David Wright available?

[jersey cubs fan]

For what it's worth, Wright went from the darling of Mets fandom to persona non grata. The negative energy toward him in the stadium is palpable. They hate him. And the team's finances are a mess. I could see them giving him away.

[RynoRules]

For what it's worth, Wright went from the darling of Mets fandom to persona non grata. The negative energy toward him in the stadium is palpable. They hate him. And the team's finances are a mess. I could see them giving him away.

 

Sounds familiar. Z for Wright, straight up? :wink:

[RynoRules]

I just don't see the huge risk here. The Mets can't demand McNutt-level guys for him anymore, so you buy low. The real value to the Mets comes in shedding his salary a year early.

 

But I also see the other side of this - wait a year and then sign him as FA.

 

 

You really think the Mets can't demand McNutt-level prospects? With a poor FA market @ 3B there would be lots of interest which would drive the price up.

 

Let me re-phrase that - they can demand but they aren't likely to receive...

[Clem Fandango]

For what it's worth, Wright went from the darling of Mets fandom to persona non grata. The negative energy toward him in the stadium is palpable. They hate him. And the team's finances are a mess. I could see them giving him away.

 

Do Mets fans really hate David Wright? Awesome. Easier to acquire.

[jersey cubs fan]

For what it's worth, Wright went from the darling of Mets fandom to persona non grata. The negative energy toward him in the stadium is palpable. They hate him. And the team's finances are a mess. I could see them giving him away.

 

Do Mets fans really hate David Wright? Awesome. Easier to acquire.

 

Not all of them. But a large vocal number of them constantly berate him.

[apete6]

For what it's worth, Wright went from the darling of Mets fandom to persona non grata. The negative energy toward him in the stadium is palpable. They hate him. And the team's finances are a mess. I could see them giving him away.

 

Do Mets fans really hate David Wright? Awesome. Easier to acquire.

 

Not all of them. But a large vocal number of them constantly berate him.

 

So he's like their Aramis? Even though most of the fans like Aramis, all of the unfortunately "important" media hates him (Kaplan, Sullivan, etc...)

[jersey cubs fan]

For what it's worth, Wright went from the darling of Mets fandom to persona non grata. The negative energy toward him in the stadium is palpable. They hate him. And the team's finances are a mess. I could see them giving him away.

 

Do Mets fans really hate David Wright? Awesome. Easier to acquire.

 

Not all of them. But a large vocal number of them constantly berate him.

 

So he's like their Aramis? Even though most of the fans like Aramis, all of the unfortunately "important" media hates him (Kaplan, Sullivan, etc...)

 

Sort of I guess. But the fans are much more vocally negative. I've never heard Wrigley turn on Ramirez. And the fans often give him their loudest applause. I've been at Citi Field a couple times where there is nothing but negative noice with Wright up.

[Guest]

Why did they sour on Wright? Injuries?

[jersey cubs fan]

Why did they sour on Wright? Injuries?

 

Injuries, a perceived decline in performance and if I remember correctly, some sort of "clutchiness" issue in the playoffs. Plus, they equate him to the dismal post-NLCS run they have been on. Wright and Reyes are the faces of this franchise and every year there is talk about trading one or both and moving on or trying to hold it together. I also think there are personality issues, maybe he's said some things they think make him look weak. Not sure exactly.

[Guest]

For the Mets, it is a real shame that they've effectively wasted the Wright/Reyes era. As a Cubs fan born in the '60's, I'm thrilled about it.

[scarey]

It seems like there are a lot of people in this thread trying to convince themselves that the Cubs could get Wright for next to nothing. I'm certainly not convinced that's reality.

[jersey cubs fan]

I doubt it would be next to nothing but I'm guessing the price would be somewhat depressed

[davearm2]

Why did they sour on Wright? Injuries?

 

Injuries, a perceived decline in performance and if I remember correctly, some sort of "clutchiness" issue in the playoffs. Plus, they equate him to the dismal post-NLCS run they have been on. Wright and Reyes are the faces of this franchise and every year there is talk about trading one or both and moving on or trying to hold it together. I also think there are personality issues, maybe he's said some things they think make him look weak. Not sure exactly.

Perceived?

[SABR Gamer]

I'd love to have Wright at 3rd for the Cubs. I think he could put up a nice year at Wrigley.

[toonsterwu]

It seems like there are a lot of people in this thread trying to convince themselves that the Cubs could get Wright for next to nothing. I'm certainly not convinced that's reality.

 

I don't think so either. Certainly, any team trading for Wright will want a window to negotiate, and the Mets would likely grant one as they would want to maximize their return.

