Who will be the manager? no Ryno talk version

[seanimal]

Tim I agree. Let's all take a chill pill guys. Kong Vs. Godzilla is making valid points. Let's not all be our typical prick selves.

 

roast, is that you?

[C.C.]

Tim I agree. Let's all take a chill pill guys. Kong Vs. Godzilla is making valid points. Let's not all be our typical prick selves.

 

Hahahahaha

 

I honestly don't even remember writing this? How freaking weird?

[Guest]

I SAID KNOCK IT OFF

[Scotti]

Yes, it's pretty common practice. That said, we're coming off a breakup and everything this new guy does...There's probably a mental/psych eval of some kind too.

 

 

Citation needed.

 

My wife is a tech/engineering recruiter. Absolutely common practice to run a programmer, an engineer, etc. through several hours long tests. Can take a whole day and sometimes longer. Often the final interview will be with the folks on the team--even if it is a manager being hired. Often, those teams ask the best questions.

I don't think it's as common as you think it is.

 

As I said, my wife is a recruiter that specializes in tech/engineering jobs. She has placed hundreds of candidates in hundreds of companies. She has lost countless placements (each a 4-5 figure fee for her) where some guy fails a test on some obscure cert/skill on his resume.

 

My son is in school to become a video game programmer. Every gaming company out there does this. The resume gets you an interview and the interview includes long, detailed tests. In many cases even for interns (I just read a couple days ago where one kid was applying as an intern and the company gives the interns the same tests as the professionals applying for real jobs).

[Scotti]

FWIW, the interview and subsequent media of Mackanin and the Boston interview of Sveum have me down on both.

 

Mackanin did a radio spot in Chicago were he was asked about statistical analysis and he said that he was "open to it" and he took a class in college. Doesn't sound like a guy coming in who is ready from a technological standpoint and the dude is 60...

 

Sveum's "I don't want to say it was comical, but if you do the same thing in Milwaukee, there's nothing really said about it" doesn't really look like he knows when not to think out loud.

[Guest]

Dave Martinez!

 

Actually, the guy they bring in for manager doesn't have to do any of the heavy lifting on the statistics. As long as the manager is receptive to the information delivered to him and is willing to manage accordingly, everything should work fine.

[C.C.]

Dave Martinez!

 

Actually, the guy they bring in for manager doesn't have to do any of the heavy lifting on the statistics. As long as the manager is receptive to the information delivered to him and is willing to manage accordingly, everything should work fine.

 

Yeah, I'm really starting to pull for this. Just got a good feeling about the guy. None of the other candidates excite me much.

[Banedon]

Dave Martinez!

 

Actually, the guy they bring in for manager doesn't have to do any of the heavy lifting on the statistics. As long as the manager is receptive to the information delivered to him and is willing to manage accordingly, everything should work fine.

 

Well they don't have to calculate the stats or anything, but they still have to be able to value them correctly. To know which stats are valuable and which aren't, and in which situations that they are the most valuable.

 

Maybe that's what you meant.

[jersey cubs fan]

FWIW, the interview and subsequent media of Mackanin and the Boston interview of Sveum have me down on both.

 

Mackanin did a radio spot in Chicago were he was asked about statistical analysis and he said that he was "open to it" and he took a class in college. Doesn't sound like a guy coming in who is ready from a technological standpoint and the dude is 60...

 

His answers read like an old man desperate for one last chance at a managerial job who says he's open to anything, then he goes home and asks his grandson to call the internent and figure out what these stats mean. He definitely seems like somebody who uses the wrong stats.

[Brett]

Dave Martinez!

 

Actually, the guy they bring in for manager doesn't have to do any of the heavy lifting on the statistics. As long as the manager is receptive to the information delivered to him and is willing to manage accordingly, everything should work fine.

 

Which is almost certainly why you see the Cubs bringing in guys who've not had managerial experience before, and maybe even is among the (many) reasons why Sandberg was not considered. Theo and Jed want someone they can ... control is the wrong word ... work with.

[RammyFanny]

Thanks for posting that radio tidbit on Mackinin. I've seen people here say that he's good with stats, but he just sounded like a typical old fart when talking to the media. I was doubting it based upon first impression.

