is suspect 1 and Paterno 1a.

 

Or, if you’re putting it in PK bullet points, your suspect list looks like this:

 

1. Sandusky

 

3q. Paterno

 

XXXg. Mike McQueary/Josh Beckett

[javy knows my name]

That is a Peter King article being picked apart by KSK FJM-style. Here is the link:

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/11/peter-king-thinks-the-psu-scandal-is-awfully-aaron-boone-ish.html

 

WTF, Jersey?

[Post Count Padder]

Ugh, I just noticed this thread. It hasn't been a fun week for Penn Staters.

[jersey cubs fan]

That is a Peter King article being picked apart by KSK FJM-style. Here is the link:

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/11/peter-king-thinks-the-psu-scandal-is-awfully-aaron-boone-ish.html

 

WTF, Jersey?

 

wtf what?

 

did you think I was trying to pretend I wrote it?

[javy knows my name]

That is a Peter King article being picked apart by KSK FJM-style. Here is the link:

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/11/peter-king-thinks-the-psu-scandal-is-awfully-aaron-boone-ish.html

 

WTF, Jersey?

 

wtf what?

 

did you think I was trying to pretend I wrote it?

 

No I did not.

[jersey cubs fan]

That is a Peter King article being picked apart by KSK FJM-style. Here is the link:

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/11/peter-king-thinks-the-psu-scandal-is-awfully-aaron-boone-ish.html

 

WTF, Jersey?

 

wtf what?

 

did you think I was trying to pretend I wrote it?

 

No I did not.

 

so why the WTF response?

[javy knows my name]

Posting something like that with no link or citation is weird, and I shouldn't have to google an excerpt of it to find out where it came from. wtf.

[jersey cubs fan]

Posting something like that with no link or citation is weird, and I shouldn't have to google an excerpt of it to find out where it came from. wtf.

 

okay, don't see what the issue is. I'd posted a link to it a couple other times and figured people who have been reading would realize what is it.

 

hardly deserved a WTF response.

[Theo]

If you can't recognize KSK, then shame on you.

[javy knows my name]

This is in the same article and cracks me up:

 

Thomas DeCoud gets beat for a touchdown and a couple of minutes later makes an easy tackle and celebrates like he just won the Super Bowl. Emote, fine. Be professional, better.

 

Again, that’s Peter’s actual writing. I didn’t alter that paragraph in any way. It’s just out there, exposed, on the side of the road like a [expletive] mangled deer. Get beat for touchdown, bad. Big celebrate, WORSER

[Laura]

CEO of Second Mile resigns

 

Jack Raykovitz, the chief executive of the Second Mile foundation for 28 years, has resigned amid a sexual abuse scandal involving the charity’s founder, the former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

 

Raykovitz’s failure to do more to stop Sandusky, who has been charged with 40 counts of sexual abuse against young boys, has been a focal point of criticism. The Pennsylvania attorney general has said that Sandusky used the Second Mile to prey on his victims, and that he met each of the eight boys mentioned in the grand jury report through the foundation.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/sports/ncaafootball/jack-raykovitz-chief-of-second-mile-resigns-amid-penn-state-scandal.html

[jersey cubs fan]

there's no way that organization can continue. They'd be better off trying to have the best parts of it start fresh, but people who ran it are going to have a credibility problem when it comes to convincing people they can help kids.

[treebird]

people who ran it are going to have a credibility problem when it comes to convincing people they can help kids.

 

"i see here on your resume that you previously worked at second mile"

 

option a: "i wasn't doing anything there at all and i had no idea what was going on and i cannot be held accountable for anything that happened there"

 

option b: "i was instrumental in second mile's community outreach, didn't we do a great job?"

 

either way, HIRED

[erik316wttn]

http://i.imgur.com/MrjLf.png

 

The circle is Jerry Sandusky's house. The other building is a school.

[Sammy Sofa]

Scoop Chang: Beijing Bugle

[Theo]

http://i.imgur.com/MrjLf.png

 

The circle is Jerry Sandusky's house. The other building is a school.

 

Those trees in between, is what they call the "Magic Forest"