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Thought this would be worth having in one place. Compiled from a few sources, but most of the credit goes to the excellent http://www.bleachernation.com.

 

 

Oct. 29-Nov. 2: This is the five-day period during which teams can exclusively negotiate with their own free agents.

 

Oct. 31: Deadline for all team/player/mutual options. Cubs have Dempster ($14 million player), Samardzija ($3 million team, still under team-control if they don't pick it up), and Ramirez (mutual that almost certainly won't be picked up)

 

Nov. 19: Roster deadline for minor leaguers to be added to 40-man roster before Rule 5 Draft.

 

Nov. 23: The deadline for offering arbitration to free agents, which is required for getting draft pick compensation from them if they leave. Decisions for the Cubs include Ramirez, Pena and possibly Ryan Dempster. Any compensation-level free agent signed before this day gets the compensation automatically, which will significantly slow down the pace of mid-level signings.

 

Dec. 7: The deadline for free agents to accept arbitration. I don't think this will affect the Cubs, but I guess it isn't completely impossible that Pena or Ramirez could try for a quick, one-year payday.

 

Dec. 5 & 8: Rule-five draft. The 40-man roster must be set by the fifth, the actual draft is on the eighth. Someone who knows the Cubs' minor leagues better than me will know if we have any major decisions that day.

 

Dec. 12: The deadline to tender contracts to arbitration-eligible, pre-FA players. Teams will opt to relinquish their rights to some of these players and let them become free agents, aka non-tender them. The Cubs' most likely non-tender is Koyie Hill, but other arbitration-eligibles include Samardzija (if they don't pick up his option), Garza, Castro, DeWitt, Baker, Barney, and Soto.

 

Feb. 13: Pitchers and catchers report

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Wow only 5 days until free agency is wide-open? Sweet.

 

Thought it was like 10 or 15 days after the WS. Glad it isn't!

Is it really? Damn, I was expecting Theo and Jed/etc. to have awhile to consider all their options. I know it takes a bit before people sign, but they must have been talking about our situation for awhile now. I don't know how I forget the dates every year despite being obsessed with it.

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The date that is missing there is the date at which minor league players have to be put on the 40 man or left open to the rule 5 draft. Anyone know what that date is this year?
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The date that is missing there is the date at which minor league players have to be put on the 40 man or left open to the rule 5 draft. Anyone know what that date is this year?

 

It's on there. Dec. 5

huh...I thought the rostering deadline was normally earlier than that to give teams a chance to do more review before the draft.

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The date that is missing there is the date at which minor league players have to be put on the 40 man or left open to the rule 5 draft. Anyone know what that date is this year?

 

It's on there. Dec. 5

huh...I thought the rostering deadline was normally earlier than that to give teams a chance to do more review before the draft.

 

Hmm, not sure.

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2003/01/important-transaction-dates_03.html

 

I don't know what the Nov. 19 one means. Maybe that's the deadline for most players.

 

November 19, 2011

Deadline day for clubs to file reserve lists for Major League club and all Minor League levels.

 

December 1, 2011

Last date to request outright waivers to assign a player before Rule 5 draft.

 

December 5, 2011

Last date (5 p.m. ET) to send a player outright to minors before Rule 5 draft.

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Wait, Free agency would start after Nov. 23 right? I'm confused.

 

If you sign a player before Nov. 23, you have to give his team whatever compensation is due, whether they intended to offer him arbitration or not.

 

You can sign players earlier than that. Examples would be stupid teams who don't care, players who are definitely going to be offered, or players who don't require compensation to be given up by the signing team.

 

Free agency formally begins Nov. 3, six days after the World Series ends. It used to start much later than that, but they moved it up this year. And players don't have to formally file anymore, they just become free agents.

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Wait, Free agency would start after Nov. 23 right? I'm confused.

 

If you sign a player before Nov. 23, you have to give his team whatever compensation is due, whether they intended to offer him arbitration or not.

 

You can sign players earlier than that. Examples would be stupid teams who don't care, players who are definitely going to be offered, or players who don't require compensation to be given up by the signing team.

 

Free agency formally begins Nov. 3, six days after the World Series ends. It used to start much later than that, but they moved it up this year. And players don't have to formally file anymore, they just become free agents.

Thank you.

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The date that is missing there is the date at which minor league players have to be put on the 40 man or left open to the rule 5 draft. Anyone know what that date is this year?

 

It's on there. Dec. 5

huh...I thought the rostering deadline was normally earlier than that to give teams a chance to do more review before the draft.

 

Hmm, not sure.

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2003/01/important-transaction-dates_03.html

 

I don't know what the Nov. 19 one means. Maybe that's the deadline for most players.

 

November 19, 2011

Deadline day for clubs to file reserve lists for Major League club and all Minor League levels.

 

December 1, 2011

Last date to request outright waivers to assign a player before Rule 5 draft.

 

December 5, 2011

Last date (5 p.m. ET) to send a player outright to minors before Rule 5 draft.

yeah, that's more like it.

 

If the Cubs want to protect someone like Szczur from the draft, he has to be rostered by 11/19.

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Major League Baseball and the Players' Association announced earlier this evening that the start of the free agency period will be delayed by 24 hours, and will officially begin at 12:01am ET on Sunday, October 30th. All team/player/mutual option decisions are due by 11:59pm ET on Monday, October 31st. Free agents will be able to sign contracts with new teams starting at 12:01am ET on Thursday, November 3rd. The MLBPA will release a full list of free agents on Sunday, but here is our Free Agent Tracker so you don't have to wait.

 

Here are some other important offseason dates, courtesy of MLB.com...

 

* Nov. 23rd: Last day for clubs to offer salary arbitration to Type-A or B free agents in order to receive draft pick compensation. Deadline is midnight ET. Here are the reversed-engineered Elias rankings.

* Dec. 7th: Last day for free agents to accept arbitration, if offered. Deadline is midnight ET.

* Dec. 5th-8th: Winter meetings in Dallas.

* Dec. 12th: Deadline to tender contracts to players with less than six years of service time. Our Arbitration Eligibles series will give you an idea of which players are non-tender candidates.

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Wait, Free agency would start after Nov. 23 right? I'm confused.

 

If you sign a player before Nov. 23, you have to give his team whatever compensation is due, whether they intended to offer him arbitration or not.

 

You can sign players earlier than that. Examples would be stupid teams who don't care, players who are definitely going to be offered, or players who don't require compensation to be given up by the signing team.

 

Free agency formally begins Nov. 3, six days after the World Series ends. It used to start much later than that, but they moved it up this year. And players don't have to formally file anymore, they just become free agents.

 

So what used to happen if a player was up for free agency but decided not to file?

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Wait, Free agency would start after Nov. 23 right? I'm confused.

 

If you sign a player before Nov. 23, you have to give his team whatever compensation is due, whether they intended to offer him arbitration or not.

 

You can sign players earlier than that. Examples would be stupid teams who don't care, players who are definitely going to be offered, or players who don't require compensation to be given up by the signing team.

 

Free agency formally begins Nov. 3, six days after the World Series ends. It used to start much later than that, but they moved it up this year. And players don't have to formally file anymore, they just become free agents.

 

So what used to happen if a player was up for free agency but decided not to file?

 

I looked at a couple sites, and the assumption is that it would work the same as a player with 3-6 years experience. The player could try to work out either a contract or go to arbitration with his current team, and the current team could non-tender him if they wished. Since all those options are still present after becoming a free agent (the team can decline to offer arbitration, they can work out a contract, or the player can accept arbitration if it's offered) they took away the paperwork of having to formally file.

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