[Guest]

Dave Martinez!

 

Actually, the guy they bring in for manager doesn't have to do any of the heavy lifting on the statistics. As long as the manager is receptive to the information delivered to him and is willing to manage accordingly, everything should work fine.

 

Which is almost certainly why you see the Cubs bringing in guys who've not had managerial experience before, and maybe even is among the (many) reasons why Sandberg was not considered. Theo and Jed want someone they can ... control is the wrong word ... work with.

That's the guess. I'm sure that we will end up with someone fully bought into "the cubs way"

[UK1679666180]

How bad was Mackanin at his interview? I heard it was pretty bad. While being lazy, is there any audio of his mock session with the media?

[PrimeTime]

Isn't there some action going on today? I think Maddux was supposed to be interviewed last week, but was sick , so I believe he might be interviewing today...Im hoping it's him or Martinez who gets hired.

[Cubswin11]

Isn't there some action going on today? I think Maddux was supposed to be interviewed last week, but was sick , so I believe he might be interviewing today...Im hoping it's him or Martinez who gets hired.

I thought Sveum was interviewing today. Could be wrong though. I think it's one of Sveum/Maddux

[Guest]

Unfortunately, it seems Martinez isn't a candidate. Has anyone heard any names beyond mackanin, maddux, svuem, hale, alomar?

[UK1679666180]

Unfortunately, it seems Martinez isn't a candidate. Has anyone heard any names beyond mackanin, maddux, svuem, hale, alomar?

 

I haven't.

 

I can't remember how much Francona was being rumored before being hired in Boston.

[davearm2]

Unfortunately, it seems Martinez isn't a candidate. Has anyone heard any names beyond mackanin, maddux, svuem, hale, alomar?

Francona, obviously.

 

In the back of my mind, I keep thinking Francona is the measuring stick for the rest of these guys.

 

To borrow a golf analogy, Francona's the leader in the clubhouse at even par; if one of these others can step up and break par, they'll win.

[Banedon]

Sveum is interviewing today. Maddux sometime this week. Martinez is mentioned as a candidate in some articles, but that seems to be more reporters "suggesting" it. No specifics ever mentioned.

[Guest]

Unfortunately, it seems Martinez isn't a candidate. Has anyone heard any names beyond mackanin, maddux, svuem, hale, alomar?

 

I haven't.

 

I can't remember how much Francona was being rumored before being hired in Boston.

Given the nature of the interview process, we should get visibility of every candidate that makes it to that stage.

[Brett]

Unfortunately, it seems Martinez isn't a candidate. Has anyone heard any names beyond mackanin, maddux, svuem, hale, alomar?

 

Have you heard that about Martinez, or do you mean we aren't hearing much more on him right now? I still see his name pop up in speculated lists about the "next round" of interviews (with Hale and Alomar).

[rocket]

hopefully all these candidates sound like morons during the press interview, and ryno comes swooping in to take his rightful place

[El Duderino]

Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that Indians bench coach Sandy Alomar Jr., Red Sox bench coach DeMarlo Hale and Rays bench coach Dave Martinez are all being considered for the Cubs' vacant managerial position.

It's the first we've heard about any of them being associated with the Cubs job. Alomar Jr. and Martinez are also being considered by the Red Sox. It's not clear when any of the triumvirate will interview, but it appears they'll have some work to do, as Brewers hitting coach Dale Sveum and Rangers pitching coach Mike Maddux are viewed as the early favorites for the job.

 

per rotoworld

[UK1679666180]

Unfortunately, it seems Martinez isn't a candidate. Has anyone heard any names beyond mackanin, maddux, svuem, hale, alomar?

 

I haven't.

 

I can't remember how much Francona was being rumored before being hired in Boston.

Given the nature of the interview process, we should get visibility of every candidate that makes it to that stage.

 

True.

 

Having been involved with the interview process (not nearly the importance), I wouldn't put any stock into order of candidates.

 

The only thing I want is that Martinez and Lovullo get the chance to interview.

[AI]

Can't find the link but the last report from Texas was Maddux was interviewing with Boston Tuesday and Chicago Wednesday (though I may have those flip-flopped).