 

I guess the problem is that the Mets are going to value him as a star player, while other teams are going to question how much he has left in the tank. Alderson and Co. don't seem like the type that would bend to public pressure for the most part (he really hasn't for most of his history), and Wright is their one chip that could net several quality assets to accelerate the rebuilding process while cutting costs (they have some solid pieces in Ike Davis and several arms coming up the pipeline, a couple decent-solid positional assets).

 

Alderson's a pretty savvy guy when it comes to things like this, and I imagine that he'll let most teams know that if they don't meet his price, that he'll simply wait until mid-season. I tend to think that someone may pony up enough - there's enough teams out there searching for 3rd basemen this off-season and the value of Wright is high right now since he can void the 2013 option if he is dealt, which Wright will likely try to use to steer himself towards a situation that he likes.

 

One darkhorse I wouldn't rule out - the Red Sox. Youkilis may be forced to DH, and while Wright isn't a good defensive player, it might be a risk they are willing to take. I could also see the Tigers get aggressive in this, and the Rockies seem like a team that might ponder it becaue Arenado is so far away and Stewart is such a big question mark. Of course, the Angels will probably be in on it as well. Whoever doesn't land Aramis may push harder for David Wright.

 

I have my doubts on how aggressive Theo would be in pushing for Wright, but I imagine we'd be in it. On a personal preference note, I'd rather push hard for Headley and see if the Padres would budge than push hard on Wright.

[NonProfitCow]

Why did they sour on Wright? Injuries?

 

Injuries, a perceived decline in performance and if I remember correctly, some sort of "clutchiness" issue in the playoffs. Plus, they equate him to the dismal post-NLCS run they have been on. Wright and Reyes are the faces of this franchise and every year there is talk about trading one or both and moving on or trying to hold it together. I also think there are personality issues, maybe he's said some things they think make him look weak. Not sure exactly.

Perceived?

Yes. That ballpark is AIDS to RH batters. If he's healthy he's hitting.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Why did they sour on Wright? Injuries?

 

Injuries, a perceived decline in performance and if I remember correctly, some sort of "clutchiness" issue in the playoffs. Plus, they equate him to the dismal post-NLCS run they have been on. Wright and Reyes are the faces of this franchise and every year there is talk about trading one or both and moving on or trying to hold it together. I also think there are personality issues, maybe he's said some things they think make him look weak. Not sure exactly.

Perceived?

Yes. That ballpark is AIDS to RH batters. If he's healthy he's hitting.

 

The ballpark didn't make him go from a consistent 22% swinging at pitches outside the zone to to 28% the last two years. It didn't make his contact on swing percentage be the three lowest seasons of his career the last three years. It didn't make his line drive percentage plummet 7 percentage points after 2009.

 

It hasn't all been ballpark. There's real degradation of skills here.

[Backtobanks]

I guess we might have a different opinion on what the Mets could get for him, but with teams like the Tigers, Angels, and Cubs looking for 3B, I can't believe the price isn't going to be pretty high.

[Guest]

The ballpark didn't make him go from a consistent 22% swinging at pitches outside the zone to to 28% the last two years.

 

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around.

[Geech]

Trade Wilkin for Wright. We probably only have Wilkin for another year anyway, and with McLeod on board we'll be dealing from a position of relative strength.

[NonProfitCow]

The ballpark didn't make him go from a consistent 22% swinging at pitches outside the zone to to 28% the last two years. It didn't make his contact on swing percentage be the three lowest seasons of his career the last three years. It didn't make his line drive percentage plummet 7 percentage points after 2009.

 

It hasn't all been ballpark. There's real degradation of skills here.

Where does all that stand in relation to the rest of the league?

[RynoRules]

•Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com gets the impression that the Mets' payroll could dip below $100MM on Opening Day (Twitter link). The Mets have had a payroll of at least $100MM every season since 2004.

[jersey cubs fan]

The ballpark didn't make him go from a consistent 22% swinging at pitches outside the zone to to 28% the last two years. It didn't make his contact on swing percentage be the three lowest seasons of his career the last three years. It didn't make his line drive percentage plummet 7 percentage points after 2009.

 

It hasn't all been ballpark. There's real degradation of skills here.

 

The ballpark may have contributed to that. There's been all sorts of talk about how frustrated he's been at the ballpark and how it has translated to a more aggressive approach, often on the road when he's in more friendly parks.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The ballpark may have contributed to that. There's been all sorts of talk about how frustrated he's been at the ballpark and how it has translated to a more aggressive approach, often on the road when he's in more friendly parks.

 

I've heard that too. I have no idea if it's true or of it's just athlete mental rationalization.

[sneakypower]

he's had 3 straight -10 years at third, mostly due to a severe decrease in range; can he not field his position anymore?

 

i somewhat suspect Headley to be our 3B next year, which would be great