Who will be the manager? no Ryno talk version

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

 

I don't see anything there that supports your last sentence about c-words. And given that they have a great rep by PAP standards, something tells me Maddux knows how to balance his macho owner with getting the best out of his pitchers.

 

1) Well they can't publish Nolan Ryan using the c-word obviously.

 

2) Not buying complete into the pitch count dram doesn't mean they don't take care of their pitchers. The fact that their owner went out and got Mike Maddux to handle his pitching shows that this guy I know you want to call a meathead (settled for the merely condescending macho) put some thought into what they want to do before hand.

 

I'm fully on board with a Mike Maddux hire...best thing they could do IMO considering they've been struggling with handling pitchers for a while now...particularly young SP.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

"Seems to be" in this context means Wittenmeyer wants it to be.

 

I think I have to join him on this dream. Mike Maddux would be such a coup for this franchise....he's arguably the best coach in baseball right now...and I absolutely love what Texas has said they're doing with their pitchers (something akin to pitch counts are for c-words).

 

pitch counts are for curmudgeons?

 

Actually...this might work.

[MSG T]

re: Pete Mackanin

 

A caller called the Score this morning, he knew Mackanin growing up at Brother Rice. I guess Mackanin coached in the Cubs minor league system(coached Mark Grace) and coached the Cubs AAA team. Well I guess the big league club was visiting and in the club house was a dart board that had picks of Jim Frey and Don Zimmer on it. When they saw this Mackanin was fired within the week.

 

Just an interesting piece of trivia.

 

Mackanin managed the Iowa Cubs for 2 full seasons. If he was fired(rather than leaving to take another job for the 1990 season) it may have been because he went 62-82 in that 2nd season.

 

 

You're right, I was thinking he was just there for just the 1988 season, but he was there for 1989 also.

[Guest]

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And suddenly, there's no doubt who I want to be the next manager.

 

Sergio Romo?

[Guest]

Pug is fine. Even cat lady thinks that's cute as hell.

 

Pugs freaking rule.

 

Pugs are ugly little aliens. Them, and all small breeds that are smaller than cats aren't dogs. They're oversized rats.

[C.C.]

Pug is fine. Even cat lady thinks that's cute as hell.

 

Pugs freaking rule.

 

Pugs are ugly little aliens. Them, and all small breeds that are smaller than cats aren't dogs. They're oversized rats.

 

Yeah, get a dog as big as a house. Be a real man! Over compensating for much?

[Sammy Sofa]

Poor some gravy on that heaping helping of irony, dammit.

[Banedon]

Small dogs are for curmudgeons, or something.

[C.C.]

Poor some gravy on that heaping helping of irony, dammit.

 

I know what a jerk, right?

[MasterBlaster]

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And suddenly, there's no doubt who I want to be the next manager.

 

Sergio Romo?

More like John Smith of the Federal Witness Protection Program.

[C.C.]

Small dogs are for curmudgeons, or something.

 

Agreed.

[AI]

Texas has placed a great emphasis on both physical conditioning, nutrition and better mechanics to improve the pitching. It is hot as hell in Texas during the summer and pitchers complained about it frequently. Ryan/Maddux/Hawkins put an emphasis on turning that into a home field advantage vs. a weakness.

[Conky]

As a Cubs fan living in Milwaukee currently, I have had the opportunity to observe Mike Maddux while he was with the Brewers. Also Sveum in his tenure. Maddux is the best at what he does in the major leagues in my opinion, outside of perhaps only Dave Duncan in St. Louis. He simply gets results, regardless of the talent he has to work with. To me, this speaks volumes as to his demeanor, work ethic, and his approach to the job of motivating personnel. Personally, I know nothing about his qualifications to run a game, however. Pitching coach and manager are two completely different animals. Knowing what I do about Maddux, however, I think he has the skill-set to do a great job as manager and I would be happy if he gets the Cubs job. Not my first choice, but I would be happy if this is the way the front office decides to go.

 

Sveum, not so much. Sveum reminds me a lot of a Reed Johnson type. Both as a player and as a personality off the field. He was a friend and teammate of Robin Yount and Paul Molitor in the glory years of the 1980's Brewers. He is by all accounts a great guy with a good baseball mind. However, he does not come across as particularly cerebral in interviews or when speaking to the media. Hard to say what he is like in his own element, but outward appearances do not do him any favors.

 

Add to this the fact that he took over as manager for the fired (and by that time hated in Milwaukee) Ned Yost at the end of the 2008 season. Sveum immediately turned the Brewers around down the stretch to the tune of a 12-7 record and a wild card berth in the playoffs. Granted, the Cubs practically handed the Brewers their ticket to the playoffs that year as they had already clinched the division and did not want to play the Mets in the playoffs. We were actually at the final game of the season that year, in Milwaukee, between the Cubs and Brewers when the Brewers made it in. You would have thought the Brewers had won the World Series with that win. As a Cubs fan living in Milwaukee, it even made me smile seeing it all unfold for the fans here.

 

In a town starved for baseball success, the likes of which had not been seen since the days of Molitor, Yount, and Gantner, Sveum had pulled off what had looked impossible only weeks before. Robin Yount even made a brief return to the dugout to help his friend for the remainder of that 2008 season. The Brewers were to bow out in the NLDS that year, but the point is that Sveum was successful in the one opportunity he was given by his home town team. Why was he not given the reins the following year?

 

I guess my question is, if he wasn't deemed good enough to run the Brewers in 2009, after getting them to the playoffs the year before, why does he merit a look for much more high profile jobs now?

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Small dogs are for curmudgeons, or something.

 

Gold.

[javy knows my name]

"Seems to be" in this context means Wittenmeyer wants it to be.

 

I think I have to join him on this dream. Mike Maddux would be such a coup for this franchise....he's arguably the best coach in baseball right now...and I absolutely love what Texas has said they're doing with their pitchers (something akin to pitch counts are for c-words).

 

Yes, definitely bring him here so Nolan Ryan can ruin all our arms

 

Seems like Texas doesn't abuse their pitchers, so this is moot, but if Ryan had it his way, from some of his comments, 130-140 pitch marathons would be the norm, and if your arm exploded, well, that was because you were a [expletive]

[javy knows my name]

That post needs more commas

[C.C.]

Quote yourself just one more time for kicks.

[jersey cubs fan]

I guess my question is, if he wasn't deemed good enough to run the Brewers in 2009, after getting them to the playoffs the year before, why does he merit a look for much more high profile jobs now?

 

I wouldn't say he got them there as much as they got there under his watch. And that reasoning doesn't mean anything to me. Lessers teams dumped Torre before he became a world series winner with the Yankees. Francona wasn't good enough for Philly before winning a world series in Boston.

[Conky]

I guess my question is, if he wasn't deemed good enough to run the Brewers in 2009, after getting them to the playoffs the year before, why does he merit a look for much more high profile jobs now?

 

I wouldn't say he got them there as much as they got there under his watch. And that reasoning doesn't mean anything to me. Lessers teams dumped Torre before he became a world series winner with the Yankees. Francona wasn't good enough for Philly before winning a world series in Boston.

 

Agreed. My point is that at the time he was up for the Milwaukee job, there was a ton of sentimental and popular support for that hire. It still didn't happen. My guess is that he doesn't interview well, given the way he comes across in public. Would like to see how he performs under the interrogation atmosphere of a Theo interview. We'll get a peek when he talks to the media after Cherington puts him through the paces in Boston first.

 

I just don't think Sveum is cut out for the kind of pressure situation in Chicago or Boston, personally.

[Tracer Bullet]

Quote yourself just one more time for kicks.

 

What is he, ssr?

[Old Style]

Small dogs are for curmudgeons, or something.

Who are corn dogs for?

[Epsteenie]

Small dogs are for curmudgeons, or something.

Who are corn dogs for?

 

Michele Bachmann

 

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[PrimeTime]

Here's the interview process Mackanin went through if anyone didn't see..I like it. Theo <3

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-mackanin-on-cubs-interview-process-they-put-me-through-the-grinder-20111104,0,7314870.story

[Conky]

Are we still expecting a meeting with Mackanin and the media today? Getting a bit late here.

[El Duderino]

Are we still expecting a meeting with Mackanin and the media today? Getting a bit late here.

 

according to the article it sounds like it already happened.